Leafs Offseason: Alot of big decisions, 17 key ones [Dubas(gone), Matthews, Marner, Nylander are biggies]

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Dreger: Shanahan and Leafs brass are 'eagerly waiting' a decision from Dubas - TSN.ca

At the end of the season, many thought the two scenarios for Leafs GM Kyle Dubas would be for Toronto to either fire him, or sign him to an extension. In his end of season media conference, Dubas revealed he might just step away and take some time off. TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger has the latest on the situation.
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Although it sounds radical, sometimes what you subtract from a team can solve problems faster than what you add. We think too much about what to add.

Subtraction is harder but way more effective than addition
 

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I really find the medias just love putting the Leafs in the spotlight. Leafs didnt steamrolled their way to the Cup after winning a round, lets break it all up, and rebuild, that headline lasted 2-3 days. Dubas and MLSE didn't announced they signed a new contract, Dubas is leaving, MLSE was shocked Dubas said whay he said at Press Conf., AM wants to sign a contract before next season, he is staying but at what price, JT asked he wants to stay, can't trade him bc he doesnt want to be traded, Keefe didn't resign, so it must mean he is staying.....
Anything can be turn into negatives by the medias.
I will bet that even if McD, and Josi gets traded to the Leafs tomorrow for JT and TJ plus picks. Maybe for the first day or two, it will be Leafs shocked the World with trades, great job by Dubas. But after the initial joy, it will be like are McD and Josi enough? Both players are great but they have not won a Cup yet. Why is Dubas not signed yet? Can we trust Keefe with this team for another season? Where is the new deal for AM and Willie? Could the Cap work?
 

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What team will you be chearing for if Dubas stays? Pretty sad to drop your fav team because of the GM.

I'd always cheer for the Leafs I just won't invest as much time on the Leafs as I have in the past. Everyone has a threshold of how much is too much,, my threshold of patience has been breached.

I cannot continue to support incompetence. To each their own I guess....
 

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I wouldn't be surprised to see Matthews become the league's highest paid player on a deal of longer term either. I felt more frustration with the lack of term from the previous contract than I did the AAV. It sounds as though this could be more of the same.

This time is makes sense for the Leafs to have a shorter term. Matthews is likely going to start declining in 4-5 years, so if he’s not demanding the 8 years, there’s no real reason to push for it.
 

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What is missing? Burning it all down actually makes sense, but not because this is a fix. It is just a necessity, The empirical evidence is in.

Many writers have commented on the fact that "something is missing" on this team. I would say, quoting Nirvana "something is in the way". Although it sounds radical, sometimes what you subtract from a team can solve problems faster than what you add. We think too much about what to add.

Changing the GM and the coach has to happen, because they have not achieved what they should, but on its own, that does not solve the problem. It really is about the players in the end.

This thought IS radical, but I believe that their main strength is the their main weakness: Matthews and Marner. I sometimes wonder about "the room" and how it works. I imagine M and M off on their own, certainly acting superior to all of the foot soldiers, acting functionally as a separate clique, checking what the are going to wear to the rink and making it sure it is a different colour, M and M are the poison on this team. They are well-intentioned, but their own contracts are the cause of the inability of the support troops to take the pressure off them. I also think there is a character issue, and you can laugh at how irrelevant it is, but.. it is not. I just think arrogance and attitude comes through, and I assume this is a split room, a two-class system, the lords and the serfs.

They need to move both Matthews and Marner now, and get back four 5 million dollar and young players, and think about distributing the talent, but most of all, make sure they care about winning in the end, more than partying in Muskoka.

Sorry, but we have to face it. Its over.
What if the biggest problem was Keefe? He had no history of coaching elite talent at any level. Nick Cousins, Jared McCann and Sergey Tolchinsky do not prepare you for the Big 3. His Calder Cup team was a bunch of plumbers. The kids came in with only a bit of Marleau as a mentor which is hardly the same as Sid living in Mario's basement. You are the rookie coach coming in to a bunch stinking rich 20 year olds who just got their last coach fired. Are you going to lay down the law or just let talent take its course?

And the boys are boys and have always been treated specially and all they needed to do was unleash their skill and everything was good. They aren't coach killers and I have never had the sense that they are free lancing every night but how often did they play a strong system and just choke the other club out? Well they actually have from time to time but you didn't see a trace of that in the Florida series until it was pretty much too late.

Given that SK has been a constant in the many failures I really think you need to see a different coach with different marching orders handle these guys before you write them all off. Unfortunately the coaching change will only be after the player movements.
 

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Give Dubas until the end of the week to make a decision then move on.
He's had all year considering the contract situation, they should have moved on immediately after his PC if it's true that it was a total curveball. I forget who said it but one of the "insiders" suggested brass offered him a deal last year and he bet on himself and wanted to wait, so it seems he's been the twig in the spoke this whole time.

This whole affair is looking more and more like this organization is a disorganized mess and no one runs the show or can agree on anything. It's a god damn joke now.

Take the day of or day after the PC, but today should have been the day for finality because there's already not enough time to move in a new GM to properly assess everything necessary for the draft, free agency, and trades.
 

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So where's this leave Keefe?

Surely to heavens this spells the end of Keefe if there's no Dubas. Absolutely no reason now we should have to deal with him next season.
Absolutely hope so but at the same time, GMs like to hold onto that bullet as long as they can right? If Dubas decides to leave (can't believe I'm even saying that ownership doesn't even know who the GM will be with the draft a month away), the spin might be the new GM is the only change needed and keeps his finger off the fire coach button
 

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This time is makes sense for the Leafs to have a shorter term. Matthews is likely going to start declining in 4-5 years, so if he’s not demanding the 8 years, there’s no real reason to push for it.
The possibility for decline exists, yes. That AAV of 12.7+ over a medium length term isn't going to be a great contract for the team though. In particular, this likely holds true if the representatives of his teammates use the contract as any kind of comparable.
 
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