Prospect Info: Logan Mailloux Part 3 The Only Hockey Talk Thread

[beowulf]

So Habs quietly tendered him an offer so as to keep his rights for now.

Canadiens Keeping Options With Logan Mailloux, Make Bona Fide Offer

Montreal Canadiens general manager Kent Hughes confirmed earlier this week that he would not be negotiating a contract with former 1st round pick Logan Mailloux, but that doesn’t mean he’s planning on losing the player for nothing next summer. Sources within the Canadiens organization have...

montrealhockeynow.com

Or so they say Hughes confirmed.

 

[bsl]

I don't know the guy personally. Seems to me when he had his issues in Sweden most ex-teammates asked about him said something in interviews like "he's not a terrible human being but he's not too swift" and many scouts say "great tools, no toolbox." Googling for that specifically I find a bit of a wider range, but I don't think I found anyone that was positive about Mailloux's decision making on or off the ice.

I'm not sure anyone is accusing him of being a Fischer-level idiot, but maybe a bit below average for a non-school hockey player?

Do you have inside knowledge or more trustworthy reports that he's a bright kid?

What the f*** do you know about this kid. I don't. Let's see how he does. It is tough to be in his shoes. God. Your rap. LOL. You know f*** all. I know f*** all.

 

[bsl]

So Habs quietly tendered him an offer so as to keep his rights for now.

Canadiens Keeping Options With Logan Mailloux, Make Bona Fide Offer

Montreal Canadiens general manager Kent Hughes confirmed earlier this week that he would not be negotiating a contract with former 1st round pick Logan Mailloux, but that doesn’t mean he’s planning on losing the player for nothing next summer. Sources within the Canadiens organization have...

montrealhockeynow.com

Or so they say Hughes confirmed.

Huh? Are you reporting that they are releasing him? Please be more clear.

 

[bcv]

Huh? Are you reporting that they are releasing him? Please be more clear.

Click on the article and find the answer to your question.

 

[muzion]

I do remember reading a former coach saying Mailloux is a 16 year old kid, with the maturity of someone who's 14.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

So Habs quietly tendered him an offer so as to keep his rights for now.

Canadiens Keeping Options With Logan Mailloux, Make Bona Fide Offer

Montreal Canadiens general manager Kent Hughes confirmed earlier this week that he would not be negotiating a contract with former 1st round pick Logan Mailloux, but that doesn’t mean he’s planning on losing the player for nothing next summer. Sources within the Canadiens organization have...

montrealhockeynow.com

Or so they say Hughes confirmed.

Wat....

Since when do you have to tender offers to recently drafted players before the actual time of them becoming ufas/returning to the draft aside from ensuring you get the compensation pick?

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I don't know the guy personally. Seems to me when he had his issues in Sweden most ex-teammates asked about him said something in interviews like "he's not a terrible human being but he's not too swift" and many scouts say "great tools, no toolbox." Googling for that specifically I find a bit of a wider range, but I don't think I found anyone that was positive about Mailloux's decision making on or off the ice.

I'm not sure anyone is accusing him of being a Fischer-level idiot, but maybe a bit below average for a non-school hockey player?

Do you have inside knowledge or more trustworthy reports that he's a bright kid?

I would suggest that the level of articulation that this young man has exhibited in the interviews that I've watched belies any suggestion that he isn't bright.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

He will sign will us next year if he progresses well.

Why wouldn’t he? We only have Barron at RD for prospect. Petry and Savard are getting old.

Let’s be patient and I’m sure he will sign with us because I don’t think he wants the negative spotlight a second time.

In the world of hockey, Petry and Savard are already old.

 

[dcyhabs]

What the f*** do you know about this kid. I don't. Let's see how he does. It is tough to be in his shoes. God. Your rap. LOL. You know f*** all. I know f*** all.

Is he a personal friend or something? He has his strengths and weaknesses like all players and the site is for discussing them. Few people here are professional scouts so don’t expect perfect knowledge. I hope he does well, and at least plays this season. So far he hasn’t played a lot due to his decisions so I wouldn’t consider his decision making a strength.

 

[bcv]

Wat....

Since when do you have to tender offers to recently drafted players before the actual time of them becoming ufas/returning to the draft aside from ensuring you get the compensation pick?

Since always, it seems.

The game is full of little technicalities like that that most of us don’t even know.

 

[26Mats]

I do remember reading a former coach saying Mailloux is a 16 year old kid, with the maturity of someone who's 14.

This is where development comes in.

Some kids need more developing in certain areas. Sergei Kostitsyn is one that I suspect could have used more off ice mentoring.

You put in the extra work and development in areas of need with prospects if you want to bring out the best in their talent...

 

[ChesterNimitz]

The kid himself asked not to be drafted. So the NHL should have told teams not to draft him.

And what happens if a player states that he doesn’t want a particular team to draft him because of that team’s state’s or province’s level of crime, high tax rate, or restrictive social or language laws? Does the NHL then tell those affected teams not to draft the player? And we all know that has never happened before. Does the tail wag the dog?

