Prospect Info: Logan Mailloux Part 3 The Only Hockey Talk Thread

[HuGort]

My observations and analysis:

After watching the game I continued to observe the metamorphosis in Mailloux's game from a largely free wheeling player who was prepared to take chances both offensively and defensively to a much more disciplined if not traditional defenseman. Mailloux is now clearly the Knights' number one defenceman and logged an enormous amount of ice time including playing the first minute and half minutes of each power play and penalty kill. He has become a rock in the defensive zone and at this level of play has clearly demonstrated that he can easily seal off offensive attacks with a combination of his skating, physical play and his long reach.

Mailloux showed that he can clear his zone by either skating the puck out or by making one of his laser like first passes to open teammates that he identifies with his excellent on ice vision. As I noted earlier, his passes are a thing of beauty. They are long, hard and flat. This is a skill that can't be taught. Unfortunately, Mailloux's current teammates have difficulty in receiving these incoming missiles, as they lack this basic and under appreciated skill. When Mailloux reaches the Canadiens, this limitation will not be as pronounced as he will be passing to ultra talented players like Suzuki and Caufield. It should be a joy to watch. Think Mahomes passing to Hill.

On power plays, it is obvious that opposing teams know and fear Mailloux's shot from the point and key their defence on taking away his shot. Owen Sound did a good job during the game as Mailloux had his attempted shots blocked on several occasions.

There's no question in this observer's opinion that Mailloux continues to protect his surgically repaired shoulder and does not attempt to throw big body checks but relies on his anticipation, smothering skating ability, positioning and active stick to defend.

Mailloux played an efficient and effective game but he was not as noticeable as in previous games. With most defencemen, similar to offensive tackles in football, its a good thing when you don't notice them. But for a defenceman that supposedly will make his mark in the NHL based on his offensive abilities, Mailloux had a comparatively quiet game. He wasn't pushing the play with his end to end rushes. Nor was he getting his overpowering shot through with enough regularity. And when Mailloux is unnoticeable, I notice.

Nevertheless, Mailloux remains a great prospect who possesses the necessary elite skills to be an impactful player at the next level. A future power play comprised of Maiiloux, Hutson, Slafkovsky, Caufield and Suzuki will be fun to watch.

I watched a game last year, looked like a poor man's Dougie Hamilton. Probably #2 NHL d-man. big, physical right D with heavy shot

 

[Goldenhands]

My observations and analysis:

After watching the game I continued to observe the metamorphosis in Mailloux's game from a largely free wheeling player who was prepared to take chances both offensively and defensively to a much more disciplined if not traditional defenseman. Mailloux is now clearly the Knights' number one defenceman and logged an enormous amount of ice time including playing the first minute and half minutes of each power play and penalty kill. He has become a rock in the defensive zone and at this level of play has clearly demonstrated that he can easily seal off offensive attacks with a combination of his skating, physical play and his long reach.

Mailloux showed that he can clear his zone by either skating the puck out or by making one of his laser like first passes to open teammates that he identifies with his excellent on ice vision. As I noted earlier, his passes are a thing of beauty. They are long, hard and flat. This is a skill that can't be taught. Unfortunately, Mailloux's current teammates have difficulty in receiving these incoming missiles, as they lack this basic and under appreciated skill. When Mailloux reaches the Canadiens, this limitation will not be as pronounced as he will be passing to ultra talented players like Suzuki and Caufield. It should be a joy to watch. Think Mahomes passing to Hill.

On power plays, it is obvious that opposing teams know and fear Mailloux's shot from the point and key their defence on taking away his shot. Owen Sound did a good job during the game as Mailloux had his attempted shots blocked on several occasions.

There's no question in this observer's opinion that Mailloux continues to protect his surgically repaired shoulder and does not attempt to throw big body checks but relies on his anticipation, smothering skating ability, positioning and active stick to defend.

