Hopefully he won't have to worry about that next year, he needs to go win WC gold in 2017.
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Hopefully he won't have to worry about that next year, he needs to go win WC gold in 2017.
Gsus
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The window is the next season. If he ends up in Jets, they will be so good for so long he'll have no chance to come to WC and I want him to win one gold there.
Fully expected if you read the article explaining why he chose Laine over Matthews. He's still in the minority with his opinion. He also had Matthews 4 and Eichel 5.
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Regarding on the Pronman's list i agree with him about Eichel. I would take whole 2016 top 3 above Eichel. The first time i saw him was at the WJC where i found myself wondering why is he holding on to the puck so long? It wasn't because he was too good because it was slowing team USA's play down and not helping it. It wasn't because of poor linemates either. Then i saw another game him playing in wjc and another and another and same thing every other shift or so. Well i thought he was just trying too hard an taking too much pressure for succeeding (hype was strong obviously). In reference watching Mcdavid in that tournament was great and while being better player he moved the puck much faster than Eichel making the whole team better.
Then i saw Eichel in NHL and the same thing almost every shift. Holding that puck second or two too long. Since then i have really started to doubt if it's just that he doesn't see the ice and team mates at the elite level which i think the guys ranked above see. Or his natural reaction is just slower but whatever it is i think will be holding him back at being the player he was projected to be. (Que the buffalo fans coming at me and blaming his bad line mates etc.)
Then i saw Eichel in NHL and the same thing almost every shift. Holding that puck second or two too long. Since then i have really started to doubt if it's just that he doesn't see the ice and team mates at the elite level which i think the guys ranked above see. Or his natural reaction is just slower but whatever it is i think will be holding him back at being the player he was projected to be. (Que the buffalo fans coming at me and blaming his bad line mates etc.)
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Honestly, there is something like 30ish zone entries, not really impressive when you consider he played 18 playoff games.
You can see that with the smaller rinks he'll have a much more difficult time due to his acceleration and sluggish agility. The big ice helped him a ton there to have outside space on.
Laine won't be needed to carry the puck in on the Jets though(if they draft him), and that works out great for him.
The ice difference is not that big, also is easier to him cause there is not that wide middle zone and he is deadly every area in o-zone and very good tight situation, also it's not easy to take puck for him cause his big frame, stick and skills. He is also better skater already than like Jamie Benn.
I don't know what your case is to always try to find some negative to Laine and your point is always poor and it's not at close to realism at all.
What are they doing in NHL, 5 on 1?
Not really sure what is the point you're trying to prove here.
But anyway, watch through the video below and pay attention to the speed both teams display there.
Then watch the sequence below:
https://streamable.com/wobq
...and then tell me if you see any significant contrast as to the speed, available time and space on the ice and the intensity in general. Because if you don't, we just better agree to disagree because then we would be so far off the same page regarding the subject matter.
Gotta say though, in that particular sequence I love about the confidence of Laine and how he challenges the D and is kind of a "puck hog."
Yes there is more intensity, less time and space, but there is also sometimes more space in open ice cause is coast-to-coast and teams turn game offence much more faster so there is Laine place to come left side and make a plays. Also this is finals and it's more tight of course, but they don't play "kilpikonna" game there like Finland. Also you have to make your play and shot many times faster, but Laine have fast release in his skill set if he need to that and it's still very accurate. Also it's easier play to winger there cause you don't have to play that much complete game and defensive game what centers and defenders have to.
I am not saying Laine won't find a way to make the adjustment. I am saying his skating as it stands leaves questions about how it will translate to the NHL.
You say the play is more coast-to-coast in the NHL... you're right about that, plus the transition game is much more heavily used in the NHL. All that supports the notion that he'll have to work on his acceleration. And the lack of agility is something I see becoming an issue for him unless he improves on that as well.
Yes but if you watch like Jamie Benn and many other big guys in NHL, they don't have good skating and agility or acceleration, but they have big body, skills and good positioning and that way they manage to play so high level and Laine have those too. I agree and Laine and also his coach agree that he need more agility and acceleration and that's why i don't expect anything magical first 2 years, but when Laine gets more strength and explosive in his legs and also more strength to his upper body, couple years experience to NHL and tips from the older guy, he will be unstoppable.
But no matter where he have played this year, people have always disbelief what he can do, FEL, WJC, FEL playoffs, WHC and he still manage to be one of the best in everywhere where he have played. So now people have disbelief how he can play World Cup, if he play good there then people say it was joke tournament and then there is again disbelief how he can manage NHL maybe toughest division (if and when Jets draft him) and then he have to again show what he can do regular season. Then comes to disbelief in playoffs and etc. etc. and yet again i am very happy if his game goes forward and he gets similar points what Barkov have first season and if he get more, that would be awesome. I expect his first year NHL something like 15+15 or 20+10 and 30 points, if he gets 25 goal that would be amazing, but i am happy 15-20 goals.
This thread is almost at 1,000 posts, so I'll put the new one up now:
Continue the conversation here: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=119189247
Continue the conversation here: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=119189247
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