Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose

[Blanche Blanche]

Dubas overall failed here but he's a much better GM. Not up for debate.

lmao its Tre first 10 games here hahaha

Car hasnt even left the dealership yet, and you're gonna say it drives horribly

give him some time. Keefe on the other hand!

 

[ToneDog]

Maybe we should swap Max Domi and have Tie suit up in his place.

At least Tie would bring more value.

May as well dress Shanny and Wendel.

 

[shaner8989]

Leafs make it 2-2

Keefe puts out Reaves line (worst line in hockey) boom 3-2 buffalo.

Fire this f***ing moron

 

[Rare Jewel]

Knies is a kid

Kampf, have you seen him? He doesn't even use tape on his stick.

Domi has like 5 goals in his last 50 games or something, so yeah...

 

[PeteBestondrums]

Trading Reaves for Connor McDavid would help hide a lot of our defensive issues. Just Do it Tre.

 

[Azail]

Can someone tell me why players who are not performing aren't rotated in and out of the press box? Used to be a normal thing, and it worked well.

They don't really have cap. Do they even have a forward in the press box currently with the injuries and them not being on LTIR?

 

[BallardEra]

Lol I figured you're Greekboy. I was blindbaby back then.

Oh damn. Yes that was me and good to see you are well. I remember you too.

 

[stymie]

Boo.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Oh damn. Yes that was me and good to see you are well. I remember you too.

Kalispera

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Not sure what game you guys watched tonight but my hands are sore from clapping and cheering the boys on.

Lots of positives to take into next game!

Apparently the exact opposite of the game that you watched

 

[Gallagbi]

I find it strange that Bertuzzi had no issues instantly clicking with the Bruins last year but he looks like an AHLer here so far.

I also like how freaking Shattenkirk is fitting in nicely with the Bruins this year. Seems like they can insert anyone and still have success while it's hit or miss here.

He was on a 15 goal pace for the 21 games he played with the B's, then got hot for a week or two playoff series

 

[notbias]

Leafs make it 2-2

Keefe puts out Reaves line (worst line in hockey) boom 3-2 buffalo.

Fire this f***ing moron

Who is our defensive line to go out? It was after a PP and we don't have one cause Matthews' line just came out.

Normally it's Kampf's line (that is who went out) but we let all the defensive-minded forwards leave.

I don't think Keefe has a clue what to do with this lineup because he has two lines... and I think it has more to do with the construction of the team than him.

He was on a 15 goal pace for the 21 games he played with the B's, then got hot for a week or two playoff series

He also got outscored in the playoffs, it was mostly just the PP that propped up his stats, but most people don't look past point totals.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

He was on a 15 goal pace for the 21 games he played with the B's, then got hot for a week or two playoff series

60+ point pace

 

[Sniper99]

the "mess" is paying $14 million for Bertuzzi, Domi, Klingberg and Reaves to be absolutely useless. Klingberg and Reaves are worse than useless, they're just actually terrible players constantly hurting the team

anyone blaming Dubas sounds like a moron. This is the worst depth the Leafs have had, by far. That is what missing on every free agent signings does.

Anyone that supports Dubas is just as much as a moron then. Dubas spent how much on Marner Nylander Tavares and a couple others on "the core" a lot more than 14 mill. Hey lets not forget the 1st's he traded away to get rid of contracts. and trading 1st for a broken down Foligno.

 

[TMLegend]

The team will be fine overall I think, but I expect some short term growing pains as Treliving rids the organization of the Dubas stench of soft, entitled play and puts more of his touch on things.
I'm willing to give Treliving alot of slack given he inherited a team with a depleted futures pool, two massive contracts coming, and a shaky defense and goaltending situation.
If the Leafs are still playing spineless, discombobulated hockey two years from now I'll be much more open to criticism on Treliving but for the time being he isn't primarily responsible for this mess in my opinion.

 

[PromisedLand]

Hopefully Shanahan pulls Treliving out of the closet soon and we get to hear what he has to say.

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bruh what did you tell Domi when u picked him up at Tim Hortons? he looked pretty lost tonight

 

[TheDoldrums]

Anyone that supports Dubas is just as much as a moron then. Dubas spent how much on Marner Nylander Tavares and a couple others on "the core" a lot more than 14 mill. Hey lets not forget the 1st's he traded away to get rid of contracts. and trading 1st for a broken down Foligno.

Wow yeah Dubas spent a bit more on Nylander than we're paying Tyler Bertuzzi, got em!

