HuGort
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Habs might able to do something involving Petry. Along with one their young defensemen?
Value of: Mark Scheifele for a #1 defenseman
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Ooof, c'mon guys - I'm hardly a Scheifele-stan, I think the guy is overrated by why on earth would the Jets entertain the thoughts of Brent Burns or Jeff Petry for a #1 center in his prime and with two good years of contract left? As if Burns straight up wasn't bad enough, the Jets have to take on $9.45 million left of Labanc's contract for a guy with 6 points this year? And unless the "young defenseman" is Alex Romanov...which I doubt it is...why on earth would the Jets deal Scheifele for Petry?
Scheifele will not fetch a Byram or Dobson-level stud with 10+ years of prime ahead of them but the Jets sure as hell aren't going to dump him for a mid-30's declining blueliner with $18-24 million left of cap hit to drag alog the next 3 seasons. Wanting to pivot and make a change does not mean they want to give you their #1 center for a declining salary issue. Unless you want to take Blake Wheeler too.
Scheifele will not fetch a Byram or Dobson-level stud with 10+ years of prime ahead of them but the Jets sure as hell aren't going to dump him for a mid-30's declining blueliner with $18-24 million left of cap hit to drag alog the next 3 seasons. Wanting to pivot and make a change does not mean they want to give you their #1 center for a declining salary issue. Unless you want to take Blake Wheeler too.
This would never happen, but how about:
Sheifele for Morgan Reily+picks.
Leafs then trade Mathews for a Kings Ransom.
Sheifele for Morgan Reily+picks.
Leafs then trade Mathews for a Kings Ransom.
SeanMoneyHands
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Petry is unfortunately on the decline. He's not the same without Weber.
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Yes Mark made it public last year that he wants to win now, the same goes for Wheeler.
He badly needs a change of scenery. His role has changed in Winnipeg since Dubouis has emerged this year.
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Wonder if the Flames could get him for Jusso Valimaki. Valimaki has been a bust so far but still has tons of potential as a top pairing dman. I think he can benefit from starting with a new team.
Monahan + Valimaki for Scheifele?
Monahan steps in as #2C to replace Marks shoes and Valimaki could emerge into a top 4 dman for them for many years.
Monahan + Valimaki for Scheifele?
Monahan steps in as #2C to replace Marks shoes and Valimaki could emerge into a top 4 dman for them for many years.
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Nothing wrong with having 2 good C's.
Alternatively, the Jets let go the entire coaching staff and get competent coaches that can install actual defensive structure.
The Jets trading Scheifele only makes sense for them if they get a return that makes it worthwhile.
With Monahan being a cap dump and Valimaki being an unneeded LD. You would need to start over with better and more valuable players.
Almost as bad as your Burns + take. Jfc man, the Jets need equivalent or greater VALUE in return. Not another cast off LHD and a boat anchor salary dump. If the Jets can't get a #1 RHD, it's got to be a a mix of top 6 fwd/top 4 RHD roster player, high end RHD/C prospect(s) and high picks. The Jets are not desperate to get rid of their #1C. As horrible as he's been this year defensively, he's still over a PPG (6 straight seasons) with one of the best value contracts in the league. Andrew Copp received a higher value at the TD than what you've been suggesting in this thread It's embarrassing.
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Looking at the Jones for Johansson trade, I'd look at teams with an abundance of good defensemen.
So... Maybe Carolina? I don't think the Jets could get Pesce though, unless they're ready to commit to DeAngelo and have a RHD prospect ready to make the jump (no idea what their prospect pool is like)
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Seth Jones for Ryan Johansen comes to mind, in about .2 seconds. Got to be more than that example
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This is not really true. Petry made his name and increased his value with Weber injured. That's really when Petry went from a average or below average top 4D to a legit top 4D and debatable top pairing guy. You got to watch the games and know the context to really know the truth. He gained more confidence with more ice time when Weber got hurt in 17/18 and never looked back.
Petry is a victim of drowning our on our roster this year with Ducharme like so many other players. If he was loosing his skating and was heavy for his height, I'd agree with you but this guy is still a very good skater and is lean for his height.
His role hasn't changed. I don't know if he needs a change of scenery. He needs a change in attitude and be more professional about his overall game.
Johansen wasn’t a 1C at the time, but did show glimpses of 1C potential.
Jones wasn’t a #1D at the time, but did show glimpses of #1D potential.
I think that makes it very different. Trading your best C or best D isn’t something most teams could do. And I don’t think any team in the league rn is in a situation like Nashville was when they traded Jones. He was also their third best RD at the time he was traded.
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Johansen had 63& 71 point seasons under his belt at the time, I believe he has kind of 1C status at the time
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If Mark was traded, I would sooner get picks & prospects then Petry. Petry would be hugely disappointing. IMO keep Mark until we see him with a new coach or trade for big haul of futures or trade him to a team who is in Win now mode who has upcoming prospect good top 4 D or top 6 centre in the next year or so. Last thing the Jets should is trade Mark for a guy like Petry.
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A true #1 D-man would be costly to acquire for the Jets. I saw that for years with the Avs. It was dumb luck to have Makar fall to the Avs (I wanted Sakic to draft Heiskanen, LOL). Total brilliance on Sakic’s part to acquire Toews for two seconds rounders. Girard from the Duchene trade and Manson at the TDL. Jets will have to be patient and build their D through the draft and then package it to get their target. Kinda like the Avs used Timmons, Helleson and Barron. One can never have enough quality D prospects.
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Kind of depends on the age of that D man, and his contract. Is Erik Karlson still a number one ? Not that this trade would ever happen, of course.
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IMO there is truly very few #1D in the NHL, not including past #1D who are on the decline or guys being played in the #1 spot but aren’t really a #1D.
Mark certainly isn’t returning a true #1D in his prime. EK isn’t a #1D at this stage. Personally I would sooner keep Mark and see him with a new coach, failing that trade him for a good futures return of picks & prospects…….no interest in a old declining Dman (not aiming that comment any specific player) who’s overpaid.
This post reminds me of all the leaf fans losing their mind when people said Tavares would be 3C on edm or pitts. I’d even be willing to guess you were one of them, yet here you are making silly claims
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