GDT: Let the Free Agency Madness begin

[Stickpucker]

yep, this is very much my concern about the approach we appear to be taking. we can either get an absolute game changer... or the biggest cap anchor in the league, and there REALLY is no inbetween.

 

[SlavinAway]

This is my worry, he's the ultimate sell-high candidate. Everyone getting hyper-focused on his career year last yeara is forgetting prior he averaged 8G, 30A in 53GP/year. Still solid production but not worth more than like $5-6M/yr

As opposed to buying high on players as the Borg has been they must really believe this wasn’t a fluke. I’m a bit nervous but they’ve earned the benefit of the doubt in my book.

 

[Stickpucker]

EK looking for the Ray Borque storyline....he's more Paul Coffey in him though

 

[WreckingCrew]

As opposed to buying high on players as the Borg has been they must really believe this wasn’t a fluke. I’m a bit nervous but they’ve earned the benefit of the doubt in my book.

I'd still much rather go after another scoring forward. I'm tired of watching our impotent offense whiff on easy shots, fail to get to any rebounds, and make blind passes. Also tired of watching nobody screen the goalie as he watches our defense take long bombs that either go off the players 2 ft in front of them, or sail to an unimpeded goalie.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I think at the end the deal is going to determine the feel of the move. But either way it will be a big risk for a guy we hope plays more than 70% of the games over the next 4 seasons.

I thought we had learned our lesson with trading own rentals and acquiring a puck mover to replace that own rental.

If we add one asset from the Pesce deal to acquire Karlsson at 30-40% retained, that will be acceptable i guess.

I would much prefer get a young scorer with our assets even if Karlsson may outscore that acquisition next season.

 

[Ole Gil]

1) It's been reported by Dreger (in the video up in this thread) that Pesce does not have SJ on his trade list, so he can't be traded there without him approving. Not sure why he'd approve to go from a cup contender to a bottom dweller. That doesn't mean Carolina can't trade Pesce somewhere else and then use those assets to send to SJ though.
2) I would think that the Ducks would want more than a 2nd round pick to retain 50% for 4 more years. If it was 1 year, then yeah, a mid-late round pick would suffice, but 4 years of a high dollar contract is a lot to ask of a team for only a 2nd.

He might approve it, because the basement dwellers trying to make the floor have money, and the contenders don't.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

He might approve it, because the basement dwellers trying to make the floor have money, and the contenders don't.

I think that the Canes will accomodate Pesce and actually send him to a team that wants to win games. Nashville or Edmonton, in my book. I don't think Toronto is at the point yet where they want to trade Nylander.

 

[Chan790]

We Can't Trade Skjei because we shouldn't be trading our left D for another Right D.

I have a suspicion that we're probably trading Skjei regardless.

We prefer to not play guys on their off-side if we can avoid it, he's not beating out Orlov or Slavin to keep a top-4 job, and he's rather expensive for a 3rd-pair LHD. We can better allocate that cap.

 

[Der Jaeger]

Sabres fan here. Any idea what teams are on Pesce’s list of who he’ll accept a trade to? Thanks

 

[Sigurd]

I'd still much rather go after another scoring forward. I'm tired of watching our impotent offense whiff on easy shots, fail to get to any rebounds, and make blind passes. Also tired of watching nobody screen the goalie as he watches our defense take long bombs that either go off the players 2 ft in front of them, or sail to an unimpeded goalie.

So, SO much this. All of this.

In an ideal world, Elias Pettersson or Auston Matthews would be available, and we make a blockbuster trade for one of them (especially with our surplus of defensemen which both of their respective teams need). A tier below those super-star players, and not even an all-star forward like Keller is available though; not surprisingly since they don't grow on trees.

Count me as one of those hoping Pettersson will be available at the trade deadline though (since someone else brought that up) after he requests a trade in his final year on a dumpster fire team. Long shot of us getting him though.

 

[Ole Gil]

I think that the Canes will accomodate Pesce and actually send him to a team that wants to win games. Nashville or Edmonton, in my book. I don't think Toronto is at the point yet where they want to trade Nylander.

If he wanted to win games, he'd have just resigned in Carolina. Man wants to get paid, and justifiably so, I think.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

He might approve it, because the basement dwellers trying to make the floor have money, and the contenders don't.

True, but basement dwellers can sign him in a year when he hits UFA. He doesn't have to want to go to one now.

Of course, I said the same about Skinner and was dead wrong on him.

 

[EXTRAS]

What cap hit do you guys expect Aho to come in at?

 

[SlavinAway]

What cap hit do you guys expect Aho to come in at?

My guess is 9.5; seen some rumors it could be slightly less though.

 

[SvechneJerk]

I'd still much rather go after another scoring forward. I'm tired of watching our impotent offense whiff on easy shots, fail to get to any rebounds, and make blind passes. Also tired of watching nobody screen the goalie as he watches our defense take long bombs that either go off the players 2 ft in front of them, or sail to an unimpeded goalie.

Assuming that we are indeed in pursuit of EK, the rumor that we basically had an agreement in place for Tarasenko (I forget who it was that released that info in the last day or so) means - to me, anyway - that we are intending to get a scoring forward, too. How they’re going about it achieving that now that he’s not an option, I don’t know.

 

[chaz4hockey]

If he wanted to win games, he'd have just resigned in Carolina. Man wants to get paid, and justifiably so, I think.

Well, he's made almost $27M to-date and probably at the low end will make another $25-30M going forward. How much more does one need?

If it was me, I'd select playing in a city I like, players I enjoy playing with and in particular a Coach I favor (let alone playing on a winning team is much more enjoyable than on a losing team). Thus, if I was with the Canes and met that profile I'd take a home team discount. Of course, that's me who is someone that doesn't believe that money should be the only aspect of one's work life.

btw: I wouldn't trade Pesce to the Oilers or any SC possible team.....

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Not sure if this was previously reported. The guy's profile says he's an Athletic contributor and amateur scout.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

That would make for an awkward prospect camp invite then. Why invite him if you knew you were trading him?

 

[Justicebork]

Maybe so he can turn in his PNC parking pass and laminated employee ID card

 

[raynman]

Hopefully they’ll call him a taxi once he gets to the practice facility and finds out

 

[chaz4hockey]

Not sure if this was previously reported. The guy's profile says he's an Athletic contributor and amateur scout.

I gather we will find out tomorrow.

 

[Lempo]

That would make for an awkward prospect camp invite then. Why invite him if you knew you were trading him?

Diversion. Or, distraction? One of those subterfuge thingies anyway.

 

[Stickpucker]

Assuming that we are indeed in pursuit of EK, the rumor that we basically had an agreement in place for Tarasenko (I forget who it was that released that info in the last day or so) means - to me, anyway - that we are intending to get a scoring forward, too. How they’re going about it achieving that now that he’s not an option, I don’t know.

Un ofre hostile

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

I like Rizzo, a long shot but he’s been great for Denver and where he was picked. Would rather we don’t trade him for TDA but it wouldn’t be super consequential if we did…

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

That would make for an awkward prospect camp invite then. Why invite him if you knew you were trading him?

Trade him then sign him August 15th.

They invited him to camp to get him in on this plan.