Prospect Info: Logan Mailloux Part 3 The Only Hockey Talk Thread

nhlfan9191

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Its not even close to being the same…..like there’s zero link between the two.

And how they reacted to their incidents is a tale of two cities
The big problem I have with this is it doesn’t happen if Boston doesn’t stupidly do what they did and sign that psychopath. NHL is trying to save face. Mailloux did the things people were saying Mitch Miller would’ve had to do if he wanted redemption.
 
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I was against the pick and there's definitely reasons to be skeptical about Mailloux's intentions (like with Miller, his victim claims he never apologized), but at the end of the day the organization has at least been smart enough to go through the right process with him. He's under a microscope and if he makes it to the big leagues it'll have been because he did his time properly..

Whether or not he's a bad person is something beyond our judgment, but if he is judged to have properly served his punishment than he deserves a shot. The Bruins and Miller failed to respect the process.
 

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I was against the pick and there's definitely reasons to be skeptical about Mailloux's intentions (like with Miller, his victim claims he never apologized), but at the end of the day the organization has at least been smart enough to go through the right process with him. He's under a microscope and if he makes it to the big leagues it'll have been because he did his time properly..

Whether or not he's a bad person is something beyond our judgment, but if he is judged to have properly served his punishment than he deserves a shot. The Bruins and Miller failed to respect the process.
I wonder how many people under a similar microscope and level of scrutiny would have made it to the big leagues of their respective career paths?
 

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I was against the pick and there's definitely reasons to be skeptical about Mailloux's intentions (like with Miller, his victim claims he never apologized), but at the end of the day the organization has at least been smart enough to go through the right process with him. He's under a microscope and if he makes it to the big leagues it'll have been because he did his time properly..

Whether or not he's a bad person is something beyond our judgment, but if he is judged to have properly served his punishment than he deserves a shot. The Bruins and Miller failed to respect the process.
With Mailloux, it happened ONCE. He did apologize but not enough to the young lady's taste and request. While Miller was doing it on a daily basis....
 

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Here's my opinion on the subject:
I don't want to have an opinion on the subject.

I don't want to have a protect a kid and what he's done because I want his skills on the team and not lose a 1st round pick.
I don't want to have shit on the kid for what he's done as I don't have the real picture and I don't want to be the judge, jury and executioner.

I have a strong opinion about this: What a f***ing moron Bergevin is!!

We didn't needed all that kind of bullshit, it's one thing when you don't see it coming but even the kid didn't wanted to be drafted and verybody knew, it was fresh off the press.....f***, that GM was so stupid it's unbelievable!
 

ChesterNimitz

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How is Evander Kane allowed in the league? They're opening Pandora's box here.
The NHL’s arbitrariness and selectivity is truly breathtaking. If the NHLPA won’t act, the Canadiens have to take action to protect their player, who by all accounts has assiduously complied with all conditions imposed on him. They need a good lawyer. I know one.
 

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Seems like a joke reaction from the league. Craig MacTavish played after literally killing a woman.

Miller was an exception because he didn't even try to make amends.
Do you know about "Cancel Culture"? This term is often used by the right to explain things that they used to be able to do, but now cannot.

I think we need to look at this through a different lens.

If we applied the same logic that we are using today on what qualifies a player's ability to play or not in the NHL to players who played 20-30 years ago, it is likely that MANY would not be eligible to play today.

You know how there's this saying that a lot of people toss around "are you the same person you were 4 years ago as you are today?" Well why does this not apply to society as well? Humans are fluid, we change. So does what we expect from our society.

This means that you seriously CANNOT say "well 15 years ago, McTavish killed someone, so why is what Mailloux did worse??". Well that question has a simple answer: Because now we expect more from our players than we did when McTavish was playing. We expect more from our fellow human beings.

So the fact that the "rules of engagement" change is a good thing imo. Being under much harsher scrutiny today is a GOOD thing. We weren't there back then, but we are here now. And thus, we should expect different results than back then.
 

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Do you know about "Cancel Culture"? This term is often used by the right to explain things that they used to be able to do, but now cannot.

I think we need to look at this through a different lens.

If we applied the same logic that we are using today on what qualifies a player's ability to play or not in the NHL to players who played 20-30 years ago, it is likely that MANY would not be eligible to play today.

You know how there's this saying that a lot of people toss around "are you the same person you were 4 years ago as you are today?" Well why does this not apply to society as well? Humans are fluid, we change. So does what we expect from our society.

This means that you seriously CANNOT say "well 15 years ago, McTavish killed someone, so why is what Mailloux did worse??". Well that question has a simple answer: Because now we expect more from our players than we did when McTavish was playing. We expect more from our fellow human beings.

So the fact that the "rules of engagement" change is a good thing imo. Being under much harsher scrutiny today is a GOOD thing. We weren't there back then, but we are here now. And thus, we should expect different results than back then.

Edit: Now when it comes to consistency in their decision making, that is an ENTIRELY different ball game. We all know the NHL has NEVER been consistent and this is incredibly maddening.
 

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Can the NHL really keep this guy out or void is is contract because the is pass issue.

If yes, than what will happen with all the WJC players for the 2 incidents or player that might have had legal issue DUI/domestic disputes in the past, will they now be deem ineligible until the NHL clear them to play.
I find it hard to believe Gorton would sign Mailloux if he thought he couldn't play in NHL
 

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I wonder how many people under a similar microscope and level of scrutiny would have made it to the big leagues of their respective career paths?
Not a completely fair comparison since Mailloux benefited from counselling, redemptive resources, a protective environment and a media spokesperson helping him navigate the roughest waters and carefully scheduled his public appearances among the help provided, all of it organized and paid for by the Habs.

Chances are, someone in another industry “under a similar microscope and level of scrutiny” would get nowhere near the level of support Mailloux was afforded. Of course, these other individuals could still seek out their own resources to help redeem themselves but chances are they would have to put on a ton more effort for services that are of a whole other calibre and frequency.

Mailloux followed all that was asked of him to a tee, as per Chantal Macchabée. Mailloux deserves credit for keeping his end of the bargain and for taking full advantage of the second chance he received.
 
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Seems like a joke reaction from the league. Craig MacTavish played after literally killing a woman.

Miller was an exception because he didn't even try to make amends.
Different times back then. Google was not around and lots of stories would be tossed under the rug, only to resurface years later. Some would do it out of spite to tarnish someone's reputation, while other's were simply sailing through life never being held accountable for their past indiscretions until it was time they paid up. Bottom line, your reputation matters. Think twice.

Kassian, who had a prior assault charge, crashed a car into a tree while intoxicated and somehow a young woman was accused for being under the influence. Heatley killed his fellow teammate. Richards was arrested with oxycodone at the border, and was allowed to play again. Not to mention the Bertuzzi incident. The NHL wants to clear its image. Second chances are a thing of the past.
 
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