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Leafs Offseason: Alot of big decisions, 17 key ones [Dubas(gone), Matthews, Marner, Nylander are biggies]
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Mirtle more so than Jonas, but both of them are generally pro-Dubas or pro-Leafs.
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Thanks for sharing that s/s, was wondering exactly who was up, knowing it was a good amount. ROR did not seem to indicate any interest in returning but he and Schenn are the only ones I'd want back, at discounts.View attachment 709730
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I hope to hell we are spared another minute of Kerfoot or Holl, use that 5.5m much better
Kerfoot is useful on a cheap deal. I'd like to move away from Holl and re-sign Schenn, maybe push Gio out and Brodie play the left.
ROR I have no interest in since he was terrible and will be overpaid.
Aciarri I'd like back for the 4th line, something like Lafferty - Holmberg - Acciari would have some forechecking ability, be defensively responsible, and has an offensive touch.
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Hopefully it's somewhere else.
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The only UFAs I want back are Schenn and Acciari. The weak UFA market will drive the prices too high to retain any of the others that might be worth keeping.
Our cap space could be put to better use.
Our cap space could be put to better use.
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I know Kerfoot has positive analytics, but our bottom six is too easily manhandled and he scored just 10 goals, really doesn't have any ability to drive offensive play and doesn't forecheck at all. We need to move away from players like that, too many of them and I prefer Lafferty over him for his bigger size and better physicality.
Acciari I do really like purely for his forechecking but man he is one helluva black hole offensively, he's got a very poor offensive skillset. If we could sign him for a few years around 1m or shorter term up to 1.25m and add some more actual offensive pop in the bottom six and then staple him to 4th line with at least one winger who "carry" the line with the puck but doesn't cost 3.5m then I'm all for him returning.
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I can't say the same quite as easily without knowing how the rest of the team might look.
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Interesting!
If true just goes on to show what ROR thinks of Leafs' chances of going deep in post season with this core.
Both CJ and Kypreos have come out and said he wasn’t crazy about his time here.
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If there is an ounce of truth to this... Thank you for your services Auston. Good luck with your new team (except against the Leafs when Leafs aren't tanking)
WOW. Any more story about why that might have been the case?
Media? Locker Room? Culture? Coach? Playing Role? Minutes? Anything else?
???
This is like Young and the restless. When the script unravels like this it makes you wonder are they acting?
I’ve been a supporter of leafs leadership, but how the heck does this situation happen?
This date should have been on their calendars when they signed the deals with Marner and Matthews, yet you willingly allow this to unfold? Wtf?
Should have signed Dubas last year, was always on the players, but now we have a gun to our heads by those same players.
I’ve been a supporter of leafs leadership, but how the heck does this situation happen?
This date should have been on their calendars when they signed the deals with Marner and Matthews, yet you willingly allow this to unfold? Wtf?
Should have signed Dubas last year, was always on the players, but now we have a gun to our heads by those same players.
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Probably all of the above. Marner playing with his Pokémon cards, Tavares eating his food through a straw and Dubas hangin out with his boys in the locker room, towel fight
As the owner of a business for the over 30 years, I would have a real problem with what Dubas is doing here, assuming of course that the media reports are true.
Assuming they are true, I look at this situation this way.
The context here is that I’m offering an employee, who has achieved what I would consider to be pretty average results, a contract extension for the job they are already doing. I’m moving forward on the premise that the employee’s performance will hopefully continue to improve with additional experience in the role. The position being offered is considered to be one of the most high profile and desirable positions in the industry, and I’m offering the employee a higher compensation package. Something I assume the Leafs are offering.
So on that basis, I make an offer and the employee’s response is to go public, tell other people, including other employees, that they’re not sure they want to continue in the role as it’s been very demanding, very taxing and that they will need extended time to think whether they want to commit to continuing in the role.
As an employer, I would hear and see that response and say; I would like to thank for your previous service as well as your consideration. However, I expected a much more enthusiastic and positive response to my offer. Given your comments about your reservations about continuing in the role, I’m going to have to politely withdraw my offer. I thank you for your previous service, but at this point I need to look for someone who is ready to fully embrace and commit to this opportunity and is enthusiastic to fill this role.
Thank you once again for your service and best of luck with your future endeavours.
Assuming they are true, I look at this situation this way.
The context here is that I’m offering an employee, who has achieved what I would consider to be pretty average results, a contract extension for the job they are already doing. I’m moving forward on the premise that the employee’s performance will hopefully continue to improve with additional experience in the role. The position being offered is considered to be one of the most high profile and desirable positions in the industry, and I’m offering the employee a higher compensation package. Something I assume the Leafs are offering.
