Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose 5 -1

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Jojalu

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shot 36 vs 24
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and people reacting like Boston outplayed leafs and leafs wqs totally trash.

When you goalie gave up 3 weak goal, it will always be hard to build momemtum, put pressure on opposite team and win. The best save on that game leafs had came from the post.

I said it last summer if leafs didn't made move as goalie than Woll would be leafs only chance for a run. Samsonov gave up some hope with his game last 2 month but this Samsonov is the o e who been cleared of waiver. I just dont understand why keefe still keeping samsonov after the 3rd goal and 4th goal
I said yeaterday the game felt closer than 5-1 and I didn't believe the Leafs played poor.

My issue is that quite often they can tilt the ice, creating a tonne of chances but it doesn't translate to actual goals.

I am rewatching the game this morning and I see the same thing. The Leafs did have quite a few really good looks and didn't convert. But it has happened far too often in the playoffs for me to believe somehow this year they will go in.

In the end if they win Mon they have home ice and it's game on. Bos didn't look great. Pasta and Marchand looked mid. Figure it out.
 

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Was building a raised garden bed for half the game as I thought Leafs would poop the bed and didn't want to waste limited resources (time) watching a second rate team go through the motions.

This is really a soft, leaderless team.

not investing in this vehicle until the show they more than a regular season junior league team pretending to be NHL men.

No shows.
Prepping for the apocalypse? Wise decision……….
 
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I have zero doubt JT isn’t giving his best, the other “superstars” not so much. Everyone knew the final years of JT’s deal would suck, and now were dealing with it………..
Tavares has never played well in the playoffs , lets not pretend it's due to him getting older .
 
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Boston didn't look too good and still won, the Leafs were not outplayed or outclassed. This kind of makes me nervous because if Boston is winning when not playing well what's going to happen when they do? I hope that I'm wrong but this may be a shorter series than I predicted, which was the Leafs in 7. If Nylander isn't playing on Monday and they don't get their goalie issues resolved it could be Bruins in 4.
 
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Same story every year. You guys keep pointing to all these chances we generate and blame the goalies and it never seems to dawn on you that maybe, just maybe our highly paid forwards who are eating up all the cap yet can't seem to convert their chances might be the problem.

We are masters at making opposing goalies look like superstars.

do you ever saw a team winning when his goalie was giving up 1 to 3 weak goal every game?

How do you want to build any momemtum when your goalie giving it away everytime you created it?
 

Racer88

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Not another game where people can comment templated responses without watching the game. I mean why watch a game unless people can talk about what really happened?
What really happened is we lost. The only goal was from a 4th liner.
Yes I realize Sammy was bad but our high high paid stars did nothing and if there only job is to play even with the other teams good players why are they paid so much.
We have seen this for 8 years now…….when is it going to change
 

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shot 36 vs 24
scoring chance 38 vs 21
high danger chance 20 vs 8 ( only 2 on 2 and 3rd period)

and people reacting like Boston outplayed leafs and leafs wqs totally trash.

When you goalie gave up 3 weak goal, it will always be hard to build momemtum, put pressure on opposite team and win. The best save on that game leafs had came from the post.

I said it last summer if leafs didn't made move as goalie than Woll would be leafs only chance for a run. Samsonov gave up some hope with his game last 2 month but this Samsonov is the o e who been cleared of waiver. I just dont understand why keefe still keeping samsonov after the 3rd goal and 4th goal
It came down to goaltending and execution, they most certainly didn’t “out play” us, I see plenty of opportunities.
 
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Theeze0504

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It's the best of 7, some of you need to give it a rest, Game 1 last year was worse. You guys lost 7-3 and came back to win the series.


If they give the same performance as game 1, then sure... It could have been nerves. I would be more pissed at the fact Nylander decided not to be in the lineup. Unless it's something serious, which hopefully is not the case, otherwise he's going to be public enemy #1

There's still a lot of hockey to be played.
 
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BertCorbeau

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I’m sorry but they Domi slash was such a soft call for a playoff game .. but it was Marchand and Boston so refs going to ref. Blaming Domi, especially Keefe in the media, is brutal.

Leafs played like arse but the refs sure didn’t seem to care about any game management calls when Boston was up.
 

HamiltonNHL

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If Marner is resigned, it should be clear to everyone, that it’s not about winning. No one cares about winning but the fans.

MLSE is raking in the dough. And that’s the only important part.
 

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I’m sorry but they Domi slash was such a soft call for a playoff game .. but it was Marchand and Boston so refs going to ref. Blaming Domi, especially Keefe in the media, is brutal.

Leafs played like arse but the refs sure didn’t seem to care about any game management calls when Boston was up.
It was pretty mild and can probably be spotted uncalled in most games
 

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do you ever saw a team winning when his goalie was giving up 1 to 3 weak goal every game?

