Major Changes

[YP44]

A premier PP QB would take a ton of heat off of Doughty, who doesn't have the cannon to get shots through. It seems to be the position King fans forget about, yah Doughty is great but for a defense first team that is brutal on the PP if you were to have a MacInnis-Pronger combo back there on D the Kings would be deadly. It also pushes talent down to the 2nd PP unit which should increase numbers. Big Buff would also be interesting, basically anybody with a big shot from the point would really help the Kings out. You can only do the fake shot, head fake, shoot and have it blocked because the lane is closed thing so many times. How about adding somebody who can fire it through when the puck hits their stick?

That could be Wideman.

 

[Bandit]

A premier PP QB would take a ton of heat off of Doughty, who doesn't have the cannon to get shots through. It seems to be the position King fans forget about, yah Doughty is great but for a defense first team that is brutal on the PP if you were to have a MacInnis-Pronger combo back there on D the Kings would be deadly. It also pushes talent down to the 2nd PP unit which should increase numbers. Big Buff would also be interesting, basically anybody with a big shot from the point would really help the Kings out. You can only do the fake shot, head fake, shoot and have it blocked because the lane is closed thing so many times. How about adding somebody who can fire it through when the puck hits their stick?

Or the coaches could introduce Doughty to this one amazing secret that you won't believe!

wrist shot.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Thank you for this- for some reason, as I've said before, Richards seems to be the lightning rod although the statistics seem to point out that's there's really been no change in his game.

Richards has 28 assists this year, which not only currently leads the team, but is already the most assists in his 3 years with the Kings. He's averaging more points per game this year than in any of the 3 years he's been with the Kings, although only a few percentage points more than last year.

There's all that, but then the Kings are also struggling to score goals at the same time, and Richards is part of that with 7 goals in 52 games.

I don't know if it's accurate or not, but the amount of times he's been lazy with the puck also seems to be more this year. He's been stripped of the puck in the defensive zone a few too many times.

There's also the way he manages to fumble the puck a lot, especially at ES(although I find him to be a quite dynamic player at the point on the PP). That's the crazy thing about Richards though; he's an ugly hockey player. He's not all that fast, he's fairly small, and he's not really all that talented compared to his peers, but he does come up with points, finds himself in winning situations, and finds a way to do something in most big moments.

I would say he's a bit of a lightning rod because he was the guy that the Kings acquired that put them on the map. As soon as they got him, the Kings went from rebuilding team, to a team that was now here. He's sort of the fulcrum of the team. Quick is the most important player when the chips are down. Kopitar and Doughty are the most talented. Brown is the captain. Carter is the best goal scorer. Richards is like the duct tape that holds it all together. It's just that it's a shoddy looking tape job, but in the end it does the job.

 

[Reclamation Project]

We could split hairs all day. Fact is EVERYONE except Carter and King are having down years.

 

[redcard]

Would have worked if Greene wasn't so injury riddled and out indefinitely with a concussion at the moment.

Green's far more injury prone than Greene though. Green's played more than 75 games once in 8 years, while Greene's done it 4 times in the same span. Green's had concussion and groin problems himself so despite the fact that he'd certainly help our goal scoring and powerplay it'd be better shipping off assets like Greene for someone more durable.




Green

 

[KingKopitar11*]

How could you say that Curry is better Androl..? Androl is the best and most beautiful they've had.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Green's far more injury prone than Greene though. Green's played more than 75 games once in 8 years, while Greene's done it 4 times in the same span. Green's had concussion and groin problems himself so despite the fact that he'd certainly help our goal scoring and powerplay it'd be better shipping off assets like Greene for someone more durable.




Green

Greene's value would also be at a low point right now, so you probably aren't going to get to be too picky in a situation like that. Greene hasn't been able to stay healthy since the 2012 playoffs. He's played in 30 of a possible 100 regular season games since the lockout, and is currently hurt. Plus he's a UFA in July.

 

[Reclamation Project]

How could you say that Curry is better Androl..? Androl is the best and most beautiful they've had.

