Prospect Info: Logan Mailloux Part 3 The Only Hockey Talk Thread

[MarkovsKnee]

Of course, Mailloux is also currently not eligible to play in NHL because he's playing in OHL, like all junior age players who get sent back to their teams. I mean even Owen Beck isn't currently eligible to play in NHL, so who the f*** knows what that tweet means.

It should be noted that Mailloux was signed months ago with NO issues from the NHL. He was also part of all of our camps and even practiced with the Canadiens prior to being sent to London - with no issues.

So, yeah, this is just NHL posturing due to the Miller f***-up, and the medias on-going public prosecution of Mailloux.

 

[Lshap]

It looks like Mailloux's biggest crime is being in the same sport at the same time as Miller. The only thing that links the two is proximity. Nothing else is similar. Unlike Miller, nothing that Mailloux did was hateful or long lasting. The intent and the person appear to be completely different. Ridiculous that Mailloux is being brought up as an equivalent.

 

[Twisted Sinister]

Jesus effing H Christ, Bettman.

 

[Rob Sense]

This is crazy. Equating taking a picture of the top of a 18 year old's head (no face or body) and showing it to older teammates by a 17 year old is not the same as what Miller and the sexual assault charges against Hockey Canada. Not in the same ballpark. Not condoning but please will he carry this "sentence" for life??? Compared to the other cr*p that current and former players did this is like comparing jaywalking to armed robbery or murder!! This kid will need psychiatric help forever because of the overblown reaction. Let him play hockey...calisse!

 

[rik schau]

It looks like Mailloux's biggest crime is being in the same sport at the same time as Miller. The only thing that links the two is proximity. Nothing else is similar. Unlike Miller, nothing that Mailloux did was hateful or long lasting. The intent and the person appear to be completely different. Ridiculous that Mailloux is being brought up as an equivalent.

Logan did a stupid thing as many have,but it became public unfortunately.

 

[calder candidate]

The biggest issue I have with Mailloux (beside the lack of judgement in that action) is the fact that it seem the victime only wanted a sincere apologie and it seem like she didn’t get it or got it too late… and for a very short time before it was public there was a narrative that she was trying to take him down but it took accountability. she didn’t create this, he did it and some one out on is own team call it out… the other factor was it was a consensual act although the picture wasn’t that the girl could not be identified from the picture the only way she was identified was that he also posted a social media profile (not trying to minimize is action it is still wrong)… To me that is clearly a young guy trying to brag, probably the kind of thing that is rampant in the CHL it isn’t right but hopefully this is a opportunity for change.
Mailloux took responsibility he didn’t have too come out, the situation would never have been public if he didn’t. He received is sentence and took some steps.

Miller even if he was young, is action we’re over a long period of time, bulling someone with a disability and being a super racist… picking on the weakest even when he was told to stop, he double down, even now is agent is trying to put a narrative out there that he is sorry but at the same time down playing some issues or trying to excuse some of is act… Maybe he can change but too me he was reprimanded, disciplined, suspended, when to court, is draft stock fell, drafted but they renounce the pick, multiple colleges revoked there offers… he didn’t make the minimum effort to try to change, apologize properly or even take full responsibility at any point (parent probably have to share some of the blame) even when is action were negatively affecting is life, career and future he didn’t try to change he either double on the bad behavior or tried to ignore it, so too me this isn’t the case of a kid making a mistake like Mailloux.

 

[calder candidate]

I actually don't know if they legally can since he was a minor.

Pretty sure that when GB said they need is approval to play the NHLPA layer was like WTF is he talking about… Can wait to see what down the pipe for the players involved in the 2 WJC incident that we know of.

 

[Lshap]

Logan did a stupid thing as many have,but it became public unfortunately.

Mailloux's actions were juvenile and thoughtless, but it was a one-off. He didn't intentionally do it to cause the girl harm. Miller's actions were ongoing and deliberately targeted to do harm.

 

[rik schau]

Mailloux's actions were juvenile and thoughtless, but it was a one-off. He didn't intentionally do it to cause the girl harm. Miller's actions were the opposite.

I hope you're not naive to think only youngsters do what he did,it's very common. What the other POS did is not comparable.

 

[Lshap]

I hope you're not naive to think only youngsters do what he did,it's very common. What the other POS did is not comparable.

