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He has a lot of translatable tools on offense. He really needs to make his defense a priority as he gets more comfortable, because if he does his upside is quite high.
Prospect Info: Logan Mailloux Part 3 The Only Hockey Talk Thread
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He has a lot of translatable tools on offense. He really needs to make his defense a priority as he gets more comfortable, because if he does his upside is quite high.
Crazy thing he has played like 22 OHL games total
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Sadly, you see his inexperience on defense. But on offense, wow he's like a seasoned vet for sure.
Not that I'd recommend it. But with some time, he could be a good forward if he wanted too. Agreed, hopefully the team continues to work with him on defense. The more I see him play, the more I think he's going to be something special.
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I watched the game last night and I would say that Mailloux’s overall game continues to grow. His offensive awareness is impressive. He sees the ice well and anticipates plays and has the skill to take advantage of them. His wrist shot is elite and he will be able to overpower goalies at the next level. He made several offensive rushes but his end to end skill was not as noticeable this game as it was in previous games. Defensively he was able to seal off rushes by timely pinches and he used his great reach to frustrate several offensive thrusts. He will have to work on his lateral skating ability as he still has trouble closing off opposing forwards who challenge him on the rush going wide on him. Mailloux played in all high leverage situations: power play, penalty killing, last minute of periods, etc. as it is clear that he is Hunter’s go to player on the defence. As I previously noted, one of Mailloux’s most impressive abilities is his first past. He can pass the puck with laser like precision across two zones. Its a thing of beauty to watch. Mailloux can already pass the puck better than most NHL defencemen. This kid’s quite a prospect whose combination of size, skating, shooting and passing ability will have a huge impact on the team’s fortunes going forward.
On a separate note, I watched Mailloux’s teamate, defenceman Isaiah George, play his first game of the season yesterday. I was extremely high on George’s potential when I watched him last year. I’m surprised that the Canadiens’ management when watching and keeping tabs on Mailloux’s development didn’t have the same view of this player’s potential. For some reason he fell to the islanders in the fourth round. They got the proverbial steal as I think George was a high second round talent. Not moving up to grab George as he fell will, in my opinion, prove to have been a huge lost opportunity.
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He’s a good one. Let him play for now. The defense will come.
Great write up. Exactly as I've seen mailloux. He gets beat wide quite easily. If he can just improve that it will close one gap.
Glad to see George back. This team is so deep on D. Sam Dickinson will be something special as well!
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Regrettably, for us and 30 other teams, George will soon be regarded as a huge lost opportunity.
Another player that impressed me last night was Erie’s Cary Terrance. This kid skates like Holloway and plays a strong physical game. He’s a heck of a prospect and, if like George, he falls in next year’s draft, I’m moving up aggressively to grab him.
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Playing hockey is the main priority this season for him in my book. He just needs to be in all situations and get as many reps as possible against that level of competition. We all know he'll probably spend a decent amount of time in the AHL/ECHL next, he'll have plenty of time to catch up on the more technical stuff if he has the brain for it. In 22-23 I just want him to be on the ice, period.
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Guys with immense raw skill like mallioux can often times overcome any IQ, defensive awareness issues they may have with their natural physical talents. A guy like Burns was never the best defensively, but because he is just so talented he can make up for it. If his gap control and positioning are off he helps make up for it with his physical traits. I’m not one bit concerned about Mailloux that way.
The only thing that concerns me is that he hasn’t played a lot of hockey and has a bit of ground to make up. He oozes raw skill and physicality. The defence could end like Subban, doesn’t look the most technical and puzzles the analytic crowd, but shows him as above average. I think Maillioux will be similar, too many attributes to not get better.
The only thing that concerns me is that he hasn’t played a lot of hockey and has a bit of ground to make up. He oozes raw skill and physicality. The defence could end like Subban, doesn’t look the most technical and puzzles the analytic crowd, but shows him as above average. I think Maillioux will be similar, too many attributes to not get better.
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Well said.
One big difference between Mailloux and Subban is that Mailloux is a much better skater than Subban. Once he bulked up, Subban lost all of his dynamic skating ability. That loss of skating ability greatly reduced his effectiveness and is the principal reason why he’s now out of the league. As Mailloux gets older and fills out his frame he will get stronger and faster. We haven’t yet seen the pinnacle of his skating ability. One thing is certain, Mailloux has the best first pass of any Montreal prospect since or before Subban. That passing ability will be a real weapon for the team in the future.