A certain delusional poster that still uses Windows XP would disagree. Come at me brotato!!!

 

[KingKopitar11*]

A certain delusional poster that still uses Windows XP would disagree. Come at me brotato!!!

Lol. Seriously Androl was stunning

And Fraser is still a king, nothing is changed, he's the piece .

 

[Kurrilino]

Until Dean and Sutter lose their hardon for grinders, nothing will change.

Hell Crosby would have issues putting up 80pts in this system.

I try to tell the guys since 4 years.
If 2 defenders pin you against the board it doesn't matter you are Crosby or Ovechkin. You simple and plain don't score...

It's the system itself that forbids goal scoring.
As long as Sutter and Lombardi are here no trade is doing anything.

Enter the zone at the boards, dump into the corner, boardbattle, pass back to blue line, shoot into the crowd in front of the goal or the arena roof, turnover, penalty.....

This is what we get the next years and i predict ZERO cups in near future

 

[Live in the Now]

I was at the game tonight and we didn't play that bad...a few pucks mishandled and some bad penalties taken but we had our chances.

This team is full of talent. Too many of you guys don't have the patience to last a season. I guess that's the principal reason boards like this exist.

I've been here 8 years, which is a lot longer than most of the people here. I have plenty of patience, I do not have a tolerance level for watching a good team play like crap regularly. There are plenty of legitimate complaints.

 

[Muzzinga]

Green would fit the Kings MO perfectly. Take as many needless minor penalties as possible

 

[Face Wash]

We could split hairs all day. Fact is EVERYONE except Carter and King are having down years.

Prior to this one month bad stretch The Kings were 25-8-4 and Kevin Weekes on NHL Network had them #2 in the Power Rankings saying they had NO HOLES. I'm as big a critic of how things have been going as anyone but I don't agree with your assessment.

• Martinez is not having a down year, he doesn't play enough in fact.
• Nolan is not having a down year.
• Williams might be streaky but he's given you the goals you'd expect from him (more than can be said for his linemate Mr. Brown).
• Toffoli is young, young players have consistency issues, but he's not had a bad year he just won't win the Calder, Big Deal.
• Our Goaltenders are clearly not having down years.
• For what you ask Stoll to do, he's not having a down year at all

Up until the last month, there would be very few guys you would say were having down "years". They're in a deep slump and the coach isn't doing enough to help them get out of it while the GMs hands are pretty much tied.

There are guys on this team that don't belong on it IMO, but you have to have really high expectations of a guy like Trevor "Stonehands" Lewis to say he's having a down year. He's having his usual forecheck, kill penalties but don't do much else kind of a year.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Prior to this one month bad stretch The Kings were 25-8-4 and Kevin Weekes on NHL Network had them #2 in the Power Rankings saying they had NO HOLES. I'm as big a critic of how things have been going as anyone but I don't agree with that assessment.

• Martinez is not having a down year, he doesn't play enough in fact.
• Nolan is not having a down year.
• Williams might be streaky but he's given you the goals you'd expect from him (more than can be said for his linemate Mr. Brown).
• Toffoli is young, young players have consistency issues, but he's not had a bad year he just won't win the Calder, Big Deal.
• Our Goaltenders are clearly not having down years.
• For what you ask Stoll to do, he's not having a down year at all

Up until the last month, there would be very few guys you would say were having down "years". They're in a deep slump and the coach isn't doing enough to help them get out of it while the GMs hands are pretty much tied.

There are guys on this team that don't belong on it IMO, but you have to have really high expectations of a guy like Trevor "Stonehands" Lewis to say he's having a down year. He's having his usual forecheck, kill penalties but don't do much else kind of a year.

The players I'm talking about are the ones we expect offense out of and they aren't producing. Everyone has a role and most aren't fulfilling it.

Martinez would have a better year if he had a stable role, as he should.

Nolan is an exception I forgot. I really love how he's developed.

Williams is playing like he normally does. His defense and forecheck is awesome, but the point aren't there. His offense is down.

Toffoli is just like Martinez. Play him on the fourth line and don't expect much. Again, I wouldn't point blame on 21 year old kid.

