Value of: Mark Scheifele for a #1 defenseman

[CanadienShark]

Scheifele, a legit #1C, I would think he could easily get the Jets a much needed #1 dman no? What's your offers?

Maybe Scheifele for Brent Burns and Kevin Labanc?

Done lol.

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

Maybe but I wouldn’t bank on it. I mean is Blake Wheeler really that toxic or is Scheifele just an entitled, lazy player? I agree it’s not physical but I HATE Scheifele’s on ice body language and effort level. It’s like three years and two coaches of coasting around as the teams point totals drop each season while he cleans up counting stats on 5 minutes of PP time each game.

Still an attractive and valuable asset especially on the right team - the Jets need to move him this summer while his contract gives him +++ value. Wheeler’s contract is an impossible to move boat anchor. Get Scheifele out of the room and let PLD and KC lead the team.

So Laine was never the problem up there?

 

[Jerkbait]

Scheifele, a legit #1C, I would think he could easily get the Jets a much needed #1 dman no? What's your offers?

Maybe Scheifele for Brent Burns and Kevin Labanc?

While he a 1C on the Jets there are multiple teams he would be a 2C and even some he would be a 3C like Pittsburgh Edmonton Toronto etc. He has value but not 1 D value unless its a lower lower 1D on a crowded blue line. Names that come to mind would be burns Krug Klingberg provorov

 

[Huffer]

Scheifele has a great contract, puts up over a point per game for 5 years and could be 6 this year.

If he's traded, he'll require a good return. He's not getting less than what Canucks fans are asking for JT Miller for instance, even with Scheifele's defensive issues.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

So Laine was never the problem up there?

I don't think anyone ever thought Laine was "the problem" to be honest.

He was a winger - a position where the Jets had a couple of good ones under long term contracts (Ehlers, Connor), a pretty good one under a bad contract (Wheeler) coupled with a distinct need to get a #2 centre.

Thus the Laine for PLD trade.

This is why I don't want to trade Scheifele for a #1D if he could even get that. I want to see Scheifele turned around by a new coach and to run him and PLD as the top two centres. Jets would be fools to trade Scheifele without trying to fix his game first.

 

[AslanRH]

lol, might make sense for the Avs? Jet's would want Byram +, get out of here with that

The Avs would need to add to Girard, clearly. The only reason Girard is available is if the Avs believe Byram is back for good.

I think you will be hard pressed to find a Dman comparable to Byram with another ELC year remaining that would be offered for 2 years of Scheifele, much less with additional pieces attached.

I hope the Jets can find that kind of deal though, because the division is way more fun when they are in the mix.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

While he a 1C on the Jets there are multiple teams he would be a 2C and even some he would be a 3C like Pittsburgh Edmonton Toronto etc. He has value but not 1 D value unless its a lower lower 1D on a crowded blue line. Names that come to mind would be burns Krug Klingberg provorov

Well if I'm Chevy, I get on the phone with Arizona and find a way to get Jakob Chychrun even if they have to add picks. But I doubt Mark would be happy going to a basement team, the guy wants to win now.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

I think depending on how Calgary's offseason goes, they could make good partners with Winnipeg. Not sure you will get a bonafide #1D for 2 years of control of Scheifele, but Calgary has some depth and may need some offensive help.

Minny may also want to shed some cap uncertainty and bring in someone who has some short term security. They have some wonderful D.

I think the Jets should hunt down a #2D with some ceiling, and grab a bunch of assets to go with it. You won't find a young comparable true #1D.

 

[Snowman]

Well if I'm Chevy, I get on the phone with Arizona and find a way to get Jakob Chychrun even if they have to add picks. But I doubt Mark would be happy going to a basement team, the guy wants to win now.

The Jets have less than no need for LD, so that would hold no interest for the Jets.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

The Jets have less than no need for LD, so that would hold no interest for the Jets.

Chychrun can play the right side as well.

 

[Snowman]

Chychrun can play the right side as well.

So can lots of defenseman. It doesn't change the fact the he is a left shot defenseman and therefore not needed.

The Jets aren't going to trade Scheifele to add more depth to one of their deepest positions.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

So can lots of defenseman. It doesn't change the fact the he is a left shot defenseman and therefore not needed.

