LW Patrik Laine - Tappara, Liiga (2016 Draft) IX

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If the Jets take Laine 2nd overall, they're going to have quite a few players that are big and skilled. It's going to give teams quite the handful.
 
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So ignoring all the crap. What kind of suit are we thinking Laine is going to be rocking to the draft? Any input from Finnish fans? Is he going to go classic? Flamboyant? A bright ass blue and white?
 
So ignoring all the crap. What kind of suit are we thinking Laine is going to be rocking to the draft? Any input from Finnish fans? Is he going to go classic? Flamboyant? A bright ass blue and white?

I think he is gonna go with an elegant style. And they say, that he is gonna wear sunglasses in there.:sarcasm: Because he just doesn't care:yo:

Navy blue suit. Think about if he actually went so far that he has a Leafs tie.:laugh:
 
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The kid is probably the most confident/cocky prospect in years. In recent memories I remember daigle and yakupov(kinda) making comments like this about being first.

His attitude really rubs me wrong
 
The kid is probably the most confident/cocky prospect in years. In recent memories I remember daigle and yakupov(kinda) making comments like this about being first.

His attitude really rubs me wrong

Unless the Leafs draft him. Then he instantly turns into the best prospect to ever draw a breath. So blatantly transparent.
 
The kid is probably the most confident/cocky prospect in years. In recent memories I remember daigle and yakupov(kinda) making comments like this about being first.

His attitude really rubs me wrong

And, you know... Eichel. But it's been a year, so I understand that people forget about it.
 
And, you know... Eichel. But it's been a year, so I understand that people forget about it.

Ahh, forgot Eichel's comments.

And he was comparing himself to friggin McDavid.

It had been reported that Jack Eichel was telling those he was interviewing with during the 2015 NHL Scouting Combine in Buffalo this week that he would be better than consensus number one pick Connor McDavid. When speaking with WGR 550-AM Buffalo this week, Sabres general manager Tim Murray confirmed the report when asked how is interview with Eichel went.

“He also said to me that they were pretty happy after the draft lottery,†Murray said. “He said ‘you may have been disappointed, but you shouldn’t be disappointed.'â€

Murray then said that he clarified his comments with Eichel, stating that it wasn’t with the player he was disappointed with, but the process of the NHL Draft Lottery itself. He added that disappointment never once crossed his mind when it came to the idea of drafting the Hobey Baker winner.

When it came to Eichel’s comments about being the best, Murray admitted that he was extremely pleased.

“I think he should say that,†he said. “Why not say that? I think he believes it. I think the way he played this season, we called it a two-horse race all year, so why should he not believe that?

“Why should he not believe in his skill set, his total package — size, skating ability, puck skills, hockey sense, as I said the whole package. He’s confident in it. He backed up that confidence in his play this year; had a tremendous year. I don’t know why he wouldn’t believe he’s the best player in the draft.â€.

How dare he think he can be the best of his draft.:laugh:
 
My first thought in my head when someone (mostly NA native/Leaf fan) comes here with a oneliner saying that "Laine has some serious attitude problems" or smth like that, is: "Oh, they really don't know **** about him :laugh:".

The kid is probably the most confident/cocky prospect in years. In recent memories I remember daigle and yakupov(kinda) making comments like this about being first.

His attitude really rubs me wrong
Well it didn't take long for the next one.:) But everyone has a right to their opinion.

How does attitude (problems) connect to being confident in yourself and believing in yourself? I think this would be justified if Laine actually bashed other prospects.
 
Well it didn't take long for the next one.:) But everyone has a right to their opinion.

How does attitude (problems) connect to being confident in yourself and believing in yourself? I think this would be justified if Laine actually bashed other prospects.
Not that I think Laine suffers from this but there is over-confidence. I heard a story that Arsenal FC had all there players psychologically tested to see a variety of things, some of you may be familiar with a player Nicklas Bendtner. Well apparently in the confidence aspect of the test, he actually broke the scale. It rated players in ranges from 1-9, he ended up scoring an 10. Here is an article about it

http://en.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/72181.html

I would actually love to know what he said/answered to break the scale. Sometimes over confidence makes you believe things are possible which actually aren't. Arrogance is a different by product, where people over estimate their ability and become lazy, which doesn't seem like a Laine problem for Laine as his work ethic seems to be on the high-end of prospects.

edit: To clarify, Bendtner was a bust but I didn't choose or remember it for that reason. I also wouldn't be surprised if someone like Zlaten would break the scale.
 
Unless the Leafs draft him. Then he instantly turns into the best prospect to ever draw a breath. So blatantly transparent.

If the Lesfs draft Laine, most leaf fans would be disappointed. He will be very good, but not the most skilled and important in the draft.
 
Only in hockey is code cr looked down upon with scorn.

I like the kid - he's more interesting that Matthews who comes across as pretty boring in interviews (granted I think Matthews is the better player still).

Whoever picks Laine is getting a great player.
 
Only in hockey is code cr looked down upon with scorn.

I like the kid - he's more interesting that Matthews who comes across as pretty boring in interviews (granted I think Matthews is the better player still).

Whoever picks Laine is getting a great player.
Baseball is actually much worse. Bryce Harper is probably the best player in the game and catches hate for being overly confident. But Laine is 100% a better interview than Matthews, and 99% of the league.
 
The kid is probably the most confident/cocky prospect in years. In recent memories I remember daigle and yakupov(kinda) making comments like this about being first.

His attitude really rubs me wrong

Well it's a darn good thing he won't be on the Leafs then!
 
I actually like Laine's confidence and his interviews are refreshing from the normal trivial garbage you hear. Basically, he's anything but basic.

