Leaving all the personal stuff aside (which frankly, I think the guy has paid for more than enough…), Mailloux has barely played any hockey in the past 2 years so nothing wrong with wanting to see him play a lot more before giving him a contract.
Prospect Info: Logan Mailloux Part 3 The Only Hockey Talk Thread
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DougHarvey
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There is a lot of blame to go around.
1. Logan Mailloux for being an idiot. I dont care if he was 17.
2. His Parents for not teaching him right from wrong
3. NHL. They should have removed his from draft eligible players
4. Idiot Bergevin for thinking this would go over well. The smirk on his face when he announced the pick says it all. Look at how smart I am.
5. Geoff Molson for not firing him the next day.
I am all for giving Logan a chance to redeem himself and become a pro hockey player. We have not nor will we hear anything about what program he went through.
1. Logan Mailloux for being an idiot. I dont care if he was 17.
2. His Parents for not teaching him right from wrong
3. NHL. They should have removed his from draft eligible players
4. Idiot Bergevin for thinking this would go over well. The smirk on his face when he announced the pick says it all. Look at how smart I am.
5. Geoff Molson for not firing him the next day.
I am all for giving Logan a chance to redeem himself and become a pro hockey player. We have not nor will we hear anything about what program he went through.
Sorinth
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Not sure what is so controversial about what Hughes said. Mailloux has played 12 games since being drafted and was hit and miss in them (Has the tools but the toolbox is a big question mark). Frankly had we (And other teams) respected Mailhoux's wishes and not drafted him last year I'm not sure Mailloux is a 1st round pick this year, though probably early to mid 2nd round. And whether you think it's fair or not this will follow Mailloux his whole career, so the Habs do need to figure out whether he can deal with it being brought up time and again or not. So it makes sense to wait and see.
Signing guys who you plan to send back to juniors is considered a reward because they get their signing bonus and Mailloux has nothing to get rewarded. There's also a small cap benefit to signing them early when they eventually play in the NHL but it's pretty minor.
Frankly the posters claiming Mailloux should be upset with how we've treated him are just laughable. If Mailloux actually felt like the Habs have done him wrong then I'd want no part of him because it would be a sign that he's a headcase that hasn't learnt anything and is unlikely to ever put things together. Thankfully there's no reason to believe that's actually what Mailloux thinks.
Signing guys who you plan to send back to juniors is considered a reward because they get their signing bonus and Mailloux has nothing to get rewarded. There's also a small cap benefit to signing them early when they eventually play in the NHL but it's pretty minor.
Frankly the posters claiming Mailloux should be upset with how we've treated him are just laughable. If Mailloux actually felt like the Habs have done him wrong then I'd want no part of him because it would be a sign that he's a headcase that hasn't learnt anything and is unlikely to ever put things together. Thankfully there's no reason to believe that's actually what Mailloux thinks.
100% agree that Mailloux did an idiot move that got him in trouble. I don't think he was an idiot. As for his parents... Is this really a thing? With no information (I didn't read any, doesn't mean it isn't out there) about his parents, you believe that you can say they didn't teach him right from wrong? It's unfortunate we have become a society that so easily throw rocks sitting in our glass house.
Why should the NHL have removed his draft eligibility? What is with you people. He made a mistake and is paying dearly. He has been made to look like a fool (earned). He hasn't seen a penny of NHL money. He earned being picked in the NHL draft. If a team wanted him, that's their risk.
What else; should he be tarred and feathered? What is this obsession with punishment. It's never enough. More punishment. Cut off his... Cut off his fingers so he can take pictures...
I for one am glad that Hughes appears to have a good head on his shoulders. Says things in a calculated manner. This kid deserves a shot at some point. Glad he made it clear that that point is not this year. Make him prove himself. Make him understand that he better earn a chance because he certainly won't be given one.
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Margaret Bélanger has explained the nature of the program Mailloux is going through.... Anyway, it is none of our business.
DougHarvey
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The kid himself asked not to be drafted. So the NHL should have told teams not to draft him.
Sorry, maybe it's the Habs that are under probation from the Mailloux camp. At this point, for Mailloux, if he signs or not with Habs, it will change nothing for him.. Also, if somebody is under evaluation as a person one year after being drafted by the team, missing half a season after suspensin because of his criminal offense as a minor, it means that you are not sure he is a good person or human being, call it the way you want. It means after following him for one year with therapy and all that they are still not sure he is not a potential recidivist. To me it means they will probably trade him. Despite the fact that he played only a few games, he showed enough to deserve a contrat and if HuGo + Molson were willing to go forward with him, then it would have been the time to make a stronf statement in front of the medias. To say we believe in him, he showed us that it was a one time mistake and we are ready to move forward and we ask you journalist to move forward. There is nothing more to say about that.