Trust me... I'm well aware that acting juvenile is not limited to juveniles.

 

[rik schau]

Trust me... I'm well aware that acting juvenile is not limited to juveniles.

This site backs you up.lol

 

[Matthew McConaughay]

Remember the title of this thread, The Only Hockey Talk Thread.

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[jaffy27]

Fair enough for your opinion. But Kuznetsov had to face some kind of sanction. I don't recall what it was. I think he was injured at the time and went to substance abuse counseling.

Also Mailloux used social media to share it with his buddies, and it ended up getting out further than he wanted it to - which is one of the Rangers on posting anything online.

I was unaware he shRed it on social media….i thought he just showed his buddies off his phone.

Ya, uploading those type of pics on a social media platform is a big no no

Thanks

Anyways, I’m still a fan of his, especially after his accountability of his actions and the steps he took in making sure it will never happen again.

Remember the title of this thread, The Only Hockey Talk Thread.

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You’re right….back to hockey

 

[Twisted Sinister]

This site backs you up.lol

What're you talking about? We're all the best adults here. 10/10 adulting.

 

[Habs]

The most important word there is "currently". He's not perma banned. It just means NHL is going to give him some hoops to jump through in order to play at that level, and maybe even the AHL will too. I imagine the AHL leadership will want to interview Mailloux before he can play in that league.

I have full confidence in Mailloux to represent himself well in any interviews. I also expect he'll be able to come up with letters of recommendations from volunteer groups that he's worked with over the last 2 years, and show the work that he's done to grow as a person.

If the AHL/NHL do their due diligence faithfully, and if Mailloux has put in the work that he said he has then things should go well for him.

This is just media factored hysteria. There's certain elements in the media who will never let this drop, who don't care if a person has gone through restorative justice, and should be given a second chance, they just want to get clicks/likes.

The OHL approved him to play based on several conditions after their investigation. I expect the same to happen with AHL and NHL.

the nhl trying to look all high and mighty, yet they allow elbows to the head without impunity and Tkachuk to stick his blade in Quicks mask, and attempt an ocular surgery. Its comical the hypocrisy in the NHL.

 

[Schooner Guy]

Do you think Bettman personally approves each contract? Or talks to each team about the prospective moves?

Some people are getting worried over nothing. Mailloux will have a list to things he has done since the court case above and beyond court ordered stuff. If I was Mailloux I would make sure I did right by the victim if it hasn't been done yet. That would be the only hang up I could see.

Do you think nobody brought this contract to Bettman's attention? The Bruins talked to Bill Daly about it before submitting to Central Registry and Bruins owner Jeremy Jacobs has been Bettman's puppet master since he became commish.

The messaging from both the Bruins and the NHL was completely out of sync because they're both tone deaf.

Back to Mailloux, as long as he steers clear of trouble, he'll be fine. Many NHLers have had intimate pics on their phones which they haven't kept to themselves (as wrong as it is). Not many NHL players terrorized a child with fetal alcohol syndrome for seven years and then had a complete inability to even attempt to show any remorse.

 

[Runner77]

This is obviously because of the Bruins and the Miller situation. Or else, the NHL wouldn't consider this in the case of Mailloux.

After the Bruins signed Miller, the league immediately took a stance. Mailloux signed his ELC in a little over month ago. They didn't make a comment about that then. They only make their comment now because of Boston and Miller.

However, Mailloux has taken the necessary steps on and off the ice every step of the way He served his penance in the OHL when they suspended up for half the season. So if the NHL decides he needs to be approved by the league, he will do what is necessary to get the green light.

Also, unlike the Bruins, the Habs did their due diligence before they signed Mailloux. They had him spend most of the summer in Montreal with players and members of the organization, as well as be with the guys at rookie camp and then main camp so they can see for themselves the type of person he is and the progress he's made.

Whereas Boston simply signed the player. They didn't spend months learning about what type of person he's become. They even spoke to their leadership group and they said not to sign him. And then you have their President of Hockey Ops come out and does a dog and pony show.

The Habs did their work before everything. Boston did their work after everything.

To be fair, the Habs added several resources as well as implement a culture change only after the backlash that ensued from drafting Mailloux.

I suspect the Bruins will learn a similar lesson and modernize their methods and add new personnel.