I thought we'd all agree Quick is good as ever. Didn't think I needed to put his name alongside Carter and King.

Stoll is garbage.

I've never blamed Trevor Lewis for anything. I don't need to vent on a bottom six energy player who makes six figures.

I'm talking about established players that aren't producing points.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I try to tell the guys since 4 years.
If 2 defenders pin you against the board it doesn't matter you are Crosby or Ovechkin. You simple and plain don't score...

It's the system itself that forbids goal scoring.
As long as Sutter and Lombardi are here no trade is doing anything.

Enter the zone at the boards, dump into the corner, boardbattle, pass back to blue line, shoot into the crowd in front of the goal or the arena roof, turnover, penalty.....

This is what we get the next years and i predict ZERO cups in near future

While I don't fully disagree, there's a reason teams like Boston are just fine employing roughly the same system. The grind-and-cycle mentality in and of itself isn't inherently bad and boring, but when EVERYTHING becomes a perimeter play, it is. The cycle is great to set up offensive plays, but you can't stay on the boards/blueline forever. Once you have everyone in the zone and set up, you gotta try cross-crease passes, get the puck to the high slot or another scoring area, and yes, get to the net. Right now, the only play is corner-to-point to shot and no rebound because that's what teams give us, and that's what they will continue to give us because we don't keep them honest. Did you notice the Ducks on the PP trying cross ice and cross crease passes even when our sticks were in the lane? I'm not saying you have to throw the puck away like that constantly, but if you NEVER do it, the opposing D has life easy.

It expends energy, but this team has the size and fortitude to TAKE ice--we just haven't seen it in a while.

 

[Pucknut50]

How could you say that Curry is better Androl..? Androl is the best and most beautiful they've had.

I have met both and its Heidi hands down not even close. Heidi loves the Kings and the fans. Curry is a Angel fan and just doing the Kings gig until Baseball season starts.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Angels FTL.

 

[no name]

A premier PP QB would take a ton of heat off of Doughty, who doesn't have the cannon to get shots through. It seems to be the position King fans forget about, yah Doughty is great but for a defense first team that is brutal on the PP if you were to have a MacInnis-Pronger combo back there on D the Kings would be deadly. It also pushes talent down to the 2nd PP unit which should increase numbers. Big Buff would also be interesting, basically anybody with a big shot from the point would really help the Kings out. You can only do the fake shot, head fake, shoot and have it blocked because the lane is closed thing so many times. How about adding somebody who can fire it through when the puck hits their stick?

MR was amongst the best PP qb in hockey during his time in Philly and he looks the the only one with a clue on the blue line on the five on three. He's got a really good shot too. On top of that, he was superb manning the point on the Kings for the first month he was here until they decided they wanted to take Dd off the second and put him on the first.

 

[Butch 19]

According to LeBrun, the Caps have entertained the thought of moving Mike Green and are seeking a big, stay-at-home dman. Greene and other assets for Mike Green would make a lot of sense and could help the Kings' PP by adding a true QB on the point.

Bob Miller would appreciate this ^^^^

 

[KingsFan7824]

Everyone has a role and most aren't fulfilling it.

Most is a strong word.

Williams is on pace for 22 goals, which is what he usually does for the Kings. He's been in the 55-60 point range, but is on pace for 46. Kopitar is on pace for 22 goals, which would be his lowest in a full year since his rookie year. He's on pace for 65 points, which is also a good 10 points below what you would expect.

It's Brown. On pace for 16 goals, and 26 points. Brown has usually been around 25 goals, and 55 points. That's 10 fewer goals, and 30 fewer points. He is the one not fulfilling his role. A guy like Frattin hasn't been good either, but he's not the long time captain with a fat new contract.

Brown being this unproductive has screwed everything up. It makes what King has done worth just enough for the Kings to survive, instead of giving them 2 full lines. It's caused the #1 line to be an increasing juggling act. The Kings don't have the cap room for Brown to be this unproductive. They don't have the talent on the rest of the roster for Brown to be this unproductive.

