The funny thing is a lot of what you're saying isn't much of a "conspiracy" at all. It's all well documented. Shanahan making some enemies at the DOPS is the only thing that really sticks out as speculation.
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The NHL's biggest partner who is Rogers owns us. Leafs winning the cup would be dismissed by the same things. At the end of the day, I'm beyond pissed at that 5 on 3. But, to tell me its a calculated event tying to a larger conspiracy is it beyond questionable when you evaluate it by Occam's Razor.
At the end of the day, I don't want excuses. Pull it off. Give me one before I die.
Occam's razor would have also completely dismantled the Gulf of Tonkin being a false flag as a precursor to start a war in Vietnam until it got admitted to year's later.
Occam's Razor is sometimes not the best tool for deciphering things of this nature.
But anyways that's where I'm stopping before this goes way off topic.
Idiot Kerfoot cost us the game. Horrible give away then a totally unnecessary high stick. Fn loser. Wish we had Kadri
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Exactly. I have all the documentation as well. The only thing left is connect the dots. The problem is the "journalists" are company cheerleaders. A real journalist would dig deeper and find more then me.
And yes the Shananhan thing is rumour, but also brings up another point I forgot to add. Its just another rumour but on Dangles recent podcast (section Adam Wylde changes hockey) at the end they mention that the Leafs were also very vocal in the offseason about calls in the playoffs being the same standard as the season. Both just rumous but may point to some prickly feelings between us and the league
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The issue with Rogers is that they are a corporate entity...Leafs don't have an owner like the Bruins who would call up Bettman and give it to him. What if the ref's boss just shouts out "casually" to his crew of officials something like "I love the game of hockey and a game 7 would be awesome to see!" Doesn't really take much to "game manage". Refs would be literally looking for "something" if the Lightning are somehow behind in the game. We've seen corrupt officiating in other sports and organizations, not just hockey, because people could be corrupt.
problem with Kadri was he could not control his temper and took a selfish penalty that caused a suspension and screwed his team over
No one is denying Jacob's has the most power in the NHL outside of Bettman (and it's derived from Jacobs to be honest). Look, I'm beyond pissed off at the 5-3. I just think this type of thinking is a crutch to the ability to not being able to pull it off. Because it's easier to accept than face the truth, like the root of most conspiracy theories.
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Yes, that was dumb, but what about the knee by DeBrusk that started the whole thing? Guy got nothing, no penalty, no fine, nothing. I remember in that game, Pastrnak literally jumped off his feet for a charge and got nothing. Officiating for that game was pathetic, designed to gave all the advantage to the Bruins.
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My issue is the league has made it very difficult for one team in particular to get it done. To me it isn't an excuse but an obstacle that needs to be overcome or removed. Short handed goals have helped a lot in overcoming this handicap but it would be better if it wasn't in the way to begin with.
Also I very rarely use it as an excuse for bad play. Bad play is bad play.
If your issue is the assistance the Leafs provide to other teams, and the cap, I agree. But, that's a very different argument.
Kadri would already have been suspended.
He is too stupid, how many series should he cost before he had to go?
One was too many.
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I'm not going to feel less bad if the Leafs don't win next game, they had their chances to win tonight's game...they just wouldn't have this much bigger mountain to climb if they didn't also have to battle the refs. After the Lightning tied the game tonight, refs literally put the whistle away because they did "their part" despite Tampa committing some egregious infractions after.
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*with Simmonds only playing 2 games and Clifford barely playing 2 shifts no less.
We don't even have our tough guys in, and yet we have been penalized more.
Some were tough 50/50 calls that have gone both ways, but there have been a bunch that have only been called one way all series. There is a lot of iffy calls going on right now, and it has accumulated to the point where the Leafs probably win this in 5 or 6 without those calls being made.
One hopes we get the ref advantage in Game 7. Or at least not the ref disadvantage. I think we win with either.
Oooooook, a bit calmer now. Great game, how could you not like? Two great teams going toe to toe. Game 7, woooheee, the boys did give up, here we go. I like our team. GLG!
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little bit of an odd comment from Tavares in his post-game interview... referred to Leaf fans as "Leaf Nation" instead of "our fans", almost like a promo of sorts. just found it a little bit separated and strange...
Don't confuse my thoughts that refs weren't part of an overlying conspiracy with the fact they weren't garbage. They were garbage.
But, I stand by, special players/legends overcome that, and I hope Leafs players do that. We had the opportunity to do that tonight. Now do it on Saturday.
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Thought Engvall actually had a good night - smart stick, strong on the walls, and really helped with breakouts out of the zone.
The speed of playoff hockey has passed Simmonds by. Calling for him to dress would basically mean the Leafs are down a man on their bench before a puck is dropped.
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No, I have little regard for either. When I mean money I mean TV deals and merch and stadium seats sold in the southern markets. Fans like it when their team wins. They buy tickets to see winning teams. Canadian fans (especially Leaf fans) will fill the arena even if they haven't got a remote chance in hell of winning. So to fill the southern arenas you use the 'subjectivity' of officiating to sway the game in favour of the smaller market teams. It (questionable game management) also happens to teams like Edmonton and Calgary for example, or even Vancouver.
From everything ive heard the Rogers deal would be a drop in the bucket compared to what big US based sports networks would offer if hockey ever reached the popularity of some of the bigger sports.
I wouldnt dress Simmonds over him but in my eyes Engvall had a bad game. He looks intimidated out there, making bad passes and playing tentative. Kind of like the Engvall we all knew and felt luke-warm on prior to his breakout in the second half of the regular season. He has the ability to make a difference for us, he's gotta wake up.
Then you are completely ignoring the NHL's biggest TV partner is Rogers/TSN. Southern Ontario is the 3rd biggest NHL market in existence on a pure numbers basis. On the amount of people who actually tune in, its higher. The Leafs financially operate in a different universe. The Leafs are pretty much the only way to get a deal like the last one.
Like honestly, why the hell is Crosby is Pitt and McDavid in Edmonton? Financially the league tilting things makes no sense on a conspiracy basis.
An entire page of refs and conspiracies. Lord.
High sticks have been called hard for 15 years. Sucked ass but nothing to argue.
They should have won that game. I’m as jaded as anyone, but they played a hell of a game. I cannot se them losing game 7 at home. I just don’t. It took everything TB had to hold court. Bring it on
High sticks have been called hard for 15 years. Sucked ass but nothing to argue.
They should have won that game. I’m as jaded as anyone, but they played a hell of a game. I cannot se them losing game 7 at home. I just don’t. It took everything TB had to hold court. Bring it on
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There's also gambling to grow the business, that's what Bettman wants...if there are less US teams playing in the playoffs, how are they going to give exposure to the US fans and the US market to grow the gambling market? Unfortunately, Bettman's business plan doesn't involve Canadian teams succeeding in the playoffs.
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Campbell is just another Andersen/Reimer so far. That OT goal was classic example of no composure in the crease. Can’t blame him as his salary is less than 2 mill, but Dubas gambled this season on him being a goalie with untapped potential. He’s not anything special, rinse and repeat. Nice guy tho.
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