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LW Patrik Laine - Tappara, Liiga (2016 Draft) IX

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aka Ude said:
I mean he starts to pull the puck with his forehand, and then finishes it between his legs with the backhand side of his stick. Right?
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It's more like a toe. But it's not really a typical toe drag as that's just the transition. Like if we look at 6:05-6:08 here:



You notice his teammate even jumped. It looks like he's shooting a wrister. The D has to take out the wrister -> Laine's long stick and reach make this move very tricky.

Not that this move in itself is special or unique but I haven't seen anyone doing it better and faster with more control than Laine does. The transition for the puck ending up at the edge of his reach on his backhand is very swift.
 
Huffer said:
Wrong, barely any Jets fans are even posting in these threads compared to the total amount of posts.



Agreed. Going from 6 to 2 was huge. Whether it's Laine or Puljujarvi we're still happy with the significant talent jump.
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Agreed! Personally, I lurk to get more info on Winnipeg's 2OA pick and ignore 95% of the chatter. I ignore the comparisons and forecasting on how many points he will get and useless rehashed back and forth. Why? Because Laine is a PROSPECT.

and share gems like these :) :Patrik Laine can’t help but be himself, which will be pretty good for the NHL

by Michael Traikos
For the record, Patrik Laine is not a jerk.
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More on Laine and his candor on believing he is the best player this draft. Whatever one may think of Laine, he sure is interesting.

No war of words between Matthews and Laine

By Frank Seravalli

Laine said his meeting with Toronto was his toughest.

“I liked their interview,†Laine said. “It was just harder than the others, but I think it went pretty well.â€

Laine didn’t back down from his claim then that he was the top player available in the draft, either. He isn’t saying it for show or entertainment. It’s his honest belief.

“I want to be No. 1 because I want to show everybody that I can be the best player in this draft,†Laine said. That’s the thing that I want to be: the first one. I just want to show people what I can do on the ice. If it’s entertaining, it’s good, of course.â€
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http://www.tsn.ca/talent/no-war-of-words-between-matthews-and-laine-1.502438
 
MardyBum said:
There's probably more posts in this thread from Leafs fans than Jets fans.

Most posts :

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Leafs fan
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Leafs fan
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Jets fan.

Hey, first Jets fan clocks in at #17 on the list for posts in this thread, tied with three more Leafs fans.

Leafs fans are posting in here more than us.

But yeah, we're the ones obsessed with Laine :laugh:.
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Its because they are scared that Laine is the best player in the draft and they are passing.
 
I don't care who drafts Laine. The Jets or the Leafs. I do know one thing. I love this kid's attitude. He is bluntly honest to a fault perhaps. But what a talent and a breath of fresh air for the NHL to have Laine represent them into the next decade.
 
YeahKassian said:
Sick burn, bro.

I'm at peace with that, the fact still remains that Laine is the best player in the draft.
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Think you better consult the word fact in the dictionary as it doesnt apply here whatsoever. He "might" be the better goal scorer, that is up for debate but he's certainly not the best hockey player at this point given the relative skill sets.
 
Has one teams fans ever been this interested in an other teams prospect, leafs say they dont want him, but him seems so much more interesting to them still.

Oh, the confusion :laugh:

BTW why does it seem obvious that Matthews is better then Pulju? IMO that´s the real discussion, all 3 top-3 prospects are great, i just dont buy into consencus that Matthews is #1.
 
WillTheThrill said:
As soon as the Leafs won the lottery Laine became the BPA for many people. In fact, I didn't see anyone mention that Laine should go #1 until the Leafs won the lottery.

I find it hilarious though. Leaf haters are just soooooo pissed off that the Leafs finally get their franchise center. Can't wait to embrace the hate even more when the Leafs are cup contenders soon :)
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I see this mentioned so often. However, the thing I take at least from this thread is that people really don't care about them being Leafs fans. Even though people have a bad impression of them, it's of Leafs fans' own doing.

As you can see, this thread mostly has Finnish posters and at least to me specifically, I just think that Laine is the best player of the draft period, it has nothing to do with who's picking first, who's picking second or anything like that. I have thought this since at least January.


It's taken wind even further after his worlds performance despite him playing on the wing he cannot play. Despite all that, and despite seeing that he has no idea how to play there, he did so well as u-18. This is a logical reason for a boost in Laine's value in the eyes of many people.

I think that the only people who think this has something to do with the lottery are Leafs fans.
 
WillTheThrill said:
As soon as the Leafs won the lottery Laine became the BPA for many people. In fact, I didn't see anyone mention that Laine should go #1 until the Leafs won the lottery.

