Prospect Info: Marlies & Prospect Discussion

[Leaf Rocket]

On the road with Fraser Minten: Lessons, trades and the path back to the Maple Leafs

For three days, The Athletic followed Fraser Minten during games as he plotted his return to the Maple Leafs after a turbulent season.

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“Mints, you taking the morning skate today?” Malhotra asked.


“It’s optional,” Minten replied, showing his hand. “Optional means optional, right?”


Minten will never forget Malhotra’s stone-cold look.


“Kampfer, you taking the optional?” Malhotra asked.


“Yes,” Kampf replied.


“Mints, you taking the optional?” Malhotra asked again, allowing little margin for error.


Minten learned for at least the first three years of his NHL career, there is no option for an optional morning skate.

 

[stickty111]

Is Niemela really that far away we can't even afford him a look up here? With all the injuries to all of our RHD it’d be interesting to see what we’ve got in the guy we drafted almost 4 years ago now.

These guys baby their prospects too much unless their name was Rasmus Sandin.

 

[darrylsittler27]

We have 9 picks this year.

We have no seconds we are in danger of trading a first and no real picks next year. A 3rd rounder only has a 17 per cent chance of ever playing like J Leivo. We need firsts and seconds to rebuild that defense.

They are preparing him for the 2C role with the Leafs.

What in the playoffs this year or some day?

 

[Malachi Crunch]

On the road with Fraser Minten: Lessons, trades and the path back to the Maple Leafs

For three days, The Athletic followed Fraser Minten during games as he plotted his return to the Maple Leafs after a turbulent season.

theathletic.com

My respect for Malholtra just tripled.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

These guys baby their prospects too much unless their name was Rasmus Sandin.

They belong in the minors.

 

[Dekes For Days]

We have no seconds we are in danger of trading a first and no real picks next year.

2nd is the only pick we're missing this year, and we have two extra 5ths and a 7th. We have 5 picks next year, and a good group of prospects.
It's debatable whether this year's team is worth investing a 1st into, but it's not like it would destroy us moving forward.

 

[ULF_55]

We have 9 picks this year.

I'm curious about the 2024 or 2025, 5th. rounder from Chicago.

Who get's it?

 

[darrylsittler27]

2nd is the only pick we're missing this year, and we have two extra 5ths and a 7th. We have 5 picks next year, and a good group of prospects.
It's debatable whether this year's team is worth investing a 1st into, but it's not like it would destroy us moving forward.

We don't have any real picks next year and our defense has Niemela. It's an organizational shortcoming.

 

[Dekes For Days]

I'm curious about the 2024 or 2025, 5th. rounder from Chicago.
Who get's it?
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I'm pretty sure Calgary is getting their own 5th round pick back (Calgary -> Chicago -> Vancouver -> Calgary). And we're getting Chicago's 5th round pick.

We don't have any real picks next year and our defense has Niemela. It's an organizational shortcoming.

All picks are "real". Niemela is a good prospect. A competitive team's prospect pool is not going to be dominant in all positions.
We don't need to abandon improving the NHL team in order to refocus our drafting on defense.

 

[DarkKnight]

Bunkis podcast had former scout Jason Bukala on, and he was raving about Cowan. He had him 40th last year, so higher than most, but said he'd slot him at 7 this year. He said he's looks "like a modern day Darcy Tucker" for the Leafs, "relentless", called him "untouchable". Minten he feels is 2.5 center, which is what most of us see.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Bunkis podcast had former scout Jason Bukala on, and he was raving about Cowan. He had him 40th last year, so higher than most, but said he'd slot him at 7 this year. He said he's looks "like a modern day Darcy Tucker" for the Leafs, "relentless", called him "untouchable". Minten he feels is 2.5 center, which is what most of us see.

That's an interesting term 2.5 centre, so a nice 3C.

 

[ULF_55]

That's an interesting term 2.5 centre, so a nice 3C.

Cowan-Minten-Nylander in 2 years?

 

[kk87]

That's an interesting term 2.5 centre, so a nice 3C.

To me, 3C feels like Minten's ceiling - I think we'd do really well for him to develop into a long-term 3C option

 

[WTFMAN99]

To me, 3C feels like Minten's ceiling - I think we'd do really well for him to develop into a long-term 3C option

I actually feel like his development wouldn't be all that stunted by playing 4C next year either.

 

[darrylsittler27]

I'm pretty sure Calgary is getting their own 5th round pick back (Calgary -> Chicago -> Vancouver -> Calgary). And we're getting Chicago's 5th round pick.

All picks are "real". Niemela is a good prospect. A competitive team's prospect pool is not going to be dominant in all positions.
We don't need to abandon improving the NHL team in order to refocus our drafting on defense.

Niemela is it. He maybe a 3rd pairing. The rest are a stretch. If we can get a guy with term maybe you trade the first but not for a rental. We definitely need a younger defense. Maybe it can be fixed in ufa but from what I see no one gives away Top 3 RHD. We have thrown away too many picks and now we pay for that.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Niemela is it.

Chadwick has had an impressive year too. The pool isn't as bad as some like to think.
We shouldn't throw away the 1st, but that doesn't mean there are no scenarios where we should use it.

 

[darrylsittler27]

Chadwick has had an impressive year too. The pool isn't as bad as some like to think.
We shouldn't throw away the 1st, but that doesn't mean there are no scenarios where we should use it.

I reserve judgement on Chadwick, he is 18. In the immediate future we have Niemela with an aging defense. If we trade that first it has to be for term.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Has anyone gotten views in on Chadwick? I've gotten to see Cowan a bit with watching games on the TV, the odd AHL game but some prospects we have I am clueless on.

Is he Nielsen or is he exciting?

 

[Fogelhund]

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[Dekes For Days]

I reserve judgement on Chadwick, he is 18. In the immediate future we have Niemela with an aging defense. If we trade that first it has to be for term.

We have other D prospects than just Niemela. Niemela is just the most likely to make it.
Our D signed/controlled beyond this year - Rielly, McCabe, Liljegren, Benoit, and Timmins - are all age 24-30. That's not old.
By the logic that Chadwick is too young to matter, then I'm not sure how an even younger D drafted next draft would matter.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

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That games about to start!

 

[horner]

We have other D prospects than just Niemela. Niemela is just the most likely to make it.
Our D signed/controlled beyond this year - Rielly, McCabe, Liljegren, Benoit, and Timmins - are all age 24-30. That's not old.
By the logic that Chadwick is too young to matter, then I'm not sure how an even younger D drafted next draft would matter.

I like Rifai and Kokkonen

 

[horner]

We don't have any real picks next year and our defense has Niemela. It's an organizational shortcoming.

Treliving will change that when he joined the Leafs.
He mentioned that Centerman and Defenseman would be a priority.
That is why I believe Minten is going know where.

 

[baton elevated]

Once JT comes off the books Tre can go hunting for bear. We can add 2 decent players for $11M

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

Once JT comes off the books Tre can go hunting for bear. We can add 2 decent players for $11M

Spend that money loading up on Defense. Between Knies, Robertson, Holmberg, Cowan, Minten, Greb, Tverberg, we have enough young forwards to fill out the roster in the next few years.