Prospect Info: Logan Mailloux Part 3 The Only Hockey Talk Thread

[BenchBrawl]

And where is the sponsor outrage now? Gone.

These things come in waves.

 

[ZUKI]

100% agree that Mailloux did an idiot move that got him in trouble. I don't think he was an idiot. As for his parents... Is this really a thing? With no information (I didn't read any, doesn't mean it isn't out there) about his parents, you believe that you can say they didn't teach him right from wrong? It's unfortunate we have become a society that so easily throw rocks sitting in our glass house.

Why should the NHL have removed his draft eligibility? What is with you people. He made a mistake and is paying dearly. He has been made to look like a fool (earned). He hasn't seen a penny of NHL money. He earned being picked in the NHL draft. If a team wanted him, that's their risk.

What else; should he be tarred and feathered? What is this obsession with punishment. It's never enough. More punishment. Cut off his... Cut off his fingers so he can take pictures...

I for one am glad that Hughes appears to have a good head on his shoulders. Says things in a calculated manner. This kid deserves a shot at some point. Glad he made it clear that that point is not this year. Make him prove himself. Make him understand that he better earn a chance because he certainly won't be given one.

i agree with you .
May i add that in fact, the notoriety of a hockey player makes him an excellent weapon to fight against this kind of behaviour. If the Habs manage this story correctly, they will simply ask him to talk about what he and that woman went trough .

The impact of talking about a bad behaviour is way more positive to fight this can of act, than trade him to clear Habs hands for the mistake of drafting a "devil."

 

[Team_Spirit]

Martin Leclerc this morning spoke about this and he did say that despite what they say publicly, internally, the organization is happy with Logan's path so far and how he's handling himself off the ice. They're in constant communication with the London Knights and the specialists that deal with Mailloux and they've been praising him and the work he's put in.

Mailloux is not going anywhere.He will be a top 2 Defenceman for the Habs .The guy has it all and the media henchmen will all be quiet soon enough

He played 12 games in 2 years how can they be happy and how can we project him as a top pairing D??

I bet they won't even sign him and leave that drama on Bergevin's resume.

 

[Adam Michaels]

He played 12 games in 2 years how can they be happy and how can we project him as a top pairing D??

I bet they won't even sign him and leave that drama on Bergevin's resume.

I don't know why you quoted my post when I'm talking about Leclerc saying they're happy with his progress off the ice and the work he's put into rehabilitating.

 

[Team_Spirit]

I don't know why you quoted my post when I'm talking about Leclerc saying they're happy with his progress off the ice and the work he's put into rehabilitating.

I took the ''organization is happy with Logan's path so far '' and ''how he's handling himself off the ice'' as separate statements.

Obviously, they should not be happy with him playing 12 games in 2 years. My bad.

 

[Adam Michaels]

I took the ''organization is happy with Logan's path so far '' and ''how he's handling himself off the ice'' as separate statements.

Obviously, they should not be happy with him playing 12 games in 2 years. My bad.

For sure as a hockey player, they can't be satisfied with his 12 games.

But Leclerc was specifically talking about the off-ice stuff only because Hughes mentioned yesterday that they are still evaluating him as a person.

 

[Milhouse40]

i agree with you .
May i add that in fact, the notoriety of a hockey player makes him an excellent weapon to fight against this kind of behaviour. If the Habs manage this story correctly, they will simply ask him to talk about what he and that woman went trough .

The impact of talking about a bad behaviour is way more positive to fight this can of act, than trade him to clear Habs hands for the mistake of drafting a "devil."

you mean he made 1-2 bad decisions at 17 years old. First ever teen to make bad decision, so he isn't bright ?

This is the kind of things that shouldn't be overblown but equally should not be overlook either.
In most market it's manageable considering hockey is not that big and most don't target the same demographics.

In MTL, the Habs are selling family entertainment and their image is paramount considering the giant place they take in the medias and in people's lives. These players becomes heroes for kids.

Having said that, let's say the Habs sign him and become a Habs player and something fishy happen again with him and a girl......I know, it probably won't, but let's say it happens and the story doesn't even have to be true, now they will put a ton of blame on the organization.

As an orginazation that is selling heroes for kids and family entertainment, is Mailloux worth that risk?
That's their gamble but as fans we must also understand that this is still a business and in Montreal, this organization is much much more than just about hockey.