 

[YP44]

MR was amongst the best PP qb in hockey during his time in Philly and he looks the the only one with a clue on the blue line on the five on three. He's got a really good shot too. On top of that, he was superb manning the point on the Kings for the first month he was here until they decided they wanted to take Dd off the second and put him on the first.

I like Richards running the show at the point on the PP. We have enough players that on paper our PP should have no issues.

 

[bmr]

Most is a strong word.

Williams is on pace for 22 goals, which is what he usually does for the Kings. He's been in the 55-60 point range, but is on pace for 46. Kopitar is on pace for 22 goals, which would be his lowest in a full year since his rookie year. He's on pace for 65 points, which is also a good 10 points below what you would expect.

It's Brown. On pace for 16 goals, and 26 points. Brown has usually been around 25 goals, and 55 points. That's 10 fewer goals, and 30 fewer points. He is the one not fulfilling his role. A guy like Frattin hasn't been good either, but he's not the long time captain with a fat new contract.

Brown being this unproductive has screwed everything up. It makes what King has done worth just enough for the Kings to survive, instead of giving them 2 full lines. It's caused the #1 line to be an increasing juggling act. The Kings don't have the cap room for Brown to be this unproductive. They don't have the talent on the rest of the roster for Brown to be this unproductive.

I could think of a lot of players in this league I would take over Brown at his new caphit and also for being a Captain of this team. I gave him a ton of slack after that monster effort he put into our Stanley Cup run, but he hasn't done diddly squat since then.

 

[dman3474]

The problem with Green is that he is a d-man who doesnt play d.

 

[Face Wash]

The players I'm talking about are the ones we expect offense out of and they aren't producing. Everyone has a role and most aren't fulfilling it.

Martinez would have a better year if he had a stable role, as he should.

Nolan is an exception I forgot. I really love how he's developed.

Williams is playing like he normally does. His defense and forecheck is awesome, but the point aren't there. His offense is down.

Toffoli is just like Martinez. Play him on the fourth line and don't expect much. Again, I wouldn't point blame on 21 year old kid.

I thought we'd all agree Quick is good as ever. Didn't think I needed to put his name alongside Carter and King.

Stoll is garbage.

I've never blamed Trevor Lewis for anything. I don't need to vent on a bottom six energy player who makes six figures.

I'm talking about established players that aren't producing points.

Well you didn't want ppl to split hairs but you said EVERYONE but two guys were having down years. So I brought up some guys who weren't.

Stoll isnt garbage he's an overpaid 3rd line center who does exactly what's asked of him except score lots of goals and to that end he's actually on pace to score more than he usually scores for this franchise.

Williams offense isnt down...his assists are. Anyone's would be if they were stuck on a line with Dustin Brown and Jarret Stoll.

In the end, the only guy who's been garbage is the captain. His offense has brought new meaning to the saying "down goes Brown". A case can be made that Brown's regression offensively has cost this team 5 or 6 wins and any chance we had vs. CHI last year and this year.

Remember when Lombardi put his name out there before the SC Run? Well I think the guy needs either a wake up call or a complete change of scenery because he's been awful for quite sometime now. This could be a lubomir pre-contract trade situation all over again.

 

[KingsFan7824]

I could think of a lot of players in this league I would take over Brown at his new caphit and also for being a Captain of this team. I gave him a ton of slack after that monster effort he put into our Stanley Cup run, but he hasn't done diddly squat since then.

That's not entirely true. He had 18 goals and 29 points in 46 games last year. That's 32 goals, and 52 points over 82 games. MIA for the most part in the playoffs though, no question.

I'm still working on the theory that the suspension he got for elbowing Pominville messed with his head. That happened with 2 games left in the year, he got suspended for 2 games, and even before any leg injuries in the playoffs last year he wasn't all that good after he came back from that suspension. Plus you add the leg thing he's had since training camp, and it's all just come together in a bad way for him. He doesn't seem to have the power to throw the hits, and at the same time he's getting knocked off his skates an awful lot.

Which is a shame, because he is so important. He may not be great, but he is important to this team.