Having said that, Leafs are taking AM most definitely. Im not going to be warped by a flashy scoring winger who gives a good interview. Maybe after the draft when all this media stuff is done, he can get to work on improving his skating.
 
Nothing wrong with a bit of personality. It's only a problem if he actually buys his own hype and it starts affecting his work ethic.
 
I think most of us know Leafs are taking Matthews.

And he doesn't need to improve his skating (anymore than any young player does), he needs to improve his acceleration.

There's a distinction there that seems to be lost on people.
 
I think most of us know Leafs are taking Matthews.

And he doesn't need to improve his skating (anymore than any young player does), he needs to improve his acceleration.

There's a distinction there that seems to be lost on people.
He needs to also improve edge work and agility, which is tough for guys his size. His straight line speed is fine though.

edit: Though while improving agility will be helpful, as he fills out he will be able to go through people rather than relying on agility to create space.
 
I think most of us know Leafs are taking Matthews.

And he doesn't need to improve his skating (anymore than any young player does), he needs to improve his acceleration.

There's a distinction there that seems to be lost on people.

When you get to see the cup finals, you gain an appreciation of the quickness of elite teams.

The difference between success and failure is razor thin.

Players who are on the very peak of their primes simply do not have the micro-second they usually have.
 
Not that I think Laine suffers from this but there is over-confidence. I heard a story that Arsenal FC had all there players psychologically tested to see a variety of things, some of you may be familiar with a player Nicklas Bendtner. Well apparently in the confidence aspect of the test, he actually broke the scale. It rated players in ranges from 1-9, he ended up scoring an 10. Here is an article about it

http://en.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/72181.html

I would actually love to know what he said/answered to break the scale. Sometimes over confidence makes you believe things are possible which actually aren't. Arrogance is a different by product, where people over estimate their ability and become lazy, which doesn't seem like a Laine problem for Laine as his work ethic seems to be on the high-end of prospects.

edit: To clarify, Bendtner was a bust but I didn't choose or remember it for that reason. I also wouldn't be surprised if someone like Zlaten would break the scale.

There may be over confidence in Laine, I can understand if people think that. But I don't see it as a problem at all, it's different to normal finnish kids and actually to many other prospects. I'm sure others think what Laine says, but are too afraid to say it out loud.

I'm sure the elite talent we have in todays NHL (Crosby, Ovy, Kane, Stamkos etc.) all knew that they were special. Except Ovy, I don't think anyone has expressed it in the way Laine does. And I think that if you don't believe you can be the best, you never will be the best or probably even elite. So the thing is, Laine is saying these things to media. The thing also is, that he gotta have some numbers to back it up in the future.

If I had to pick one thing he said to take back for him, I'd pick the comment where he said that he believes to be (or can be) at Ovy level in five years. Just because, everyone will be looking him more and media writes what's to be written if things don't go perfectly (even rigth away). But the way I look at that comment, it doesn't really bother me. I think it that way that knows he is good and he knows what he said and the work will be there without a question. It has to be if you compare yourself to Ovechkin.

Some people have already questioned his attitude, arrogance and cockyness. They wouldn't probably feel the same way if they actually understood Finnish and had seen the previous interviews. It's kind of sad that people just react at what he said in the combine and make up their minds based on that. It would be way different if people already knew him better.

On the other hand, he's probably the most promising goal scoring prospect since Stamkos and you gotta give it to him. It's not like he is some guy ranked in the mid 1st round and is saying these things without anything to back it up. He's draft year is basically amazing, not many guys have that kind of resume going to the draft. He's different than many others and being different is always great.

Ovechkin and Zlatan would probably break the scale if Bendtner did it. You already know what the answer is if you ask them who's the best player in their respected sports.
 
Does Laine really want to go Number 1, or just really wants to play in Toronto.

It makes me wonder if he really does not want to go to play in Winnipeg? Has he looked at what happened to a lot of the No. 1 OA picks in recent years? Things have not gone so well for most of them. Being no. 2 have the luxury of less pressure even if he thrives on it, the less pressure works better for all young athletes. Winnipeg also have a very good team for him to play on, so I am not sure why Toronto is such a big deal, especially if he come from place with similar climate and environment? Is there a personal thing he has against Matthews that he can't stand if he is taken behind him? Being No. 1 OA does not mean a thing. You can be highly recognized for having a very successful career as No. 2 OA - see Seguin and Hedman.

I am sure Matthews does not feel the same way towards Laine.
 
There's nothing I can add to these crazy comments. You're set in your mind. What am I supposed to say to someone who thinks Laine and Mario are comparable and that Ovechkin is not a very good hockey player. I say I disagree and then I get called a hater. Discussing Laine with you is impossible, I'm sorry.

Please find a single post in this thread that states that Mario and Laine are comparable (other than stylistically). I don't think you can.
 
It makes me wonder if he really does not want to go to play in Winnipeg? Has he looked at what happened to a lot of the No. 1 OA picks in recent years? Things have not gone so well for most of them. Being no. 2 have the luxury of less pressure even if he thrives on it, the less pressure works better for all young athletes. Winnipeg also have a very good team for him to play on, so I am not sure why Toronto is such a big deal, especially if he come from place with similar climate and environment? Is there a personal thing he has against Matthews that he can't stand if he is taken behind him? Being No. 1 OA does not mean a thing. You can be highly recognized for having a very successful career as No. 2 OA - see Seguin and Hedman.

Laine has also said multiple times (the latest one tonight) that he doesn't care if he isn't the first overall pick. Ofcourse everyone would like to be picked first, but he'll be fine if and when he's not the first one. He will be fine in Winnipeg.
 

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