 

[Benstheman]

I don't see any issues with that. He hasn't played enough games and there is that previous mistake he made so we should not rush to honor him with the few games he has played.

However, some are too quick to judge this situation and saying we should take the 2nd rounder if we decide not to sign him. That's very premature. This kid is working hard to get past his mistake and he has great tools. You don't give up on him that quickly



Oilers finished 11th which would be 22 picks into the 2nd round. 32+22= 54. Are you thinking that the Oilers get a late 2nd cause they are in the final 4? That only affects the 1st round from what I know. 2nd round and further is according to standings (not playoffs).

Regardless, I'd try to use that 2nd to move down to early 20's if possible. I'd love to get our hands on Miro to be honest.

I wouldn’t say it’s bulletproof but Capfriendly clearly says it does affect second round also. See draft board

 

[Michelangelo]

I don't see any issues with that. He hasn't played enough games and there is that previous mistake he made so we should not rush to honor him with the few games he has played.

However, some are too quick to judge this situation and saying we should take the 2nd rounder if we decide not to sign him. That's very premature. This kid is working hard to get past his mistake and he has great tools. You don't give up on him that quickly



Oilers finished 11th which would be 22 picks into the 2nd round. 32+22= 54. Are you thinking that the Oilers get a late 2nd cause they are in the final 4? That only affects the 1st round from what I know. 2nd round and further is according to standings (not playoffs).

Regardless, I'd try to use that 2nd to move down to early 20's if possible. I'd love to get our hands on Miro to be honest.

The Oilers pick is going to be in the back 4 of the 2nd round as playoff results impacts all rounds not just the 1st round. However, lottery results only impact the 1st round

Just look at our picks in the 2021 draft when we lost in SCF... the original picks in the back end of every round

Or our picks from 2014 draft when we lost in ECF vs Rangers... the original picks were in the back end of every round

 

[eklund the clown]

He played 12 games in 2 years how can they be happy and how can we project him as a top pairing D??

I bet they won't even sign him and leave that drama on Bergevin's resume.

I bet you are dead wrong.Gimme a break .I think he was a projected top 10 pick before he murdered those 10 people.Never saw so much exageration and that is saying a lot coming from this board.The kid yes a kid of 17 made a mistake in judgement.He didn't kill anyone or was charged with anything.Time to move on and let's see what we have here.

 

[Michelangelo]

I bet you are dead wrong.Gimme a break .I think he was a projected top 10 pick before he murdered those 10 people.Never saw so much exageration and that is saying a lot coming from this board.The kid yes a kid of 17 made a mistake in judgement.He didn't kill anyone or was charged with anything.Time to move on and let's see what we have here.

He was never considered as a top 10 pick by anyone at all

He was ranked between 15-45 by most, in fact he was 35th in Bob McKenzie's final rankings (based on a poll of 10 NHL head scouts)

"Mailloux’s name appears on the TSN final draft rankings list simply because even for the teams that have decided not to select him under any circumstances, the player was still ranked by those teams. Absent the legal issues, which of course is not the case, this is the range where he may have expected to have been chosen."

"Of the 10 scouts surveyed by TSN, four had Mailloux in their first round, including one in the top 15. Five other scouts had him rated in the second round and one in the third round."

Power pulls away from crowded draft field - TSN.ca

This year’s NHL draft class is showing signs of major unpredictability, but the Michigan defenceman cemented his status as hockey’s top prospect with a strong performance at the IIHF World Championship, Bob McKenzie writes.

www.tsn.ca

 

[Treb]

I bet you are dead wrong.Gimme a break .I think he was a projected top 10 pick before he murdered those 10 people.Never saw so much exageration and that is saying a lot coming from this board.The kid yes a kid of 17 made a mistake in judgement.He didn't kill anyone or was charged with anything.Time to move on and let's see what we have here.

I don't think I've seen him higher than mid 1st round, definitely never seen him top10.

Even if he didn't do what he did, he would have probably only got picked 25th or so because of his lack of play against decent competition.

 

[dcyhabs]

you mean he made 1-2 bad decisions at 17 years old. First ever teen to make bad decision, so he isn't bright ?

Well that and his hockey sense. Good tools, he’ll go as far as his brain will take him.

 

[HuGort]

@Scorey Perry as I was saying.



