Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose.

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We lost the game in the 3rd period . Had them on the ropes coming out of the 2nd period . Sat back had 4 shots , don't get it.
 
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Looks like all the teams that play as night as the Leafs are going into game 7

I'll be really happy on Sunday morning, or really sad
 
Genuine question from an outsider. I see the leafs winning series but I haven't looked at your team in depth this season. I feel like they are ready to surprise but do you think the past performances will make them a little off for game 7 or do you think this team has put that in the past mentally?

I really think they're passed it, win or lose. Just wondering what you guys think. Not trolling in any way, genuine question about your team. Cheers.
I predict they play their very worst game of the series on Saturday. I don't believe we are past it.

We will see though.
 
I think it may have been too late in the game for that, but the fact that we're talking about expected penalties is a reminder the league is so WWF.
If we had the Lead, i can see it being too late, but tied up on a phantom call 5on3? Yeah, you give them a pity powerplay.

And that's the norm, they didn't even have to make it a Light call with all the easy ones in Ot.
 
so leave. Go cheer for another 'motr rational' fanbase. The Leafs played great tonight and probably should have won.

What I don't understand is how you give one team a 5-3 on extremely questionable calls on one end and don't call blatant trips, elbows, high sticks on the other.

Either you're putting them away because you don't wanna decide the game or youre calling it down the middle. This series, this entire season has been a f***ing joke when it comes to the refs.
I'm tired of getting f***ed by them.

And I'm tired of 'i told ya so' and 'realist' fans kicking this team and its fans when they're down. Go somewhere else and be a POS since we can't use the other word.
I've never given a heart eyes love reaction to a post before but you deserve the first one. What a beauty of a poster you are.
 
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So is that a yes?
You're stuck with me bud, are you going to be hiking when they lose.. again in game 7? I'll be here bitching about the loss again on Saturday. I have been a Leafs fan my entire life. Are you going to stop apologizing for the Leafs if groundhog day happens again. Or will you continue on your merry way every year until they win a round in 2027? There is nothing hip about blind optimism.

Not everything deserves my optimism. I will be bitter about the fact that my team chokes every year, the exact same way as much as I damn well please.
 
Pretty sure it's me. Not allowed joy in my life ever. I'll go now.
I stopped looking to the Leafs for personal joy years ago. I love them. Cheer with every ounce I have, but I stopped letting their failures affect me (ok maybe I carry that disappointmen to bed, but not into the next day).

It's not you... if anyone is to blame here it is Harold Ballard... we probably have centuries to pay for his wrongdoings.
 
Success maybe, but if you are going to count on a piece of entertainment to make you happy in life you are going to have a lot of disappointment.

Where did I say that? Nice assumption. I meant happiness as it pertains to watching hockey, not happiness in general.. but I guess you know me well enough to make such a comment, right?
 
I don't think the rink will be like that at all. I think there will be all kinds of electric energy to start the game. If Tampa scores first, I think the crowd stays vocal... if Tampa gets up 2-0, I think then the crown turns.

Playing hard, and playing well isn't enough. We're way past that. Win the f***ing series of f*** off. Because no core that is worth anything goes 0-9 in series clinching games. And trading away Nylander isn't going to fix that imo because the guys who need to carry us to the win are still here.

So, it's on them to change the narrative. They have yet to show they can do it... we all want the defeatist attitudes to die, but there has to be a reason for it to die. Another loss here and it just grows bigger.

My response was more a sarcastic response to the poster who thought it would be a good idea for the building to collectively boo Kerfoot whenever he touches the puck. Everything you did post there I completely agree with, though.
 
I stopped looking to the Leafs for personal joy years ago. I love them. Cheer with every ounce I have, but I stopped letting their failures affect me (ok maybe I carry that disappointmen to bed, but not into the next day).

It's not you... if anyone is to blame here it is Harold Ballard... we probably have centuries to pay for his wrongdoings.

I keep trying to convince myself the same. But I still die a little inside every time something like this happens.

Can't help it.
 
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We gotta trade willy while his value is at his highest.

I don't care about the goals he scores, we need heart when it matters... Please tell me you guys saw willy give up on the icing and some plays feels like he's a half step slower than what he should be on purpose to avoid physicality....

Let another team have him be a PPG player (we have a lot of them already and more coming in the pipeline) let the other team have him disappear when it matters.

He's got ALL THE POTENTIAL but CHOOSES to give up on plays... It's beyond frustrating at this point, and yes I know he's got points and goals in this series most of which were games already lost by that point.

Let us collect multiple high picks and good prospects and let another team have him.
 
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It's not curse, it's culture. Building a culture that caries you in those moments is both painstaking and fleeting. Toronto's culture fails when it absolutely matters.

If you want me to define what culture is in this case, I'll do so via examples. It's taking 2 stupid (one really questionable), careless, high sticking penalties back-to-back, while protecting a third period lead. It's a player not being able to finish a breakaway in overtime, after costing his team all game long with bad penalty and a worse drop pass, that directly led to a goal. It's out playing and out chancing your opponent, significantly, in overtime, but not possessing the class to finish. It's about your MVP caliber centerman, tripping over the red line, with the game on the line. It's about your goalie giving up a "meh" goal, again, to lose the game, while his counterpart, calmly, stands on his head.

Culture means everything. The Leafs have built a culture of losing. They have to find a way, whatever it takes, to build the foundation of a franchise whose culture carries them in key moments, rather than letting them down. I see no other way.

If there's something wrong with the culture, it produced Game 5. You can lose like tonight and it's painful as hell but you don't generally hate the team. Game 4 was such an egregiously bad result when they had so much going for them when they had found some real mojo in Game 3 and were playing with house money. You want to cash out of that series as early as possible, but hang around and wait for an anything goes Game 7.
 
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So Tampa is +6
I wonder how that spread compares to some of the other series happening

Carolina is a +5 (33-28, Marchand got that spearing double minor right at the end to bump it up)
Oilers over Kings +1 (20-19)
Pens over Rangers +3 (15-12)
AVs over Preds +3 (16-13)
Stars over Flames +1 (20-19)
Blues over Wild +1 (20-19)
Caps over Florida +4 (20-16)
 
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