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malcb33
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You didn’t directly compare Mallioux to Burns, but the more I read about him (I haven’t seen him play much) the more he sounds like stylistic comparison to Burns (in his SJ days). Is that realistic?
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Another strong showing by Mailloux, a very strong all around game, keep it up kid!
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Claiming that a dman can cover for IQ deficiencies with raw skill is a real stretch unless the deficiencies are relatively minor.
Burns is probably not a great example as his IQ is not an issue, he takes calculated gambles where he believes the reward outweighs the risk and he is correct far more often than he is wrong.
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His gap control and pivots still are in need of serious work but he has so little experience that it should not be unexpected. We should just be patient and let him work through it this season. I do wonder if he will be sent back as an overager next season just because he has played so few games and may not be ready for the pro game.
I like that he spent so much time with the big club this summer and hopefully some of the concepts that were introduced to him will really start to manifest themselves in his game moving forward.
Patience is certainly the key with this kid.
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Burns has and always had huge inefficiencies on the defensive end. He makes up for it with his raw attributes and has most of his career.
Maillioux is a baby who has missed ample amounts of hockey. He has plenty of time to improve on the defensive end. He’s got raw tools and size advantages that a smaller, purely offensive guy doesn’t have. Maillioux won’t be withheld from being a nhl regular because of his defense.
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Can't see him here in London next year. It would be a waste of a year.
The challenge won't be there. Even now, physically he is far n away past almost everyone in the O (Skating, shot, passing, O awareness......and agreed with all above, his D needs work) He will have outgrown the O by year's end.
The challenge this year is 50-55+ games ( hopefully 70+
Gotta put some miles on those tires to break em in.
I unfortunately don't have access to his overall play but @ChesterNimitz has posted some detailed in game performances info.
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I couldn’t watch the game last night but I did record it and will watch it today. I’ll post my assessment of Mailloux’s performance and other related matters later today. The Mailloux watch continues.
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My observations and analysis:
After watching the game I continued to observe the metamorphosis in Mailloux's game from a largely free wheeling player who was prepared to take chances both offensively and defensively to a much more disciplined if not traditional defenseman. Mailloux is now clearly the Knights' number one defenceman and logged an enormous amount of ice time including playing the first minute and half of each power play and penalty kill. He has become a rock in the defensive zone and at this level of play has clearly demonstrated that he can easily seal off offensive attacks with a combination of his skating, physical play and his long reach.
Mailloux showed that he can clear his zone by either skating the puck out or by making one of his laser like first passes to open teammates that he identifies with his excellent on ice vision. As I noted earlier, his passes are a thing of beauty. They are long, hard and flat. This is a skill that can't be taught. Unfortunately, Mailloux's current teammates have difficulty in receiving these incoming missiles, as they lack this basic and under appreciated skill. When Mailloux reaches the Canadiens, this limitation will not be as pronounced as he will be passing to ultra talented players like Suzuki and Caufield. It should be a joy to watch. Think Mahomes passing to Hill.
On power plays, it is obvious that opposing teams know and fear Mailloux's shot from the point and key their defence on taking away his shot. Owen Sound did a good job during the game as Mailloux had his attempted shots blocked on several occasions.
There's no question in this observer's opinion that Mailloux continues to protect his surgically repaired shoulder and does not attempt to throw big body checks but relies on his anticipation, smothering skating ability, positioning and active stick to defend effectively.
Mailloux played an efficient and effective game but he was not as noticeable or impactful as in previous games. With most defencemen, similar to offensive tackles in football, its a good thing when you don't notice them. But for a defenceman that supposedly will be making his mark in the NHL based on his offensive abilities, Mailloux had a comparatively quiet game. He wasn't pushing the play with his end to end rushes. Nor was he getting his overpowering shot through with enough regularity. And when Mailloux is unnoticeable, I notice.
Nevertheless, Mailloux remains a great prospect who possesses the necessary elite skills to be an impactful player at the next level. A future power play comprised of Maiiloux, Hutson, Slafkovsky, Caufield and Suzuki will be fun to watch.
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