Leafs need to address the goaltending.
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Has Murray even been physically spotted at the rink?
At most id imagine he'd only be doing some incredibly light skating + working with the trainers as he recovers. But even then seems a bit skeptical considering how severe his surgery seemingly was
At most id imagine he'd only be doing some incredibly light skating + working with the trainers as he recovers. But even then seems a bit skeptical considering how severe his surgery seemingly was
Or not taking back to back Ozone penalties.
Not saying Sammy is Hasek 2.0 but he did his job today.
He was OK but there is almost ALWAYS at least 1 that beats him that shouldn't, tonight it was the 2nd goal thankfully it didn't cost them this time.
No goalies can be perfect all the time. It is like saying if AM can't score in a game, he sucks.
Glad he is getting back to form and we need him to continue to be better.
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acrobaticgoalie
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I take our goaltending over:
Chicago
San Jose
Detroit
Montreal
New Jersey
Carolina
Seattle (Daccord is having a one off year likely)
Ottawa
Buffalo
Edmonton
Minnesota
Arizona
Philli
Columbus
Teams that are debatable:
LA
Anaheim
Pittsburgh
Washington
That's 18 teams (over half the league). Please tell me which ones you would take over ours?
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He cannot be trusted. They will go nowhere with him. He's a #2 in the NHL it's clear.
They need Woll to come back and be really good. Basically what he was doing before the injury.
Boston
Florida
TB
Nash.
Vegas
Islanders
Colorado looking ti improve there goaltending
And knies needs to get the puck out of the zone .
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We need D.
The issue is, we are not competing against your fancy non playoff list and at least 3 teams in our division have superior goaltending.
The issue is, we are not competing against your fancy non playoff list and at least 3 teams in our division have superior goaltending.
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He's been better but his rebound control isn't very good. Seems every time out he kicks one out right onto another guys stick for an easy goal. Did it again last night.
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Yes I've been saying to spend assets on defense and not goaltending.
The point of my post was that the one poster had said we have the worst goaltending situation in the league. I pointed out that that's not even close to being true with 18 teams listed that I would not take over ours.
To get elite goaltending, you need to draft and develop it. There's a reason they aren't usually on the market and there's other contenders in Edmonton, Colorado, Carolina and New Jersey that have been trying to get an upgrade in goal too. We don't have the assets that's its going to require to get a top 10 goalie like Saros or Markstrom at their expensive cost.
I've pointed out several times in this thread that you don't need an elite goaltender to win the cup. For example, Ward, Niemi, Binnington, Murray x2, Osgood and Hill (4th stringer). That's 7 cups in the last 20 years that were won with average to below league average goaltenders. You just need a goaltender to get hot at the right time, which we've seen from all 3 of our goalies and if you have a solid team in front of them, they'll make the goalies hob easier and make them look good.
Acquiring say Markstrom isn't going to move the needle enough when we have too many problems with our lineup. This team only shows up for 30 minutes like every other game and we have a bottom of the league defense. It makes more sense to fix those issues as opposed to putting a slightly better goalie behind that defense. Like I've said in another thread, it's like putting a bandaid on the titanic.
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Sammy kept him in that game early. Rebounds were not great, but it’s also on the Dmen to tie guys up.
Sammy has been more than good enough lately. I don’t think goaltending will be a big concern if Woll comes back and plays like he did pre-injury
Sammy has been more than good enough lately. I don’t think goaltending will be a big concern if Woll comes back and plays like he did pre-injury
Pierre LeBrun: What we’re hearing is Fleury had a four-hour meeting with his agent, Allan Walsh, this week where they went over March 8 and what could happen.
No. 1 [thing] is Fleury doesn’t want to go anywhere right now. He believes in the playoff chances of the Wild, who by the way, are on a bit of run. So, he doesn’t want to bail on the Wild while they’re still in the race.
But as they get closer to March 8, if it’s clear that the Wild are out of the playoff hunt Fleury could potentially look at two or three teams.
