Management Discussion | Pre-Season Approaching

[LordBacon]

I hope blueberry boi sees this and is proud of himself.
Turning an elite nhl team into the laughing stock for the last decade is truly amazing.

Keep selling your playoff dream, because thats all your terribly built team is capable of (at best).

 

[VanJack]

I hope blueberry boi sees this and is proud of himself.
Turning an elite nhl team into the laughing stock for the last decade is truly amazing.

Keep selling your playoff dream, because thats all your terribly built team is capable of (at best).

Benning's reign of error will plague this franchise for years into the future.....but the carnage doesn't happen without the enablement and performance of lackluster ownership.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

They shouldve brought back Jay Beagle

 

[andora]

Lol

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Benning's reign of error will plague this franchise for years into the future.....but the carnage doesn't happen without the enablement and performance of lackluster ownership.

It was crazy seeing how involved the owner was during that 2017-2021 stretch. Benning basically divulged how frequent talks were between him and Aquilini last November. Doesn't excuse Benning for all the moronic small level moves but there was massive pressures to make big splashes and making the team as competitive as possible.

 

[rypper]

 

[I Hart Conor Garland]

Doing nothing could have been fine. I definitely agree with something I heard Drance touch on today. You could have been convinced up until the Miller extension that they were being conservative and patient fixing Benning’s mess, but the Dickinson and Miller moves betray that and tell the true tale.

 

[andora]

What a savant

 

[VanJack]

Jeff Paterson is reporting that Boudreau and the Canucks braintrust might be reaching a 'fork in the road'.

Boudreau is an old-school coach who eschews new fangled analytics for good old fashioned motivation and fiddling with playing time. Whilst the Canucks head office types are harping on things like 'zone exits' and possession stats.

The first salvo was fired by Rutherford in the off-season, who said the Canucks might be one of the worst teams in the league in terms of 'zone exits'. And Boudreau fired back after the opening three-game losing streak, saying the team was 'mentally weak'. Ouch!

And in the last game the coach inexplicably benched Burroughs and Garland. While all the analytics numbers confirm that in terms of zone possession guys like Stillman, Aman and Joshua are getting buried alive. And then there's the plight of Rathbone. He needs to play or head back to the farm.

Unless the Canucks pull out of this nosedive in a hurry--the next change might be behind the bench. There's an underlying reason why they signed Colliton imo.

 

[Quinning]

I hope blueberry boi sees this and is proud of himself.
Turning an elite nhl team into the laughing stock for the last decade is truly amazing.

Keep selling your playoff dream, because thats all your terribly built team is capable of (at best).

We went from Gillis and Gilman, who were innovators of the game and the envy of every team, to a man who couldn't string five coherent words together.

 

[TruGr1t]

Jeff Paterson is reporting that Boudreau and the Canucks braintrust might be reaching a 'fork in the road'.

Boudreau is an old-school coach who eschews new fangled analytics for good old fashioned motivation and fiddling with playing time. Whilst the Canucks head office types are harping on things like 'zone exits' and possession stats.

The first salvo was fired by Rutherford in the off-season, who said the Canucks might be one of the worst teams in the league in terms of 'zone exits'. And Boudreau fired back after the opening three-game losing streak, saying the team was 'mentally weak'. Ouch!

And in the last game the coach inexplicably benched Burroughs and Garland. While all the analytics numbers confirm that in terms of zone possession guys like Stillman, Aman and Joshua are getting buried alive. And then there's the plight of Rathbone. He needs to play or head back to the farm.

Unless the Canucks pull out of this nosedive in a hurry--the next change might be behind the bench. There's an underlying reason why they signed Colliton imo.

Didn’t we just get that report like an hour ago that Rutherford was going around the GM meetings telling everyone we aren’t making a coaching change?

 

[Hansen]

Unless you have a hole in one hire lined up (Gronborg?) I dont think you make the change now

 

[Quinning]

Boudreau has always been the clean up guy that takes the shit pile the other guy left and turns it into gold for 1 season.

If it doesn't happen then, he quickly wears out his welcome.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Boudreau has always been the clean up guy that takes the shit pile the other guy left and turns it into gold for 1 season.

If it doesn't happen then, he quickly wears out his welcome.

False.

He had three 100+ point seasons in Washington..Three 100+ point seasons in Anaheim..and two 100+ seasons in Minnesota.

 

[sandwichbird2023]

this start might be good for the long term direction of the team

either they will absolutely go off the rails and we will get a real sense of if this management team has a real strategy or if they're just going day to day and reacting to wins and losses;

or they will turn it around but have the constant shadow of this start, rather than some dumb "we started the year 6-0!!" streak that creates a linger sentiment of "optimism" based on dismissing underlying, fundamental problems and extrapolating a stretch of games where things simply went right vs wrong (ie. the bubble playoffs)

Feels like we've been saying that for years! Ever since the "North division" season at least, fans are always saying "at least this slow start will force management to sell at the deadline, change up the core, rebuild, etc. We may have new people in management but somehow everything feels the same.
I would be shocked if the team doesn't give Bo a retirement contract just to lock in our core for the next 7 years, because doubling down is what this franchise do best.

 

[I Hart Conor Garland]

False.

He had three 100+ point seasons in Washington..Three 100+ point seasons in Anaheim..and two 100+ seasons in Minnesota.

Ok now do Bruce’s playoff success

 

[TruGr1t]

Ok now do Bruce’s playoff success

Are you really all that worried about his success in the playoffs at this very moment?

 

[Vector]

I don’t expect a coaching change until at least 20ish games. Even then the record has to be terrible and they’ll just promote Yeo as an intern. There’s a possibility they’d bring on Brunette if the rumours are true and feel he won’t be available in the summer. I don’t think ownership would want to pay 3 head coaches at the same team even if it’s just for one season.

 

[I Hart Conor Garland]

Are you really all that worried about his success in the playoffs at this very moment?

I don’t expect relevance anytime in the 2020s.

 

[Turin]

If Rutherford has a big say I wouldn’t count on a coaching change being the first move, unless a trade just isn’t out there at all.

 

[TruGr1t]

 

[geebaan]

As he shouldn’t tbh.

 

[Cancuks]

Changing the coach will do absolutely nothing. The best move for a shakeup right now is trading Horvat and his buddy Pearson too. It sends a message that the team needs better leadership and the players need to be held accountable. I wouldn't give anyone the C for the rest of the season. Let someone step up and earn it. If no one does then you clean house in the offseason.

 

[Coffee]

Start to find out if Pettersson will sign or not. If things point towards no, then Trade him to San Jose or something for a massive haul.

It’s foolish not to least somewhat prepare and be ready to live with Pettersson walking for nothing. I don’t care if it’s new management. This franchise has not earned our trust yet.

I know there’s two years left, but we need to be ready upon ready to recover from the attack of Jim Benning

 

[TruGr1t]

Not sure if the full IMac/Rutherford piece was posted somewhere around here: Rutherford on Canucks' historic string of collapses: 'Too much of giving the game back'

This stands out to me:

“But I'm not totally surprised at what's happening. I've talked about this since I came to Vancouver and what I've seen with his team: We have good players here, but how do you become a winning team? It's about playing the game the right way and playing with good habits.”​

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In this respect, Rutherford said he saw progress in Columbus, where the Canucks took better care of the puck and didn’t collapse after losing their lead. They dominated late in the third period despite playing their second road game in 24 hours.​

He's still talking about "good habits", and a bunch of guys in their mid-to-late 20s learning how to win.