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Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose 5-3

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fahad203 said:
For the money he's making, probabaly 100s, if you don't like it you can't ignore them.

So called superstar doesn't show up when games matter doesn't seem to concern you. You remember Columbus? everyone else does

He has good games, but superstar games for the price he has been paid. Did you see the 4th or 5th goal Ottawa scored? The one Button pointed out, how non challant he was? how casual from their end? he has his moments then he disappears. It's almost like you get a superstar game from him or nothing

Take a look at Mackinnon what he does year in year out and in important games. Also a friendly reminder, he gets paid less that Matthews. Connor McDavid gets paid less than Matthews. Let that sink in. All he does is win Heart, MVP and scoring title
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Macks first good year was the age AM is now.
 
AllDay28 said:
the sky is falling!!!!! Leafs didnt go 82-0, pathetic. They lost to a professional hockey team?
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They could lose 100 games it's how they play. Nothing has changed. No intensity, no pride from our key players. that's what bothering me

How do you lose to Ottawa Senators? did you see their line up? be honest, name a player from their second line, quickly
 
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fahad203 said:
His team before that scuked. He didn't have the support Matthews had. it's not the same
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Right, but his support is considerably better than Matthews now, and that’s when he started winning all those awards and titles.

mom not saying Matthews is or will be as good as Mack, but every player outside of Drai and McDavid will come out of that comparison looking bad. Mack is a special player.
 
Lets shake the forward group up, while bringing back some chemistry/familiarity....everyone seems out of sync and I think they would do much better if they went back to a tweaked version of the 2019-20 lines:

Hyman-Matthews-Marner
Mikheyev-Tavares-Nylander
Thornton -Kerfoot- Vesey
Robertson - Spezza - Simmonds
 
Critical91 said:
Right, but his support is considerably better than Matthews now, and that’s when he started winning all those awards and titles.

mom not saying Matthews is or will be as good as Mack, but every player outside of Drai and McDavid will come out of that comparison looking bad. Mack is a special player.
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He's a special player sure. Everyone knows that. But what makes him special? It's his willingness. He gives a Danm
 
At the end of the day money from forward needs to be moved back into the d and goalie position. Wether the leafs trade mitch or willy along with andersen and Reilly, somthing other then 3rd and 4th liners need to be moved out in the right deals to shake this team up and make it better.
 
kevsh said:
All four forward lines have at least one new player, 2 of the 3 D pairs have never played together. Freddy off to his typical slow start. It will take time for Brodie to get used to a new team, system, partner and opponents he has only faced a couple of times per year.

They'll be fine. Patience is a tough sell, I know, but they'll get it together.
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There is no time for patience with a shortened schedule even in the weakest division. A 4 - 10 - 2 start will put them way on the outside looking in.
 
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fahad203 said:
He's a special player sure. Everyone knows that. But what makes him special? It's his willingness. He gives a Danm
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He gives a damn, but he also has elite vision, skating, shot, handles, etc.

Some thought he was on Crosby’s level back in the day. He gives a damn, but what sets him apart is his incredible skill set too. I don’t know if AM has that kind of potential. Not sure anyone does right now.
 
Critical91 said:
He gives a damn, but he also has elite vision, skating, shot, handles, etc.

Some thought he was on Crosby’s level back in the day. He gives a damn, but what sets him apart is his incredible skill set too. I don’t know if AM has that kind of potential. Not sure anyone does right now.
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If I were the leafs I'd be telling Matthews, Marner, and Reilly to go train with Crosby and Mackinnon in the offseason. Look what it did for Mack.
 
1specter said:
That poster offers nothing but hot takes.

I've been quite critical of this team and pretty much gave up on them after the Columbus series but there's been no training camp and there's a bunch of new players vying for ice time, plus this is the first time Keefe will have them from the start of the season.

I think they will be okay, my concern is more so Andersen, who I don't really have faith in anymore.
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Yea, not worth it. A bunch of non sense word salad from them.
 
Senators were better tonight, plain and simple.
Maybe this Senators team isn’t going to be a cake walk like many of us thought.
 
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Thornton looks like I figured he would be, ineffective. He should not be in a top six role. At least they had it right with Spezza and kept him in a bottom six role.

Not impressed with the Leafs through the first two games. Trying to play with skill instead of hitting and playing with passion.

Four shots in the third period down a few goals isn't showing any drive or will.

I've liked Tavares through the first two games. Matthews has looked decent despite not scoring any yet. Marner looks lost, Nylander was good in the first game, but not so much last night.

Not a fan of TJ Brodie, wasn't a fan of his in Calgary either. I don't think he has what it takes.
 
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Leafs at Knight said:
Matthews trained with McDavid this offseason lol. Also I'm not really sure it has any sort of impact on anything, at least to the level you think it does.
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Well to be honest I have no idea how much or little it would help them. I'm just grasping at straws for a way to figure out how to get our core involved consistently every game.
 
Matthews GQ said:
Thornton looks like I figured he would be, ineffective. He should not be in a top six role. At least they had it right with Spezza and kept him in a bottom six role.

Not impressed with the Leafs through the first two games. Trying to play with skill instead of hitting and playing with passion.

Four shots in the third period down a few goals isn't showing any drive or will.

I've liked Tavares through the first two games. Matthews has looked decent despite not scoring any yet. Marner looks lost, Nylander was good in the first game, but not so much last night.

Not a fan of TJ Brodie, wasn't a fan of his in Calgary either. I don't think he has what it takes.
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I think a muzzing brodie pair would work very well. The problem is and always has been who do we pair with Reilly to help him on the defensive side of the game. Our d core with a high-end shutdown number 2d slots everyone in properly.
 
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AllDay28 said:
the sky is falling!!!!! Leafs didnt go 82-0, pathetic. They lost to a professional hockey team?
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I made this joke tongue-in-cheek vs the Habs but it's pretty concerning that this team has no balls. That's why Thornton and Simmonds were brought in. We have $20+ million tied up in Marner and Matthews. Those guys should both be on a 100 point pace for that money and show up every night. I especially have little sympathy for Marner, he sat out like a diva asking for unreasonable money and Dubas caved. For what hes paid, he should be noticable.
 
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