Mailloux played an efficient and effective game but he was not as noticeable as in previous games. With most defencemen, similar to offensive tackles in football, its a good thing when you don't notice them. But for a defenceman that supposedly will make his mark in the NHL based on his offensive abilities, Mailloux had a comparatively quiet game. He wasn't pushing the play with his end to end rushes. Nor was he getting his overpowering shot through with enough regularity. And when Mailloux is unnoticeable, I notice.

Nevertheless, Mailloux remains a great prospect who possesses the necessary elite skills to be an impactful player at the next level. A future power play comprised of Maiiloux, Hutson, Slafkovsky, Caufield and Suzuki will be fun to watch.

Agree on almost all points, great post. Only thing I would like Mailloux to do better is firing pucks with a bit more precision than power. Otherwise last 2-3 games have been very strong, even in his own end, but I still see some plays where he should go on the guy behind the net instead of staying in front of his crease when the crease is already properly defended. Also, as @WeThreeKings pointed out, his stick work on the PK, always trying to block the lanes with his stick low wont work at the higher levels, players are too good and will flip pucks over his stick easily. Nothing really concerning that cant be fixable though.

 

[Wateredgarden]

Playing hockey is the main priority this season for him in my book. He just needs to be in all situations and get as many reps as possible against that level of competition. We all know he'll probably spend a decent amount of time in the AHL/ECHL next, he'll have plenty of time to catch up on the more technical stuff if he has the brain for it. In 22-23 I just want him to be on the ice, period.

I agree with everything, but Mailloux will never play in the ECHL.

 

[Chadstudsky]

I'm assuming he won't get an invite to the WJC, but on a purely hockey standpoint would he make the team?

 

[WeThreeKings]

I'm assuming he won't get an invite to the WJC, but on a purely hockey standpoint would he make the team?

I don't think so. Not enough track record recently for him to play above guys who have represented Canada at other competitions and have had good seasons in their respective leagues.

Maybe because the right side is weak.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I agree with everything, but Mailloux will never play in the ECHL.

There aren't many precedents for his path to the pros. There's a possibility he won't even have 100 major junior games of experience under his belt, so it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing to have him start in the ECHL for a few months. I'm not ruling out the option, at least, he's really raw and he'll need some time, even in the best case scenario.

 

[Tyson]

There aren't many precedents for his path to the pros. There's a possibility he won't even have 100 major junior games of experience under his belt, so it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing to have him start in the ECHL for a few months. I'm not ruling out the option, at least, he's really raw and he'll need some time, even in the best case scenario.

With 24 OHL games to this point its not a stretch that he could play in the OHL next season or perhaps ride the bus in the ECHL next season.
Alot of amateurs coming out of junior are not ready for AHL competition.

Remains to be seen.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I'm assuming he won't get an invite to the WJC, but on a purely hockey standpoint would he make the team?

I think Mailloux is an elite prospect but with only 24 OHL games over the past two season I still don’t believe he’s in top game shape yet. Somewhat of a disturbing suggestion for opposing teams.

 

[Supersonic]

I think Mailloux is an elite prospect but with only 24 OHL games over the past two season I still don’t believe he is top game shape yet. Somewhat of a disturbing suggestion for opposing teams.

I appreciate your posts and analysis in this thread a lot so thank you. Do you think he ends up in the NHL or AHL next year? And do you think conditioning will be a or the contributing factor?

I’m only thinking out loud that he may not have the physical conditioning to handle an 82 game NHL season. But, I too am intrigued by Mailloux

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I appreciate your posts and analysis in this thread a lot so thank you. Do you think he ends up in the NHL or AHL next year? And do you think conditioning will be a or the contributing factor?

I’m only thinking out loud that he may not have the physical conditioning to handle an 82 game NHL season. But, I too am intrigued by Mailloux

Thank you for your kind words.

Its always difficult to forecast any young players’ development timetable. Things can happen suddenly. Some for the good and others for the bad. In my current position, which requires me, inter alia, to supervise the selection of elite midget aged hockey players for national level championships, I have seen some players who dominate at age 15/16 only to become invisible at age 17. Others, experience unexpected growth in performance and overall potential.

