Macch
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Don't forget the best General of them all: Tony DeHart.
Wow that's messed up
LW Michael Dal Colle (2014, 5th, NYI)
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Wow that's messed up
And since this is the Islanders we are talking about, and Dal Colle fits the Isles perfectly, you know that even if he's there at 5, he won't be the pick.
TheGroceryStick
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Not gunna lie. I kinda see the Burke assessment of 'compete' issue with him.
He looked fantastic when everything was going right, but the game I went to against the Battalion; really disappeared when needed.
Not that I wouldn't take him. However, just something to note.
I still like the prospect - but some guys I had farther away from him in the depth prospect chart, have inched a bit closer in my books.
He looked fantastic when everything was going right, but the game I went to against the Battalion; really disappeared when needed.
Not that I wouldn't take him. However, just something to note.
I still like the prospect - but some guys I had farther away from him in the depth prospect chart, have inched a bit closer in my books.
A player has a bad game every once in awhile. Don't see how it is a concern in the sightest.
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Wow, his family situation is remarkably like Matt Nieto's. His (Nieto's) sister is autistic and has down syndrome, and his mother's going through cancer treatment right now.
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Dal Colle is an excellent player and seems to be very intelligent. If he was a center i truly believe he'd be in contention for the #1 overall pick.
I see a little bit of patrick kane is this guy.
I see a little bit of patrick kane is this guy.
Yashin for President
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To anyone that has watched him most of the season, does he have that clutch play in him when the game is on the line? I know he has the skill, but to be compared to Kane means that you have to have it when it matters. I havent been reading that about him, I could be wrong.
Well he had a terrific playoffs. He also performed extremely well in big games at the minor midget level.
Most likely because he's not a centre. He also didn't have the greatest 2nd half of the season, but tore it up in the playoffs again. I'm honestly not sure though.
I've tried to figure this out. I've seen some people say that all Dal Colle does is score, he doesn't impact the game any other way. That is why some have Nick Ritchie over him for example. To me that's not true. He's shown flashes of having great defensive awareness. He also knows exactly what he has to work on, which is his defensive play and skating (Pretty sure he works with one of the best skating coaches Barb Underhill too). I remember listening to an interview with him, and the interviewer complimented him on his skating ability, he then told the interviewer that they were flattering him quite a bit on his skating and then went on to say it was something that he is going to continue to work on.
Honestly though, he's a hell of a talent. He has some of the best hands I've seen on a big guy, a release on his shot that will put him along side some of the best in the NHL, great playmaking ability, and a high hockey IQ to match.
SH15
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This kid is the 3rd best player in the draft behind Ekblad & Reinhart. True story.
It's hard to say a player is under rated in the draft when he will go Top 5 but MDC is definitely under rated in this draft. Basically nobody is talking about him. Kid is elite.
It's hard to say a player is under rated in the draft when he will go Top 5 but MDC is definitely under rated in this draft. Basically nobody is talking about him. Kid is elite.
SmellOfVictory
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Not a centre, relied fairly heavily on the PP to produce, played with an older first round pick in Laughton. Reinhart, Bennett, and Draisaitl all essentially carried their teams (and certainly their lines) whereas it's more difficult to say the same for Dal Colle. They also scored a lot of ES points, which is more impressive than being heavily reliant on the PP (particularly in junior) for scoring.
As far as Ekblad, I don't know. Ekblad has the big frame and heavy shot that scouts love, and he allegedly thinks the game at a high level.
Well he was on the best team out of all those prospects. He was also the Gen's best player in the playoffs.
He didn't really rely on the PP. He can score at any time of the game in any situation. Not sure why he gets knocked because he has shown to be lethal on the PP.
SmellOfVictory
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"Rely on the PP" in the sense that a greater proportion of his points were acquired on the PP (I believe it's 40-50% for Dal Colle if memory serves, vs. ~30-40% for others).
Being lethal on the PP is fine, but when a disproportionate amount of your points come from the PP it implies a lesser ability to score at ES. And if you can't dominate at ES in junior, it's generally a sign of weakness as an NHL prospect.
Now I'm not saying that Dal Colle is a bad prospect, because he's not. I'm simply saying that the fact that a smaller proportion of his points came at ES (in addition to the fact that he scored less points than those guys, period) indicates that he's less dominant as a prospect, and thus may be less good as a full-fledged adult hockey player.
This is obviously not a perfect correlation; sometimes a player with greater PP point proportion is better than another guy with a greater ES point proportion if their overall point totals are similar, sometimes a guy comes out of nowhere and breaks out post-draft, etc. However, as a general rule of thumb, ES/PP point split for prospects is a fairly reliable indicator (in addition to the other indicators) of which prospects are more likely to be successful.
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He has clutch ability thats for sure. He can take the game over and bust it wide open, which happened a lot this year. Personally think he was more dangerous than Laughton was, that should speak for itself.
I truly dont think its a great indicator for judging Dal Colle as a prospect, anytime he has the puck in the offensive zone he is a dangerous as they come, especially for his draft class. Just because he has more points on the pp than most others generally means he has had more pp time, and the Generals being a good team also were on the pp more than most. You are drafting him for his size, elusive skating, great hands and deadly shot. Forgot about his point totals or how he got them, its the package being put together completely that you are drafting and hoping for.
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How does Dal Colle compare stylistically to Tavares when he was in Oshawa? Seems like there is a lot of skillset similarities between the two. I hope the Isles get MDC, it would complete the trifecta with JT and de Haan. Maybe we select Hunter Smith later on to make it a 4-some.
Yashin for President
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I cant stand getting my hopes high. Last time I did that was when we selected Nino and I wanted Fowler. I like Dal Colle and would be happy if we picked him. If he was available not only would he be the best talent on the board but he would also fill a need. Ive never been so anxious for the draft to happen.
How does Dal Colle compare stylistically to Tavares when he was in Oshawa? Seems like there is a lot of skillset similarities between the two. I hope the Isles get MDC, it would complete the trifecta with JT and de Haan. Maybe we select Hunter Smith later on to make it a 4-some.
The Island seems to love its Generals, cant say I blame them haha. They both have unbelievable offensive instincts and playmaking, DC's shot is lethal and thats what makes him so successful, you just cant give him any room. JT was a great possesion player and an even better scorer in junior (obviously). They have similar skill sets, JT was just absolute magic and one of the best players the ohl has seen. I personally think they would play very well together, DC gets open very easily and can work off the cycle.
