GDT: Let the Free Agency Madness begin

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Do something damn it. I'm drunk.....again..

All right, fine. If you want something done you have to go do it yourself. I’m going in and coming back with something big.

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LakeLivin

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Anything is possible but he is on league minimum and played very well. He would have to be carrying serious value inna deal for it to make any sense

Hadn't thought much about it until now, but don't those things that boost his value to the Canes also make him an attractive target as an add on to a perceptive potential trade partner as part of a bigger deal?
 
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I want to confess here, before you all, how much I love talking crap to fans of other teams about their bad contracts and cap mismanagement. I dream of taking the family to Vancouver just so my kids can watch me stand on a street corner and yell to nobody in particular about JT Miller and the OEL debacle until a local gives me a Canadian Dollar to shut up and leave them alone. That is me in my element.

But now I am worried that we're going to become what I despise, if this EK deal goes through. Even at 30% retained its a cap nightmare with sooooo much risk. The complete opposite of how we've run our team for the past 5 years.
 

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I want to confess here, before you all, how much I love talking crap to fans of other teams about their bad contracts and cap mismanagement. I dream of taking the family to Vancouver just so my kids can watch me stand on a street corner and yell to nobody in particular about JT Miller and the OEL debacle until a local gives me a Canadian Dollar to shut up and leave them alone. That is me in my element.

But now I am worried that we're going to become what I despise, if this EK deal goes through. Even at 30% retained its a cap nightmare with sooooo much risk. The complete opposite of how we've run our team for the past 5 years.
Seems a bit dramatic. The cap is very likely about to rise. If they get good retention, as would be expected, it's not likely to be any sort of cap killer and has the potential for tremendous upside. It's a better gamble than, say, Haula, Gardiner, and Dzingel for more combined cap during that five year period at one point. At least it's only one player at a position we can still likely backfill rather well given it's our strength and likely still will be after moving on from Pesce and/or Skjei.

I think we're also enough of a destination that we can get a cheap vet here or there and/or integrate some of our young guys that appear to be ready if we find ourselves in a difficult position with the roster and cap.

I also think any team can survive having one anchor contract. I think it's teams that sign to many of them that end up having to really worry, like San Jose. Given that it seems Aho and Slavin are the likely older players that will get long term contracts here, and they won't likely decline (if they do) until Karlsson is gone, I think we can navigate this pretty well.
 

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Seems a bit dramatic. The cap is very likely about to rise. If they get good retention, as would be expected, it's not likely to be any sort of cap killer and has the potential for tremendous upside. It's a better gamble than, say, Haula, Gardiner, and Dzingel for more combined cap during that five year period at one point. At least it's only one player at a position we can still likely backfill rather well given it's our strength and likely still will be after moving on from Pesce and/or Skjei.

I think we're also enough of a destination that we can get a cheap vet here or there and/or integrate some of our young guys that appear to be ready if we find ourselves in a difficult position with the roster and cap.

I also think any team can survive having one anchor contract. I think it's teams that sign to many of them that end up having to really worry, like San Jose. Given that it seems Aho and Slavin are the likely older players that will get long term contracts here, and they won't likely decline (if they do) until Karlsson is gone, I think we can navigate this pretty well.
I hear you and I know I'm in the minority here. I guess my concern isn't with the specifics of a potential EK acquisition and more with the paradigm shift that such a acquisition suggests is on horizon. I keep talking about our secret sauce - we really have two - cap flexibility and defensive excellence from virtually every position on the ice. And those sauces were basically enough to get us to the promised land last year, were it not for Bob. The risk is in the paradigm shift. In a vacuum, I can come to peace with an EK or TDA acquisition.
 

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What if the Canes change gears and trade for Logan Couture at 25% retained , who is being rumored as demanding a trade, for Pesce and maybe a plus
 
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What if the Canes change gears and trade for Logan Couture at 25% retained , who is being rumored as demanding a trade, for Pesce and maybe a plus
Two issues with that.

1 - I like Couture, but I'm in no way trading Pesce for him, especially if I have to add to it.
2 - If Pesce was willing to go to San Jose, the Karlsson trade might be done already.
 

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I hear you and I know I'm in the minority here. I guess my concern isn't with the specifics of a potential EK acquisition and more with the paradigm shift that such a acquisition suggests is on horizon. I keep talking about our secret sauce - we really have two - cap flexibility and defensive excellence from virtually every position on the ice. And those sauces were basically enough to get us to the promised land last year, were it not for Bob. The risk is in the paradigm shift. In a vacuum, I can come to peace with an EK or TDA acquisition.
Let's wait and see what happens before worrying about a "paradigm shift".

Burns, Pacioretty, Orlov, etc.. acquisitions....as well as potentially not re-signing Pesce and Skjei tells me that there's not going to be a paradigm shift. Will there be some exceptions? very likely, but I doubt the overall strategy of the front office changes much.
 
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