Seriously, why are you proles so eager to blame Dubas for everything when Klingberg and Reaves have been by far the worst players on the team? I promise, you can criticize Trelivings move without us thinking you love Kyle Dubas.

 

[wingman75]

Leafs make it 2-2

Keefe puts out Reaves line (worst line in hockey) boom 3-2 buffalo.

Fire this f***ing moron

Did the same at 4-4 I believe. Talk about not reading the room.

 

[notbias]

The team will be fine overall I think, but I expect some short term growing pains as Treliving rids the organization of the Dubas stench of soft, entitled play and puts more of his touch on things.
I'm willing to give Treliving alot of slack given he inherited a team with a depleted futures pool, two massive contracts coming, and a shaky defense and goaltending situation.
If the Leafs are still playing spineless, discombobulated hockey two years from now I'll be much more open to criticism on Treliving but for the time being he isn't primarily responsible for this mess in my opinion.

Serious question, if Treliving inherited a depleted futures pool, what did Dubas inherit? Treliving has a bunch of NHL ready prospects.

F: Robertson, Holmberg, McMann, Knies, Abruzzesse, and Steeves could all play this year.
D: likely only Rifai and Timmins, but we had 5 NHL D signed.
G: Woll

Then in the pipeline there is Cowan, Minten, Niemela as top end guys and a bunch of other guys who are so-so...

Dubas actually inherited a terrible pool.

 

[TMLAM34]

You can tell Bertuzzi is more of a dump and chase/crash player. The reason why he hasn’t clicked here is because of our playing style and the fact that no one else plays that style.

Our problem is we expect whoever is on the left wing to Matthews and Marner to be a dog out there and retrieve pucks for the top guns meanwhile it should be all 3 of the forwards on that line that are hungry and chase after the puck.

Bertuzzi fit like a glove in Boston because they all play hard and forecheck. There’s no you be the dog of this line and try to retrieve pucks for Marchand. Marchand is trying to retrieve the puck himself already.

 

[PromisedLand]

I still can’t believe the fourth line was on when it was leading to the 5th Buffalo goal. What the f*** was Keefe thinking?

that too not against sabres' 4th line

it baffles me how often he gets out coached. keefe has to take some responsibility. he is the captain of the ship; he has to take responsibility to get the news guys going too. he would have had a say in bringing in them as UFAs on a 1 yr deals (domi, bert and klingberg)

 

[notbias]

You can tell Bertuzzi is more of a dump and chase/crash player. The reason why he hasn’t clicked here is because of our playing style and the fact that no one else plays that style.

Our problem is we expect whoever is on the left wing to Matthews and Marner to be a dog out there and retrieve pucks for the top guns meanwhile it should be all 3 of the forwards on that line that are hungry and chase after the puck.

Bertuzzi fit like a glove in Boston because they all play hard and forecheck. There’s no you be the dog of this line and try to retrieve pucks for Marchand. Marchand is trying to retrieve the puck himself already.

Matthews and Marner are generally amongst the leaders in takeaways... they don't crash and bang (Matthews does sometimes) but they get the puck.

 

[BlackAdam]

Anyone that supports Dubas is just as much as a moron then. Dubas spent how much on Marner Nylander Tavares and a couple others on "the core" a lot more than 14 mill. Hey lets not forget the 1st's he traded away to get rid of contracts. and trading 1st for a broken down Foligno.

Overpaid contracts will always be a thing with the Leafs. Unfortunately Toronto isn't Tampa, Florida, or Dallas so Leafs gm's will always have to overspend cause they don't have the luxury of tax breaks other teams do.
Matthews and Marner will not take less cause they will pay more in taxes.

So this whole signing the stars to big contracts narrative needs to end cause Dubas was not going to get them for less and had he offered smaller AAV, those players would leave.

If anything the stagnating cap is too blame.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

He also got outscored in the playoffs, it was mostly just the PP that propped up his stats, but most people don't look past point totals

Marchand and Bergeron also got outscored in the playoffs

I mean, we'll take any kind of offense from him but he is giving us nothing, a far cry from his stint in Boston.

 

[TMLAM34]

Matthews and Marner are generally amongst the leaders in takeaways... they don't crash and bang (Matthews does sometimes) but they get the puck.

A majority of their takeaways are in the defensive end/center ice. You rarely see the puck dumped down and Marner going hard in the corner and retrieving the puck.