So on that basis, I make an offer and the employee’s response is to go public, tell other people, including other employees, that they’re not sure they want to continue in the role as it’s been very demanding, very taxing and that they will need extended time to think whether they want to commit to continuing in the role.
As an employer, I would hear and see that response and say; I would like to thank for your previous service as well as your consideration. However, I expected a much more enthusiastic and positive response to my offer. Given your comments about your reservations about continuing in the role, I’m going to have to politely withdraw my offer. I thank you for your previous service, but at this point I need to look for someone who is ready to fully embrace and commit to this opportunity and is enthusiastic to fill this role.
Thank you once again for your service and best of luck with your future endeavours.
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Excellently said.
Thank you.
Truthfully, Dubas’s response here should be very concerning to both management and fans.
Unless of course the media reports are untrue.
But we know from Dubas own comments, that at least some of the elements of this story are accurate.
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I hope so. I am really tired of his "cutesy/fancy BS plays"
apparently there are no "shambles" in his brains and he is a "grown man" but still plays like a junior with cutesy/fancy trash turning over the puck, not making space for himself in the playoffs, winning board battles or winning puck races, etc.
both leafs and him may benefit from saying good bye to each other
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Agreed.
He is effectively turning the organization into his own personal drama. I find what he did to be very unprofessional and immature. If I were him I would consider myself lucky if other organizations don't change their minds about him after this.
Gone | The Steve Dangle Podcast
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On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast,
00:00 Chris Johnston joins the show to talk about Kyle Dubas dropping a bomb during his press conference and who's staying and who's going from this Leafs roster
That's the best approach. You only get one childhood team. Anyone suggesting to adopt a new team either never had one or never tried. Just have to ride it out.
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At this point, it’s fair to question if there has been too much loyalty at times, potentially even as a response to criticism. This goes beyond the core and extends to the coaching staff, support players (such as Alex Kerfoot), and anyone from the SSM Greyhounds.
In that sense, it’s important that Dubas acknowledged a need to adapt and not be handcuffed by his own “persistence.” I do think Dubas has evolved since he took over as GM, especially when it comes to building proper forward depth instead of plugging in the Nic Petans and Dmytro Timashovs of the world.
In fact, throughout the roster, we can definitely argue he has improved as far as developing and adding depth to the roster. The seventh defenseman is no longer the likes of Martin Marincin. The backup goalie this past season was not Michael Hutchinson or Garret Sparks. He has made a number of good bets adding quality players via free agency: TJ Brodie, Michael Bunting, Ilya Samsonov, and David Kampf, to name a few.
The flip side of the argument is that the Leafs have struggled to make so-called “hockey trades.” The best player he ever traded away was Nazem Kadri, a move that did not turn out well. What are Dubas’ other hockey trades? Acquiring Jake Muzzin for Sean Durzi, Carl Grunstrom, and a first-round pick? Moving Jack Campbell and Kyle Clifford for Trevor Moore and two third-round picks? The Kasperi Kapanen trade?
The notable deadline moves are placed in a different category given it is a buyer acquiring talent from a seller. In terms of hockey trades, there hasn’t been much to go on, but for most of those above-mentioned deals, the other team would make them again.
Ultimately, if Dubas is retained, I think his earlier comment will be one to focus on and evaluate him by. He is acknowledging a need to veer from his original course. How would he go about it? Who would move? How does he handle the coaching staff that he put together?
I would argue that the Leafs have been outcoached – or neutral, at best – in five straight playoff series now. Over four seasons under Sheldon Keefe, they won one playoff series and a North Division title over a 56-game campaign. For a team that has conducted itself and bought as though it’s a Cup contender for three of those four years, those are not good enough results.
Dubas and Sheldon Keefe are obviously good friends and have a strong personal relationship. It is not easy to make this type of decision, but it is one the organization needs to be honest about before moving forward.
The other standout part of Dubas’ press conference on Monday was the emotional toll this entire season appeared to take on him. He was clearly emotional when speaking, and he mentioned his family and the impact it made on him a few times.
The most important thing to mention here is hoping Dubas and his family are okay. Secondly, I have been told the organization was ready to move forward with an extension of some capacity heading into Monday’s press conference, and that Dubas’ comments have thrown a bit of a wrench into it. Ownership wants to know about potential burnout before greenlighting a new contract.
The job of GM of the Maple Leafs is a difficult one at the best of times. I am not going to speculate on what is happening with Kyle Dubas personally. It will be up to him, his family, and the organization to decide whether he is in the right mental/personal space to move forward and what it would look like if he were to continue.
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