 

[ottawa]

And what happens if a player states that he doesn’t want a particular team to draft him because of that team’s state’s or province’s level of crime, high tax rate, or restrictive social or language laws? Does the NHL then tell those affected teams not to draft the player? And we all know that has never happened before. Does the tail wag the dog?

That's a quite different scenario, in this case the kid is asking every team to not draft him and in your example he's asking specific teams...it's quite literally all or nothing vs I want to be a UFA before I eve get drafted.

Are you being obtuse on purpose or do you not understand that?

 

[Fixxer]

It's kinda sad that Habs GM Kent Hughes decided to part ways with Stud Defenseman Logan Mailloux. He has a great hockey future ahead of him. It reminds me of the Montreal team giving up on Zach Kassian for "non-hockey related" motives, before he even played a single game for the Habs.

 

[Licou]

It's kinda sad that Habs GM Kent Hughes decided to part ways with Stud Defenseman Logan Mailloux. He has a great hockey future ahead of him. It reminds me of the Montreal team giving up on Zach Kassian for "non-hockey related" motives, before he even played a single game for the Habs.

That is not what is happening at all...

 

[Matthew McConaughay]

It's kinda sad that Habs GM Kent Hughes decided to part ways with Stud Defenseman Logan Mailloux. He has a great hockey future ahead of him. It reminds me of the Montreal team giving up on Zach Kassian for "non-hockey related" motives, before he even played a single game for the Habs.

I don't think he will, he knew him, before before he got GM.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

That's a quite different scenario, in this case the kid is asking every team to not draft him and in your example he's asking specific teams...it's quite literally all or nothing vs I want to be a UFA before I eve get drafted.

Are you being obtuse on purpose or do you not understand that?

Obtuse? Hardly, as my point is rather clear. All professional style drafts are, by their nature, prima facie, in violation of both common law and statutory provisions prohibiting anti-trust and restraint of trade actions. The moment that you allow any participant to deviate from the exclusionary rules granted sports leagues, the system will come tumbling down. Forget about the players. What happens if a team next year, anxious to sign Bedard, two weeks before the draft, signs him to a professional contract? The league will move to sanction the team's actions and void the contract as being in breach of the league's governing rules. The player could then take action against the league for infringing on his right to sell his services on the open market. It's the Curt Flood case all over again. You should look it up. Or perhaps it may be too obtuse for you.

 

[CHwest]

It's kinda sad that Habs GM Kent Hughes decided to part ways with Stud Defenseman Logan Mailloux. He has a great hockey future ahead of him. It reminds me of the Montreal team giving up on Zach Kassian for "non-hockey related" motives, before he even played a single game for the Habs.

That is what you took out of that?

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Mailloux will get signed next offseason Habs management obviously wanna avoid the backlash and wait a year and say he improved has a human etc....

 

[ottawa]

Obtuse? Hardly, as my point is rather clear. All professional style drafts are, by their nature, prima facie, in violation of both common law and statutory provisions prohibiting anti-trust and restraint of trade actions. The moment that you allow any participant to deviate from the exclusionary rules granted sports leagues, the system will come tumbling down. Forget about the players. What happens if a team next year, anxious to sign Bedard, two weeks before the draft, signs him to a professional contract? The league will move to sanction the team's actions and void the contract as being in breach of the league's governing rules. The player could then take action against the league for infringing on his right to sell his services on the open market. It's the Curt Flood case all over again. You should look it up. Or perhaps it may be too obtuse for you.

Just no to everything, different scenario altogether.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Just no to everything, different scenario altogether.

Well, let us just agree to disagree and move on to other topics.

 

[1909]

Mailloux will get signed next offseason Habs management obviously wanna avoid the backlash and wait a year and say he improved has a human etc....

As a human, he was already more mature than Bergevin and Timmins who drafted him while he asked to not be drafted in 2021.

 

[Tyson]

Mailloux will get signed next offseason Habs management obviously wanna avoid the backlash and wait a year and say he improved has a human etc....

The longer they wait while he is maturing will bode well for both the player and management.
With the recent horrifying story that just came out about the 2018 World Junior team I think it is safe to say there are even bigger dirtbags amongst the ranks.
I hope Logan Mailloux has learned a valuable lesson.

 

[Canadienna]

If anything can sober someone up and force them to grow up its acknowledging their extremely poor decisions, and going through the adversity that comes with that.

If he is salvageable as a person and hockey player, this is the way to do it. I would bet he's quite a different person now than since this all started.

Something like that shapes who you become.

 

[26Mats]

If anything can sober someone up and force them to grow up its acknowledging their extremely poor decisions, and going through the adversity that comes with that.

If he is salvageable as a person and hockey player, this is the way to do it. I would bet he's quite a different person now than since this all started.

Something like that shapes who you become.

yes, this could be a blessing in disguise for him. i've heard others that have been watching him since he was young question his maturity on and off the ice. so hopefully he's maturing in both those domains.