Proposal: Lindholm and Rakell trade discussion thread for Anaheim.

[nilssont]

I am so sick of this bs wish they would sign already so the team can get rolling.

 

[ayrton2388]

I'm really, really not surprised that RamsNDucks turned out to be Ducksgo....

 

[Nordic*]

Lindholm + 3rd to Columbus for Jones and Wennberg.


Rakell to Rangers for Miller + 3rd.


Done deal.

 

[oStealthKiller*]

Might as well said you have no interest in trading for Lindholm because that doesn't come close to getting us trading Lindholm especially to a division rival.

Idk what u guys want. I thought centre was secure and that u needed cheap bodies on the wing. I provide two cheap wingers and pouliot would do extremely well with Getz/perry. I added the two picks for value reasons and ur cap can't absorb much if any more salary after this with rakell I'd imagine. I don't share the common resentment HF does for griffin, so I viewed it as a top defensive prospect added in to allow a long term fill on the left side(yes, I think Reinhart will be a top 4 dman one day)

 

[paine]

Do the Ducks match a 4 1sts OS?

Absolutely.

 

[Vipers31]

Idk what u guys want. I thought centre was secure and that u needed cheap bodies on the wing. I provide two cheap wingers and pouliot would do extremely well with Getz/perry. I added the two picks for value reasons and ur cap can't absorb much if any more salary after this with rakell I'd imagine. I don't share the common resentment HF does for griffin, so I viewed it as a top defensive prospect added in to allow a long term fill on the left side(yes, I think Reinhart will be a top 4 dman one day)

Those are all secondary pieces. You saw the kind of asset you had to move to get someone like Larsson - those types don't come around for a collection of B-assets. Start with something that actually physically hurts, and go from there - is what would usually be what I'd suggest, but even that isn't going to go too far in regards to Lindholm

 

[WesMcCauley]

Lindholm + 3rd to Columbus for Jones and Wennberg.


Rakell to Rangers for Miller + 3rd.


Done deal.

I would do Rakell for Miller straight up as a NYR fan. They are as extremely similar when it comes to production both on AHL and NHL level so far. Only difference is that Miller is left handed and Rakell right handed and NYR could need another RH shot.

 

[oStealthKiller*]

Those are all secondary pieces. You saw the kind of asset you had to move to get someone like Larsson - those types don't come around for a collection of B-assets. Start with something that actually physically hurts, and go from there - is what would usually be what I'd suggest, but even that isn't going to go too far in regards to Lindholm

Yes but Larsson was under a cheap contract and jersey had no reason to move him.

I understNd and appreciate lindholm's value, but if he didn't have an issue(money) the ducks wouldn't be entertaining trading him.

In light of that one must consider the money Issue in proposing a trade. If I had a nylander to offer as a centre piece I would. Sadly the oilers don't

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Yes but Larsson was under a cheap contract and jersey had no reason to move him.

I understNd and appreciate lindholm's value, but if he didn't have an issue(money) the ducks wouldn't be entertaining trading him.

In light of that one must consider the money Issue in proposing a trade. If I had a nylander to offer as a centre piece I would. Sadly the oilers don't

There has been zero indication that the Ducks have entertained moving Lindholm.

 

[dracom]

Yes but Larsson was under a cheap contract and jersey had no reason to move him.

I understNd and appreciate lindholm's value, but if he didn't have an issue(money) the ducks wouldn't be entertaining trading him.

In light of that one must consider the money Issue in proposing a trade. If I had a nylander to offer as a centre piece I would. Sadly the oilers don't

Lindholm isn't asking for an adsorbent amount of money, he wants north of 6 million but under 7 million, so a team like the Oilers could easily sign him. The Ducks could easily sign him as well, but with Rakell needed to be re-signed as well it's made things more difficult.

That doesn't reduce his value to a bunch of meh to terribly useless pieces for us. Especially when it's a divisional rival that has need a potential #1 D for years now. Ducks aren't in the business of helping the Oilers defense problem.

 

[oStealthKiller*]

Lindholm isn't asking for an adsorbent amount of money, he wants north of 6 million but under 7 million, so a team like the Oilers could easily sign him. The Ducks could easily sign him as well, but with Rakell needed to be re-signed as well it's made things more difficult.

That doesn't reduce his value to a bunch of meh to terribly useless pieces for us. Especially when it's a divisional rival that has need a potential #1 D for years now. Ducks aren't in the business of helping the Oilers defense problem.

I know you'd prefer, say a nylander + first for him, I was just seeing if I met your needs could something be worked out cuz we don't have a nylander. Clearly it will not and I understand why

 

[oStealthKiller*]

There has been zero indication that the Ducks have entertained moving Lindholm.

Smoke, fire, fowler still on team, etc

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Smoke, fire, fowler still on team, etc

Every single report discusses the Ducks trying to sign him, except for the one's that shoot down any trade speculation. Not sure where this smoke is you speak of.

