Prospect Info: Logan Mailloux Part 3 The Only Hockey Talk Thread

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Agreed. There are few defencemen that are perfect. Most have some deficiencies/weaknesses. Mailloux's defensive shortcomings, while noticeable, are, like most things on boards like this, exaggerated. For example, against the Devils, was he a greater defensive liability than Xhekaj? In assessing any young player you look at the total package and where growth/development is necessary. And whether such growth is probable. In Mailloux's case we have an intriguing prospect whose offensive skills are already NHL level. With any growth, these skills will become elite level. If and when that happens, I doubt his defensive deficiencies, whatever they are, will preclude him from being an impact player at the next level. Such is his offensive upside. As I have said, the idle talk of trading this young, promising player borders on complete folly.

Yeah like even though you could see the defensive lapses they didn’t seem too egregious or unworkable. I was very heartened to see that.

Every time I’ve seen him this preseason/camp he’s been a net positive and by a good margin. You can see the room for improvement. I’ve been fairly cautious with my projections of him but seeing is believing. Enormous upside and doesn’t seem like a long shot. Inspired pick.

 

[Matthew McConaughay]

Mailloux has gain a lot since that first game in rookie camp. Not going to be long before he in NHL. Trade deadline at latest.

He gets better in each and every game.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

It's funny...ever since he's been drafted all we've heard about was how bad he is defensively.

I haven't watched a ton, but I do think that his defensive deficiencies are largely narrative-based.

When you're told player A has a specific weakness, it's hard to see anything else after awhile.

He's got some warts in his game, which is normal...especially for a player who hasn't played a ton.

But I don't see anything that's going to be insurmountable.

Consensus is an evil mistress.

 

[Scriptor]

Pretty sure Mailloux doesn't make the Habs' lineup out of camp, but he could be an early call-up...

 

[BLONG7]

Pretty sure Mailloux doesn't make the Habs' lineup out of camp, but he could be an early call-up...

A year down in the A would be great for this kid...........Roy, Mailloux, Kidney, Beck, all of these kids will benefit from going down for the year....so much to learn and develop slowly.

Edit....Beck may have to go back to Jr?

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

A year down in the A would be great for this kid...........Roy, Mailloux, Kidney, Beck, all of these kids will benefit from going down for the year....so much to learn and develop slowly.

Edit....Beck may have to go back to Jr?

Beck does.

I'd tell him to do the opposite of Suzuki and work on his O game.

Give Maillou 2, or 3 pre-season games and send him down with others who are close and let them (hopefully) tear up the A

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Beck does.

I'd tell him to do the opposite of Suzuki and work on his O game.

Give Maillou 2, or 3 pre-season games and send him down with others who are close and let them (hopefully) tear up the A

Agreed. With respect to Mailloux, we will have a much clearer idea as to his potential this time next year. If he takes that needed development step in the AHL, he will make the team next year with ease. I think he will and become a core defenceman for this team ( along with Reinbacher and Hutson) for the ensuing decade.

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

Agreed. With respect to Mailloux, we will have a much clearer idea as to his potential this time next year. If he takes that needed development step in the AHL, he will make the team next year with ease. I think he will and become a core defenceman for this team ( along with Reinbacher and Hutson) for the ensuing decade.

I agrée thé À would be ideal for him. I’d also add Guhle to that stable. He’s a stud

 

[Vachon23]

I don’t think Guhle is gonna be a good partner for Mailloux since he’s gonna face other teams top lines and I really don’t want Mailloux against those lines

Maybe someone like Harris/Struble on a 2/3rd pair would be a better fit

 

[Destopcorner]

The most Brent Burns prospect i've ever seen. Burns got better defensively over the years but his early days were bumpy as hell... With the missed games, Mailloux is seasons away from being good enough without the puck imo. Physical attributes don't lie tho, he's a BEAST.

He will be one crazy power forward if he doesnt make it at D except on PPs... He has great offensive IQ mix with confident truculence and man that wrist shot is something else.

 

[Skip Bayless]

I believe his defensive shortcomings are exaggerated by some people, specially when we have guys like Harris and Barron who constantly get hemmed into their own end and outmuscled. Xhekaj is no defensive stalwart either.

Mailloux has very specific weaknesses, but so far in camp, he's been a net positive despite his flaws.

 

[Destopcorner]

I believe his defensive shortcomings are exaggerated by some people, specially when we have guys like Harris and Barron who constantly get hemmed into their own end and outmuscled. Xhekaj is no defensive stalwart either.

Mailloux has very specific weaknesses, but so far in camp, he's been a net positive despite his flaws.

Needs to pivot 2 times faster or else he's a pylon off the rush. Will benefit from a couple of AHL seasons with top minutes and skating lessons. Lots of video too. But thats about it... The tools are all there for us to see and I love his attitude on the ice. Gotta say it now, what a pick by Bergy.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

His reads are still very bad at times but he is improving and I think that he has a chance to be a very good dman at the NHL level at some point in his future.

I don't know wtf he was thinking on the Leaf's second goal but his decision was that of an entirely lost player, not just a miscalculation. His decision had nothing to do with the goal being scored but would have been a huge problem if there was a rebound or another pass.

He has shown enough improvement during this camp to suggest that he has the brains to eventually figure out how to be an NHLer but he is further away than many on here believe. His best showings this summer have been against god awful lineups and there is no doubt in my mind that he needs significant time in the AHL. This is true for every dman his age who is not an absolute prodigy so no reason to get upset about it but he will need to take some huge steps to threaten for a roster spot to start the season or to be called up early in the season.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

We have the perfect partner for Mailloux in Guhle, and the perfect partner for Hutson in Reinbacher

 

[Skip Bayless]

Needs to pivot 2 times faster or else he's a pylon off the rush. Will benefit from a couple of AHL seasons with top minutes and skating lessons. Lots of video too. But thats about it... The tools are all there for us to see and I love his attitude on the ice. Gotta say it now, what a pick by Bergy.