Mailloux will not be ever-ending drama. It's steadily decreasing from the initial boom.

Hughes seems to be going away from the big, heavy hard shot defenseman. More Harris, Barron skating puck moving defenseman type. Or Gorton doing it. He did same with Fox/Lindgren.

Mailloux could go in Drouin/Weber capdump thing to Arizona though. Not necessary to trade up in first round.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Twitter is not a real place people keep your heads up out there and god bless you

We all read about it last week. How Hockey Canada and the CHL participated in a cover-up that involved a paid settlement. A large number of those 8 players are likely playing in the NHL now.

Yup you really can't get more priviledged than that. Hockey Canada should be ashamed

 

[Yoor]

There is no misunderstanding. One year after his draft he said the team is not convinced he is a good human being. I am sure Mailloux and his family really like these comments. At some point you need to move on. I know he did not play many games this year, but part of it is due to this exagerated suspension by the OHL. Hockey Canada is protecting potentially very serious crimes by 8 players, the OHL is shaming a teenager for a relatively minor offense at 17. Laws in Canada are supposed to protect the anonymity of minors. Instead, Hockey Canada is protecting the anonymity of adults. Go figure.

Agree 100%. The Habs will likely regret the decision if they trade him (from a hockey POV). People love to scream and shout these days...it's easy to do.

 

[Michelangelo]

Agree 100%. The Habs will likely regret the decision if they trade him (from a hockey POV). People love to scream and shout these days...it's easy to do.

How so? He isn't likely to amount to a first pairing defensemen and he is already behind Guhle, Barron, Romanov and maybe Harris on the depth chart

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

How so? He isn't likely to amount to a first pairing defensemen and he is already behind Guhle, Barron, Romanov and maybe Harris on the depth chart

There is only 1 RD on your list.
Mailloux also has the highest potential of all.

 

[Tyson]

The few games I saw Mailloux play this past season you saw the whole package, big kid who skates like the wind, NHL shot. Yes he is raw but damn that kid has an impressive tool box to work with.
There is too much there to walk away from.

I can't wait to see him at rookie camp.

 

[Matthew McConaughay]

There is only 1 RD on your list.
Mailloux also has the highest potential of all.

If he stays healthy, he will dominated all other defensemen in the OHL.

 

[Whitesnake]

The Hockey Canada story will permit the Habs to sign Mailloux. 'Cause it puts everything in perspective. A great hockey season by him and he signs. I hated the pick. I still would have prefered other players picked in the 2nd round big time. BUT I don't walk away and get nothing. And getting a 2nd round pick is nothing compared to his potential. It's keeping him. Or it's 1st round pick or value of a 1st rounder. That's all.

 

[Yoor]

The Oilers sure aren't taking a lot of flak for having notorious POS human being Evander Kane on their roster scoring goals right now. Literally all the team has to do is put their grown up pants on in june next year, call a presser and tell people that the kid has done his penance and gets to go on with his life now. That's it.

Bingo.

 

[FF de Mars]

The Hockey Canada story will permit the Habs to sign Mailloux. 'Cause it puts everything in perspective. A great hockey season by him and he signs. I hated the pick. I still would have prefered other players picked in the 2nd round big time. BUT I don't walk away and get nothing. And getting a 2nd round pick is nothing compared to his potential. It's keeping him. Or it's 1st round pick or value of a 1st rounder. That's all.

I was just thinking the same thing. What those 8 unknown junior players did is so wrong, it's on a different scale. But what makes you think Mailloux will sign? What incentive does he have to sign? If he goes through the draft again, he's going to get his money as fast, whether he signs with the Habs or with another team. It depens on his personality, but a lot of people would go through the draft again just out of spite; and then, maybe he thinks it's a better move for his career.

 

[Yoor]

How so? He isn't likely to amount to a first pairing defensemen and he is already behind Guhle, Barron, Romanov and maybe Harris on the depth chart

Just my opinion, not backed by any stats or anything. Just a gut feeling about the kid from a hockey POV...

 

[1909]

Hughes specifically worded his response not sending him back to juniors without a contract is “for personal development not hockey development”

The org will either use Mailloux as collateral in a deal at the draft or sign him before next year IMO… not concerned in the least

The kid played a handful of games last season in the OHL. He badly needs "hockey development" !!!!