I find it hilarious though. Leaf haters are just soooooo pissed off that the Leafs finally get their franchise center. Can't wait to embrace the hate even more when the Leafs are cup contenders soon :)
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Still did not answer why you guys are so into Laine :D You guys should just be happy with Matthews and stop bringing Laine down :)
 
WillTheThrill said:
As soon as the Leafs won the lottery Laine became the BPA for many people. In fact, I didn't see anyone mention that Laine should go #1 until the Leafs won the lottery.

I find it hilarious though. Leaf haters are just soooooo pissed off that the Leafs finally get their franchise center. Can't wait to embrace the hate even more when the Leafs are cup contenders soon :)
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Actually, that's not true. In Bob McKenzie's last ranking, he said two scouts had Laine first overall.

The narrative that Laine is a one-trick pony, unlikely to transition well to North American play, won't be able to score goals except on the power play, won't be effective against top talent, will likely be a disappointment, etc only started up after the Leafs won the lottery.
 
UsernameWasTaken said:
Actually, that's not true. In Bob McKenzie's last ranking, he said two scouts had Laine first overall.
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Also Babs say that Toronto pick Laine or Matthews. If they were sure that they pick AM, he wouldn't be said that and that said Toronto fan's (me too) have to be prepared that we pick Laine. I think that way Babs want's to say us to not just think our pick is AM. Still i believe, he is and in this situation i would pick AM, but he is not clear BPA and in my eyes they even, but AM is center and that is the reason to pick him.
 
With the genious Marjamäki coaching, I'll be surprised if he doesn't translate to NHL style hockey well enough during the World Cup. Jets won't even have to worry about having to get him used to the smaller ice surface.


A fact I have seen almost entirely ignored is that Laine's home rink is not international size, it's a hybrid... right in between international and north american ice. It's not as insignificant a fact as one would like to believe... The difference between international and hybrid ice is nearly the same as the difference between hybrid and north american ice.
 
Shwaguy said:
Bull ****. Matthews is the one who's gotten underplayed while Laine has gotten overplayed ever since Leafs won the lotto.
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Is that true? I've been reading the matthews thread and am seeing him considered superior to well established players like Kopitar and Eichel. If you think that that's underrating, aren't you overrating with your entire premise, here?


I at least have provided counter-examples on video when people complained about Laine's perceived weaknesses.
 
Shwaguy said:
Bull ****. Matthews is the one who's gotten underplayed while Laine has gotten overplayed ever since Leafs won the lotto.
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Lol no. Trying reading the threads. The Laine thread is clogged with posts from Leafs fans making disparaging comments about him. It's fairly easy to see, even going back just a few pages.
 
UsernameWasTaken said:
Lol no. Trying reading the threads. The Laine thread is clogged with posts from Leafs fans making disparaging comments about him. It's fairly easy to see, even going back just a few pages.
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Why go back a few pages? I’ll rehash why I think Laine shouldn’t go #1 overall with my first point being my largest concern:

-Can’t stop and start (no seriously, he never stops and starts), is a very clear “floater” when he doesn’t have puck possession. But once he gets moving he flies, so I guess that’s why he “floats”. This really worries me at the next level and on smaller ice. A lot. Acceleration is greatly in question.

-Has very weak 1-on-1 skills (at speed), though his puck possession in zone is great. Problems getting by defenders unless he can bully them or blow by them with speed in transition. I get not many agree with me here, but we’ll have to agree to disagree.

-Is a shoot first player. Not to say his shot isn’t elite, because it is. I’m glad he uses it a lot, but would like to see a few more nice passes or just less shots from weak areas. Speaking of passing, it’s pretty average with minimal backhand ability.
 
WillTheThrill said:
As soon as the Leafs won the lottery Laine became the BPA for many people. In fact, I didn't see anyone mention that Laine should go #1 until the Leafs won the lottery.

I find it hilarious though. Leaf haters are just soooooo pissed off that the Leafs finally get their franchise center. Can't wait to embrace the hate even more when the Leafs are cup contenders soon :)
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That's just rubbish.

After the lottery I've started to see comments where
Nylander >>>> Laine, or Marner >>>>> Laine, or Nylander > Laine, Marner > Laine and more comments on Matthews is the superior player, or how Laine is this brutal skating winger, 1 dimensional winger who has just a shot.

I've also linked the poll before, Eichel vs Barkov vs Matthews and somehow Matthews value exploded after the lottery.

But don't mention those.

I don't know why it's so wrong to say they are pretty much tied, different players but the best in their position, and Leafs will happily pick Matthews and Jets Laine.
 
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