 

[Whitesnake]

Yes, he needed the backlash to happen, yet, Mailloux HIMSELF asked to NOT be drafted. Before a team took him under their wings. It was ALREADY a sign of remorse and maturity.

I was against the pick. But I have no idea how Mailloux can be pronounced in the same sentence as Miller. No freakin idea.

 

[BJCOLLINS]

Wow, the halo’s & saints on this board? Some people have godlike ego’s when it comes to their opinion. Have you read the legal case notes? The sentencing report? The rehabilitation case notes? Adolescent boys & young men have been making terrible choices since time immemorial…. are they accountable, yes. Should they be retried & sentenced by uninformed strangers years later????? Not if you believe in integrity and authenticity.

I’m enjoying reading posters updates on Logan in London. I think he’s at a ppg, with lots of upside. He’s gonna have to live with the consequences of his actions for ever, however it’s disingenuous to offer a second chance then…… renege on it.
Cheers

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Interesting that now Uncle Gary decides he should signal his virtue by bringing up Mailloux.

Nothing was said by the league post draft or post signing. Only now after the Miller explosion.

People are quick to forget these are children. The same people that want to believe in the system rehabilitating criminals want to cast these young men aside for mistakes they’ve made as children.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Interesting that now Uncle Gary decides he should signal his virtue by bringing up Mailloux.

Nothing was said by the league post draft or post signing. Only now after the Miller explosion.

People are quick to forget these are children. The same people that want to believe in the system rehabilitating criminals want to cast these young men aside for mistakes they’ve made as children.

Agreed although the Miller situation in infinitely more serious and he will have to commit to improving himself and become a leader at the forefront of the anti-bullying movement. Anything less and Miller should not be under consideration for anything NHL related.

The garbage that deserve punishment are Miller's wretched parents.......I seriously wish harm on people like them. I hope that family is ostracized and marginalized by society to the utmost extent.

 

[ZUKI]

This is obviously because of the Bruins and the Miller situation. Or else, the NHL wouldn't consider this in the case of Mailloux.

After the Bruins signed Miller, the league immediately took a stance. Mailloux signed his ELC in a little over month ago. They didn't make a comment about that then. They only make their comment now because of Boston and Miller.

However, Mailloux has taken the necessary steps on and off the ice every step of the way He served his penance in the OHL when they suspended up for half the season. So if the NHL decides he needs to be approved by the league, he will do what is necessary to get the green light.

Also, unlike the Bruins, the Habs did their due diligence before they signed Mailloux. They had him spend most of the summer in Montreal with players and members of the organization, as well as be with the guys at rookie camp and then main camp so they can see for themselves the type of person he is and the progress he's made.

Whereas Boston simply signed the player. They didn't spend months learning about what type of person he's become. They even spoke to their leadership group and they said not to sign him. And then you have their President of Hockey Ops come out and does a dog and pony show.

The Habs did their work before everything. Boston did their work after everything.

Bettman is great at doing political announcements. Mailloux for him is just a way to show " look how great my league is and how i work hard to preserve the NHL of the bad boys. See , we( means ME ) took the time to be sure that the kid's respected our rehabilitation program "

In fact, Bettman will call Hugues for a 2 minutes call, to say hello and inquirer if Habs are ok with Mailloux.

 

[Schooner Guy]

The garbage that deserve punishment are Miller's wretched parents.......I seriously wish harm on people like them. I hope that family is ostracized and marginalized by society to the utmost extent.

Unfortunately the Miller parents and their social circle ostracized and marginalized the victim's family and blamed them for wrecking Mitchell's chances of an NHL career. Relentless bullying from multiple generations of Millers.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Of course, Mailloux is also currently not eligible to play in NHL because he's playing in OHL, like all junior age players who get sent back to their teams. I mean even Owen Beck isn't currently eligible to play in NHL, so who the f*** knows what that tweet means.

It should be noted that Mailloux was signed months ago with NO issues from the NHL. He was also part of all of our camps and even practiced with the Canadiens prior to being sent to London - with no issues.

So, yeah, this is just NHL posturing due to the Miller f***-up, and the medias on-going public prosecution of Mailloux.

All corporate decisions and pronouncements must viewed in the context of the Hockey Canada fiasco and their consequent loss of government funding and corporate sponsorships. There is a lot of posturing and fleeing to the high ground going on in the sports world.

 

[cphabs]

Thank you!