I get what Hughes is doing. Mailloux has zero leverage. Go play in London next year and then we’ll talk contract. What is he gonna say? Kidney and Roy got a contract? Fine, but what are you going to about it ?
If he’s good next year, he’ll get signed.
If he’s good next year, he’ll get signed.
Schooner Guy
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Hughes really didn't say anything other than Mailloux is still under evaluation. There is no rush to commit to a decision and of course Hughes is going the safe route in terms of PR. Habs spend a pile of money on communications personnel and Hughes is simply adhering to their expertise in this case. Something the Bergie regime didn't do.
New Habs brass did go watch Mailloux play at least once this year so I assume they're still working with him and in regular contact regarding his program. They're simply not divulging any information as there is no need to until next spring.
A big reason that he may not be a great pick even at 31 is that he's not very bright and he doesn't make good decisions on or off the ice.
The NHL wasn't allowed to do so without violating NHLPA agreement.
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I have no idea how smart he is. One mistake does not make someone stupid or not bright. However maybe he is, like I said; I have no idea.
How do you come up with this shit? I get this is a forum and we are allowed a personal opinion, but man is that a stretch.
The most obvious situation, given the circumstance is that they want to keep the kid away from the team another year as we all have short memories. He goes back to junior, he plays a full year. As a 20 yo he should have a pretty good campaign given the tools he has. As another poster said he sure needs to figure out how to carry his toolbox with him from game to game but all young players need to learn. Remember, he barely played 10 games last year. What is Hughes going to evaluate? I can't fathom this kid is doing stupid things alienating his new bosses. He made it clear he wants people behind him, to cheer for him and the team. Let him earn that right.
Maybe he f***s up again and the Habs just never sign him/release him (Not sure the rules with drafted NA prospects). Good riddance if that is the case.
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Plus, he's barely played. If the Canadiens don't sign him, they'll get a 2nd round pick in 2023, as compensation, which may be more than what they can get in any trade.
As well, it's entirely possible Mailloux doesn't sign with the Canadiens anyway if he thinks they're dragging their feet and not committed. That would put him back into the draft, or become a UFA.
Big question is does he get an invite to rookie camp?
Matthew McConaughay
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He got operated, don't know if he will be okay in time for the rookie camp, if he's invited.
Kudo Shinichi
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Sorinth
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From your quote they said they didn't discuss it with the NHLPA, and they could have done that and I'm not sure the NHLPA would've forbidden it had the NHL discussed it given that the request came from the player.
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I doubt he will get invited. It wouldn't be fair to Mailloux, and it wouldn't be fair to the other players at the rookie camp.
Journalists make sure they ask a question about him every time they talk to Hughes. Mailloux played 10 games this year and that's what he had to talk about at the combine.
He'll stay in the OHL and he'll get the Jacob Olofsson treatment if he doesn't have a season that makes it worthwhile to live all of that circus.
Kojo
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Wow you guys are obsessed about this guy who hasn't played in over a couple months. Find a new hobby or something.
at some point people will have to move on from all this seriously, can we all just f****** move on and let the kid play ?
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Kudo Shinichi
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Its the perfect opportunity to bring him when all the spotlight will be on Shane Wright. Also, playing some games and showcasing his talent will shut up a lot of haters.
It doesn't make much sense to not bring him. They want to make him a better person, but they also want to develop him as a hockey player. Rookie camp and main camp is great for the development of a prospect
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At this point I feel bad for him. Must be nothing worst than hearing the most sanctimonious and fart sniffing people in the world (Canadian Hockey Media) going on and on about you.
Mailloux, being a star athlete as a youth, probably has more guile and drive than all the Apron Basu and Eric Engels of the world combined. What a shame it was that Bergevin drafted him.
Mailloux, being a star athlete as a youth, probably has more guile and drive than all the Apron Basu and Eric Engels of the world combined. What a shame it was that Bergevin drafted him.
HuGort
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Gorton's motto is to trade up at draft. Done it numerous times, Miller, Schneider. Even with all the development time Mailloux has missed can tell in his games with Knights he is good NHL caliber. If I can see Hughes going to know it. Has real good shot, physical dominate right shot d-man. Floor is #4 defenseman, ceiling is Dougie Hamilton type. Hughes knows this and dragging his heels in signing Mailloux has to be the issue. He is going to move him at draft, possibility getting high in draft. Other GMs going to see Mailloux potential.
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