The Jets aren't going to trade Scheifele to add more depth to one of their deepest positions.

I agree, I wouldn't play him on his off side either, however I do think the value is good and the Jets could make other roster moves/adjustments to make it work. Not sure you find a better asset than Chychrun for Scheifele, especially with his contract.

Chychrun, DeMelo, Pionk, Morrissey is not a bad top 4 if the latter 2 play to their potential.

Is there someone in mind you would have as a preferable target?

 

[ManByng]

Columbus has been crying for a #1 centre since trading Ryan Johansen away but the problem with the OP’s proposal is that you aren’t getting Werenski in return! Won’t happen, and then the Jets have no # 1 centre, then what?

 

[Tahoeblue]

Pullock

 

[wintersej]

CBS did that moving Johansen for Jones. Nash had Dmen in the right side in Weber and Ellis to justify the move. CBS didn’t have another C of similar caliber.

Jones was a potential #1 that was on the bottom pair, but there was no certainty of him hitting his potential. A trade like that seems possible, but not for an established #1.

 

[Snowman]

I agree, I wouldn't play him on his off side either, however I do think the value is good and the Jets could make other roster moves/adjustments to make it work. Not sure you find a better asset than Chychrun for Scheifele, especially with his contract.

Chychrun, DeMelo, Pionk, Morrissey is not a bad top 4 if the latter 2 play to their potential.

Is there someone in mind you would have as a preferable target?

There would need to be a pretty decent add to Chychrun to get Scheifele. 3 years of an okay 2nd pairing defenseman doesn't get two years of a PPG 1C on a bargain contract.

I don't have a target in mind. I'm one of the Jet fans that would prefer to keep Scheifele and see how he does with new coaches and systems. PPG 1C's are just way too rare and hard to find.

 

[BB88]

Scheifele has a great contract, puts up over a point per game for 5 years and could be 6 this year.

If he's traded, he'll require a good return. He's not getting less than what Canucks fans are asking for JT Miller for instance, even with Scheifele's defensive issues.

I think the biggest issue is his reputation is taking a big hit.

Locker room concerns+ lazy play.
How many teams really want to pay top dollar for that?

Jt Miller is the exact opposite to that

 

[YP44]

XBOX deal:
Scheifele + Schmidt
for
Doughty + Vilardi

Not sure Scheifele would even fit in LA so total xbox move that does little to address actual needs

 

[I am Canadian]

Scheifele is paid like a fringe 1st liner/2nd line center yet puts up PPG. He would be an excellent addition at #2 C for a strong team with a #1 forward already.

I don't ever see a team like that dealing a 1st pairing defender for him though.

 

[Notabaguette]

Petry and Mailloux for Scheifele

 

[Lays]

NYR don't have surplus of #1D LD. Rangers have Lindgren and Miller on that side. Lindgren isn't bringing back Scheifele, and Jets would want more than Miller.

Jets would be very interested in both around a package. Not 1 for 1 but it wouldn’t take that much more than either player

 

[Lays]

Scheifele is paid like a fringe 1st liner/2nd line center yet puts up PPG. He would be an excellent addition at #2 C for a strong team with a #1 forward already.

I don't ever see a team like that dealing a 1st pairing defender for him though.

I’ve always liked Scheif but his play style has changed for the worse. Just because he puts up similar numbers to before doesn’t mean he’s the same player. I expect him to snap out of it with a fresh start or over time but look at guys like Panarin and Fox this season. Panarin is putting up the same numbers he has for NYR and Fox is over PPG right now but both are playing like a shadow of themselves right now because they aren’t playing as punctual or engaged as they usually are

 

[General Disarray]

. But I doubt Mark would be happy going to a basement team, the guy wants to win now.

Does he? Sure doesn't look like it

 

[Jerkbait]

Well if I'm Chevy, I get on the phone with Arizona and find a way to get Jakob Chychrun even if they have to add picks. But I doubt Mark would be happy going to a basement team, the guy wants to win now.

Agreed but don't think Arizona listens

 

[spaghtti]

Eric karlson might want a trade