Fowler is still on the team because Lindholm isn't signed. If he holds out into the season we need Fowler.

 

[Vipers31]

I understNd and appreciate lindholm's value, but if he didn't have an issue(money) the ducks wouldn't be entertaining trading him.

There is absolutely zero reason to believe the Ducks are entertaining trading him.

EDIT: I see that was already said, almost verbatim. Also, there is no smoke in regards to entertaining the idea. They aren't done negotiating a long-term deal. That's no indication of them remotely willing to trade him.

 

[dracom]

I know you'd prefer, say a nylander + first for him, I was just seeing if I met your needs could something be worked out cuz we don't have a nylander. Clearly it will not and I understand why

Don't think I would move Lindholm for Nylander+1st anyways. That 1st will end up being a mid to late first if they add Lindholm to their defense.

 

[johna2626]

How on earth does Anaheim sign both of these guys? They only have 7.5 million in cap space, right? And isn't Anaheim a budget team?

Everyone wants to give their lowball offers for Trouba, but where are the lowball offers for these two? It actually looks like one of them has to go. Lindholm could probably take up 7.5 by himself

 

[fsanford]

Absolutely.

I dunno. 4 firsts would be hard to turn down.
Ducks are pretty solid team in the draft department. I think you take the 4 firsts.

 

[dracom]

How on earth does Anaheim sign both of these guys? They only have 7.5 million in cap space, right? And isn't Anaheim a budget team?

Everyone wants to give their lowball offers for Trouba, but where are the lowball offers for these two? It actually looks like one of them has to go. Lindholm could probably take up 7.5 by himself

I think this season we are a cap team, at least that's the sound of it. And if we end up waiting till the start of the season, Thompson goes on LTIR for like 5-6 months, so we get a little cap space room to get them both signed.

Oh, there's been plenty of low ball offers for Lindholm and Rakell. Just a bunch of quantity for quality.

 

[Vipers31]

I dunno. 4 firsts would be hard to turn down.
Ducks are pretty solid team in the draft department. I think you take the 4 firsts.

Not really hard to turn down, at all, given the team's situation. They are drafting well, but they are also aware of the primes of their key offensive players. Can't even think about letting a guy with Lindholm's current impact go for assets that won't even start contributing by the time those players are past it.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

Here's a bit of a wild one:

:

LD Oscar Klefbom, C/W Leon Draisaitl

:

LD Hampus Lindholm, RW/C Rickard Rakell

Ducks downgrade from Lindholm to Klefbom, who is still a solid young defender signed to a team-friendly contract for several seasons. However, they upgrade from Rakell- a likely career middle-six center/winger- to Draisaitl, who has already played in the role of a #1C but can also slot in at either wing effectively.

Oilers new lines:

Lucic-McDavid-Eberle
Pouliot-RNH-Rakell

Lindholm-Larsson
Nurse-Sekera

Ducks:

Draisaitl-Getzlaf-Perry
Cogliano-Kesler-Silfverberg

Fowler-Despres
Klefbom-Vatanen

Both teams benefit from the flexibility of their newly-obtained forwards; once Ritchie is ready in Anaheim, he knocks Draisaitl known to the 2C spot to feast on lesser competition while allowing an aging Ryan Kesler to play primarily defensive match-ups. Likewise, after Puljujarvi gets acclimated to NA, he takes over the RW spot from Rakell, who becomes an ideal third-line center for the Oilers.

 

[dracom]

Interesting offer for sure, and not the worst one, good pieces going each way. That said, I still wouldn't do it though. Just don't see us sending Lindholm to the Oilers.

 

[Ducks DVM]

Smoke, fire, fowler still on team, etc

So, if you trade one of the two top pairing defensemen on the team, what do you think that does for the leverage for the other guy, who is currently refusing to sign a contract because he wants more money?

Fowler isn't on the team because they are trading Lindholm, Fowler is on the team because he's a good player and allows management to play a waiting game as opposed to being forced to give Lindholm whatever he wants.

 

[TOGuy14]

As a Leaf fan I would make one of Marner / Nylander available for Lindholm as the start of a package.

If we could swing a Rielly / Lindholm top pairing for the next decade i would be sooooo happy.

 

[TOGuy14]

Don't think I would move Lindholm for Nylander+1st anyways. That 1st will end up being a mid to late first if they add Lindholm to their defense.

You think Hampus Lindholm adds an additional 25-30 points to a team, 12-15 wins?

May as well sign him to a max deal then, he is Jesus

 

[dracom]

You think Hampus Lindholm adds an additional 25-30 points to a team, 12-15 wins?

May as well sign him to a max deal then, he is Jesus

Yeah, probably. Toronto has plenty of incredible young forwards coming up. Adding Lindholm would help their blue line tremendously. Add in that Freddy is your goalie now, and with Babcock coaching; Toronto would get very good very quickly if they got Lindholm.

Not sure why Toronto fans seem to believe they'll be in the basement for years getting a ton of 1st round picks and then suddenly get great.