Scrape away all the controversy, and Mailloux presents as an intriguing prospect: a combination of size, skating ability and skill. A virtual prototype for today’s mobile defenceman.

However, when one considers the accumulated time that he has missed over the past two years, it is probable that, at the very least, Mailloux will start next season in the AHL . If he stays healthy , I could see Mailloux being called up to the big team before the end of next season . Once up, Mailloux will be in Montreal to stay.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

My observations and analysis:

After watching the game I continued to observe the metamorphosis in Mailloux's game from a largely free wheeling player who was prepared to take chances both offensively and defensively to a much more disciplined if not traditional defenseman. Mailloux is now clearly the Knights' number one defenceman and logged an enormous amount of ice time including playing the first minute and half of each power play and penalty kill. He has become a rock in the defensive zone and at this level of play has clearly demonstrated that he can easily seal off offensive attacks with a combination of his skating, physical play and his long reach.

Mailloux showed that he can clear his zone by either skating the puck out or by making one of his laser like first passes to open teammates that he identifies with his excellent on ice vision. As I noted earlier, his passes are a thing of beauty. They are long, hard and flat. This is a skill that can't be taught. Unfortunately, Mailloux's current teammates have difficulty in receiving these incoming missiles, as they lack this basic and under appreciated skill. When Mailloux reaches the Canadiens, this limitation will not be as pronounced as he will be passing to ultra talented players like Suzuki and Caufield. It should be a joy to watch. Think Mahomes passing to Hill.

On power plays, it is obvious that opposing teams know and fear Mailloux's shot from the point and key their defence on taking away his shot. Owen Sound did a good job during the game as Mailloux had his attempted shots blocked on several occasions.

There's no question in this observer's opinion that Mailloux continues to protect his surgically repaired shoulder and does not attempt to throw big body checks but relies on his anticipation, smothering skating ability, positioning and active stick to defend effectively.

Mailloux played an efficient and effective game but he was not as noticeable or impactful as in previous games. With most defencemen, similar to offensive tackles in football, its a good thing when you don't notice them. But for a defenceman that supposedly will be making his mark in the NHL based on his offensive abilities, Mailloux had a comparatively quiet game. He wasn't pushing the play with his end to end rushes. Nor was he getting his overpowering shot through with enough regularity. And when Mailloux is unnoticeable, I notice.

Nevertheless, Mailloux remains a great prospect who possesses the necessary elite skills to be an impactful player at the next level. A future power play comprised of Maiiloux, Hutson, Slafkovsky, Caufield and Suzuki will be fun to watch.

Great post Chester.

I'm assuming he won't get an invite to the WJC, but on a purely hockey standpoint would he make the team?

Imo, without any doubt.

 

[calder candidate]

Can the NHL really keep this guy out or void is is contract because the is pass issue.

If yes, than what will happen with all the WJC players for the 2 incidents or player that might have had legal issue DUI/domestic disputes in the past, will they now be deem ineligible until the NHL clear them to play.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Can the NHL really keep this guy out or void is is contract because the is pass issue.

If yes, than what will happen with all the WJC players for the 2 incidents or player that might have had legal issue DUI/domestic disputes in the past, will they now be deem ineligible until the NHL clear them to play.

The NHL wants to see signs of the person on the right track. Mailloux is on the right track but they will want to see more. He's being watched and it's how it should be.

The other kid the Bruins signed made his mistake at age 14 right? What has he done since then? Is he humble or not. Has he taken programs to better himself? I'm not sure.

 

[admiralcadillac]

I have trouble routing for this guy. The Mitchell Miller saga will also colour his fate.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I have trouble routing for this guy. The Mitchell Miller saga will also colour his fate.

It won't.. Mailloux has done the right things all along and started before he was ever selected. The Canadiens regime has also put conditions on him earning a contract and signed him this summer.

I was against the pick as anyone else was.. but I also believe in second chances when warranted.

Mitch Miller is a psycho piece of shit with no remorse who is continually trying to shortcut his way around learning, growing and taking responsibility.