Among those options I’m told are the likes of the Carolina Hurricanes, Colorado Avalanche, and the Maple Leafs. These may be obvious but, again, Fleury wants to stay loyal to the Wild if they can stay in the race.
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Really?!?
No. 1 [thing] is Fleury doesn’t want to go anywhere right now. He believes in the playoff chances of the Wild, who by the way, are on a bit of run. So, he doesn’t want to bail on the Wild while they’re still in the race.
But as they get closer to March 8, if it’s clear that the Wild are out of the playoff hunt Fleury could potentially look at two or three teams.
Among those options I’m told are the likes of the Carolina Hurricanes, Colorado Avalanche, and the Maple Leafs. These may be obvious but, again, Fleury wants to stay loyal to the Wild if they can stay in the race.
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Really?!?
Yep dead on .. Sammy likely starts off playoffs again with Woll as his backup .. if da likely happens and Sammy does meltdown (sad for him i can feel for him myself) then Keefer has to recognize it very early as Sammy won't say anything .. then Jones comes in .. but bottom line if we are gonna win a Cup it is very likely it is gonna be Woll who brings it home .. he has da entire package but this injury this year may slow him down a year from reaching full potential
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Hockey journalism 101. Want attention? Add a reference to the Leafs in everything you write.Pierre LeBrun: What we’re hearing is Fleury had a four-hour meeting with his agent, Allan Walsh, this week where they went over March 8 and what could happen.
No. 1 [thing] is Fleury doesn’t want to go anywhere right now. He believes in the playoff chances of the Wild, who by the way, are on a bit of run. So, he doesn’t want to bail on the Wild while they’re still in the race.
But as they get closer to March 8, if it’s clear that the Wild are out of the playoff hunt Fleury could potentially look at two or three teams.
Among those options I’m told are the likes of the Carolina Hurricanes, Colorado Avalanche, and the Maple Leafs. These may be obvious but, again, Fleury wants to stay loyal to the Wild if they can stay in the race.
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Really?!?
Man I hope everybody is right about Woll, I really do, I hope he's the guy but I think people are sold on him WAY to quickly, he's got solid numbers but he's been injured for months, and in order to be a legitimate #1 you need to be good but also healthy and he hasn't and not only that go back and look at his injury it didn't take much.
That's why whoever they bring in next year, because they have to bring in a goalie regardless before next season because both Samsonov and Jones are UFA and I doubt either is coming back.
Whoever it is that they bring in, I hope they can challenge Woll because even if I did fully believe he was good enough to be a legitimate #1 I'm not sure he's healthy enough.
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It doesn't take much for anyone to get injured. I have a buddy who is 30 and plays high level men's league hockey and volleyball but he tore his knee just standing up out of a chair at a fire last summer.
I tore a tendon in my shoulder just taking a harness off once. Shit happens
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Not really. You're saying he needs to stay healthy to be a legit starter. His injury was a high ankle sprain. That can happen so easily and to anybody. All it takes is catching an edge or a rut and you can roll your ankle just enough to get a muscle sprain.
Unless he's had an issue with that ankle before, it's not like we're talking about a case of being injury prone like Murray constantly pulling his groin.
Well he has this injury now, and according to an article published by the hockey news on November 14 2022, at the time of the time of the article Joseph Woll had suffered both a shoulder injury and an ankle injury.
What that means is that when he went down on I believe it was December 7th 2023, that was his 2nd ankle injury in just over a year so yeah there might be some concern there.
Throw the shoulder injury on top of that and an undisclosed injury from September 2021 and a significant injury history starts to form.
He has been getting hurt every year.
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Ducks easy
Minnesota
Columbus
Detroit
Washington
Probably Seattle
Vejmelka over Samsonov easily so Arizona
Edmonton even though I'm not fully sold on their goaltending either.
Carolina
Possibly Montreal.
All these teams have at least 1 goaltender that I'd take over Samsonov right now and if not for the Carter Hart situation Philadelphia would be there too.
And before you bring up Woll Samsonov is the one being used because he is the current starter.
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