Yes, that is one of his main flaws, and totally fixable. I'm ok with sending him to the AHL in order to work on those flaws while further validating his offensive prowess. I just find some people are being extra harsh on him. He's one of those prospects who is really under the magnifying glass.

 

[le_sean]

We have the perfect partner for Mailloux in Guhle, and the perfect partner for Hutson in Reinbacher

I don’t know. Guhle is so good at jumping in the play at the right time. That’s literally the only thing that Mailloux does that’s good. I wouldn’t want Guhle to hold himself back because his partner is untrustworthy.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

We have the perfect partner for Mailloux in Guhle, and the perfect partner for Hutson in Reinbacher

I disagree with Reinbacher/Hutson as Reinbacher will be playing against the NHL's elite and Hutson will likely be sheltered 5 vs 5 on the third pairing.

Guhle - Reinbacher has all the makings of an elite shutdown/1st D pairing imo.

I think a player like Xhekaj would be a great partner for Mailloux as would Engstrom, Struble or Harris.

 

[Skip Bayless]

His reads are still very bad at times but he is improving and I think that he has a chance to be a very good dman at the NHL level at some point in his future.

I don't know wtf he was thinking on the Leaf's second goal but his decision was that of an entirely lost player, not just a miscalculation. His decision had nothing to do with the goal being scored but would have been a huge problem if there was a rebound or another pass.

He has shown enough improvement during this camp to suggest that he has the brains to eventually figure out how to be an NHLer but he is further away than many on here believe. His best showings this summer have been against god awful lineups and there is no doubt in my mind that he needs significant time in the AHL. This is true for every dman his age who is not an absolute prodigy so no reason to get upset about it but he will need to take some huge steps to threaten for a roster spot to start the season or to be called up early in the season.

I thought it was mostly miscommunication between him, Roy and Beck who should've permutated to D instead of just standing there watching the play evolve.

 

[Habitant#1]

I don’t know. Guhle is so good at jumping in the play at the right time. That’s literally the only thing that Mailloux does that’s good. I wouldn’t want Guhle to hold himself back because his partner is untrustworthy.

I don't know that I agree that Mailloux is good at jumping into the play.

He certainly has al the physical tools to do it well, but he doesn't seem to do it at the right time and he tends to get tunnel vision when he activates.
People talk about his defensive game a lot, but even his offensive vision and decision making isn't very good. He really needs to work on his vision and reads.

He has so many good physical tools: skating, shooting, strength, but he really doesn't have much of a toolbox both offensively and defensively.

Of all the Habs' best prospects, he's the first I would offer in a trade. I think his physical tools carried him in junior and his value is high from pumped up junior stats. I think he can absolutely become and NHLer, but it's going to take a lot of AHL time and his value will fall during this time.

I'm not at all opposed to keeping him either, but I think he's a high risk of busting, despite having also having an extremely high ceiling. He's the very definition of a high risk, high reward prospect.

 

[Skip Bayless]

We have the perfect partner for Mailloux in Guhle, and the perfect partner for Hutson in Reinbacher

Hutson will be traded to the Guangdong tigers for draft picks, Konyushkov is going to cross the Atlantic and win his first of three Norris trophies in 2027.

 

[Mudz]

I thought it was mostly miscommunication between him, Roy and Beck who should've permutated to D instead of just standing there watching the play evolve.

yup. First mistake is Harris. Part execution, part decision. The chip to Mailloux was better choice.

Then is clearly unorthodox but Bech is checking air so Mailloux acts. Ylonen is puck watching.

Weakish goal by Primeau.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

I thought it was mostly miscommunication between him, Roy and Beck who should've permutated to D instead of just standing there watching the play evolve.

He joined the group from below, it was junior level peck watching.

 

[ReimanSum1908]

I believe his defensive shortcomings are exaggerated by some people, specially when we have guys like Harris and Barron who constantly get hemmed into their own end and outmuscled. Xhekaj is no defensive stalwart either.

Mailloux has very specific weaknesses, but so far in camp, he's been a net positive despite his flaws.

Exactly the opposite; Harris is among the best defensive defensemen on the team, typically making smart, effective plays with the puck that take it out of dangerous positions while also maintaining possession.

He's the best defensive defenseman on the team, generally, and was dominant on first entering the league when paired with Savard.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Exactly the opposite; Harris is among the best defensive defensemen on the team, typically making smart, effective plays with the puck that take it out of dangerous positions while also maintaining possession.

He's the best defensive defenseman on the team, generally, and was dominant on first entering the league when paired with Savard.

Harris loses every puck battle known to man when the opponent has decent forecheck. He is weak and wont last in the NHL for long if he doesn't fix this as he doesn't have the offensive contribution to compensate for being hemmed into his own end for 70% of his ice time. He's going to become a human shield and block about 10 slap shots per game. He is the new Josh Gorges.

I truly pray every night for Harris sunshine brigade.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Needs to pivot 2 times faster or else he's a pylon off the rush. Will benefit from a couple of AHL seasons with top minutes and skating lessons. Lots of video too. But thats about it... The tools are all there for us to see and I love his attitude on the ice. Gotta say it now, what a pick by Bergy.

Yeah that lack of explosiveness might be the most glaring thing. What impresses me is that it hasn’t hampered him as much as it probably could have so far.

So good at keeping the puck on his stick with his hands and size and he’s only going to get better at that.

For how little he’s played, it’s really impressive how well his development has gone so far. I fully expected him to struggle more this camp/preseason. Kid’s clearly been putting in work.