Not to mention the giant chasm between what Mailloux did and what Miller did. They both caused harm to their victims but there's just a world of difference here and there's a huge difference between the two individuals.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I have trouble routing for this guy. The Mitchell Miller saga will also colour his fate.

I prefer not to tie them together. Both are horrible mistakes but each person makes mistakes they get caught for (or not). It's the behavers after the mistake is where we need to focus.

We don't live in a hang the guy after they make a mistake era anymore. That was a long time ago. People need a chance to improve and adjust.

 

[MXD]

Not to mention, the deal has already been signed for a while.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I have trouble routing for this guy. The Mitchell Miller saga will also colour his fate.

There are very few parallels between them, outside of the general '' both did something bad'' sense. One was a dumb jock teenager without supervision and the other is a borderline legitimate real life sociopath. It would be painting things with a very broad brush to lump the two together.

 

[admiralcadillac]

There are very few parallels between them, outside of the general '' both did something bad'' sense. One was a dumb jock teenager without supervision and the other is a borderline legitimate real life sociopath. It would be painting things with a very broad brush to lump the two together.

Of course. I’m not comparing the incidents. What Mailloux did isn’t on the same level and isn’t even illegal here… not that I approve of it.

I was disappointed with the media coverage which essentially labelled him a severe sexual abuser.

In any case its not about what he did but I’m surprised that I find myself not really caring about his future and not wanting to cheer for him. Very weird.

 

[Mrb1p]

Im very vocal about a lot of things but Mailloux made a stupid mistake at a young age and accounted for it.

MM showed he had bad morals for several years, not even close.

 

[jaffy27]

I have trouble routing for this guy. The Mitchell Miller saga will also colour his fate.

Its not even close to being the same…..like there’s zero link between the two.

And how they reacted to their incidents is a tale of two cities

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Of course. I’m not comparing the incidents. What Mailloux did isn’t on the same level and isn’t even illegal here… not that I approve of it.

I was disappointed with the media coverage which essentially labelled him a severe sexual abuser.

In any case its not about what he did but I’m surprised that I find myself not really caring about his future and not wanting to cheer for him. Very weird.

Mailloux may never make it to the next level so it's probably best not to think about it too much at the moment IMO. There's still a long road ahead and he'll have to keep being on his best behavior all the way . It's up to him to ''win'' people like you and I back in the end. I'm giving him a chance. Miller on the other hand can go f*** himself so hard he becomes a singularity as far as I'm concerned.

 

[eklund the clown]

Im very vocal about a lot of things but Mailloux made a stupid mistake at a young age and accounted for it.

MM showed he had bad morals for several years, not even close.

I always say give anyone a second chance IF they show remorse and change their ways .Logan has and continues to do so. Miller on the other hand from what i just read is nothing but a piece of crap.

Isaiah Meyer-Crothers Mitchell Miller racist bullying Boston Bruins | TSN

Isaiah Meyer-Crothers, the victim of racist bullying by NHL prospect Mitchell Miller, released a statement via the Hockey Diversity Alliance on Wednesday.

www.tsn.ca

 

[Kimota]

There are very few parallels between them, outside of the general '' both did something bad'' sense. One was a dumb jock teenager without supervision and the other is a borderline legitimate real life sociopath. It would be painting things with a very broad brush to lump the two together.

Agreed. There's no comparison between Miller and Maillloux. One commited abuse lasting freaking 7 years. The other did something bad accounting for probably 5 seconds, snapping a picture that he sent to his friends.

 

[1909]

Mailloux will have to justify himself with the NHL brass before being allowed to play... While there is possibly half a dozen (or more) NHL players who are making millions after having gang-raped a young women (or women) when in Junior !

Mailloux may never make it to the next level so it's probably best not to think about it too much at the moment IMO. There's still a long road ahead and he'll have to keep being on his best behavior all the way . It's up to him to ''win'' people like you and I back in the end. I'm giving him a chance. Miller on the other hand can go f*** himself so hard he becomes a singularity as far as I'm concerned.

"May".... I would say he has more than 50% chance to make it.