How do you want to build any momemtum when your goalie giving it away everytime you created it?
Agreed but we have had this issue for 8 years. Why has nobody fixed this yet.
Boston loses their world class goalie and boom they replace him with 2 goalies that are both better than any goalie we have in the system so it can be done but it hasn’t been.
We use one scrap bin goalie after they other because the build model was such that our high high paid stars would be able to rise above but they are incapable of doing that
 

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Same story every year. You guys keep pointing to all these chances we generate and blame the goalies and it never seems to dawn on you that maybe, just maybe our highly paid forwards who are eating up all the cap yet can't seem to convert their chances might be the problem.

We are masters at making opposing goalies look like superstars.
Our Expected Goals Cups look awesome on Shanahan's balcony tho
 

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You need guys who can do both .. domi is fine .. matty is fine .. both can skate and play with grit .. line 1 played a very even gane against bruins except for 2 stupid penalties .. but we require that line to beat bruins by 2 goals net per game .. this line can clean up their game in game 2 .. but can lines 2 and 3 .. i think without willy and mccann we are doomed here .. those 2 add so much speed that we missed last night
Right now, our D is big and slow with little puck movement, so they're throwing everything up the wall. Our wingers aren't strong there, Bert, Domi Mitch, Robby, Reaves all have issues getting to those pucks and/more making a constructive play from it.

Offensively, we need more sustained pressure and to find the soft spots in the high slot but that's difficult with our wingers being light (especially down Willy and McMann) and the D lacking offensive awareness.
 

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I’m sorry but they Domi slash was such a soft call for a playoff game .. but it was Marchand and Boston so refs going to ref. Blaming Domi, especially Keefe in the media, is brutal.

Leafs played like arse but the refs sure didn’t seem to care about any game management calls when Boston was up.
And what was that interference on the Boston PP? The Bruin D pinning the Leaf on the boards for the entire breakout til the play was past centre ice. So blatant it was silly.
 

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I’m sorry but they Domi slash was such a soft call for a playoff game .. but it was Marchand and Boston so refs going to ref. Blaming Domi, especially Keefe in the media, is brutal.

Leafs played like arse but the refs sure didn’t seem to care about any game management calls when Boston was up.

It was definitely a weak call but I think Domi was warned earlier in the game and the ref just made him pay.
 

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do you ever saw a team winning when his goalie was giving up 1 to 3 weak goal every game?

How do you want to build any momemtum when your goalie giving it away everytime you created it?
Sammy wasn’t great, but these high danger chances for the Leafs? Come on, most of them where low along the ice spin o Rama shots. Swayman didn’t have to make too many difficult saves. How many posts did Boston hit as well? Stats nerds eat this crap up and make excuses for poor team performance
 

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The refs were as the refs always are when the Leafs play in the playoffs.

Domi and McCabe calls were so soft. It's the playoffs. Other teams can do it, but not the Leafs.

The game was out of reach but it sums up how we are reffed when we were in the Bruins zone for the first 4 or 5 minutes of the third period. The first time the Bruins get in our zone in the 3rd, we get called for a penalty within 20 seconds.
 
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Gary Nylund

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I said yeaterday the game felt closer than 5-1 and I didn't believe the Leafs played poor.

My issue is that quite often they can tilt the ice, creating a tonne of chances but it doesn't translate to actual goals.

I am rewatching the game this morning and I see the same thing. The Leafs did have quite a few really good looks and didn't convert. But it has happened far too often in the playoffs for me to believe somehow this year they will go in.

In the end if they win Mon they have home ice and it's game on. Bos didn't look great. Pasta and Marchand looked mid. Figure it out.
Exactly. It's unbelievable how this keeps happening year after year, like Groundhog Day. Maybe we'll wake up tomorrow and see a different movie, we'll see. It's not over til it's over, it's always darkest before the dawn and all that jazz.

Still, that game was hard to take boy. I mean my expectations were lower than they've been in years as I figured our cup chances are oh so slim but still, I got somewhat excited as I always do for the playoffs and then we go down 1-0 almost instantly and never get back in it, so frustrating.

It came down to goaltending and execution, they most certainly didn’t “out play” us, I see plenty of opportunities.
I get what you're saying but isn't converting on your chances part of what constitutes outplaying someone?
 

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The refs were as the refs always are when the Leafs play in the playoffs.

Domi and McCabe calls were so soft. It's the playoffs. Other teams can do it, but not the Leafs.

The game was out of reach but it sums up how we are reffed when we were in the Bruins zone for the first 4 or 5 minutes of the third period. The first time the Bruins get in our zone in the 3rd, we get called for a penalty within 20 seconds.

Same story every f***ing year. Leafs play physical and they get penalties for it
 

Gallagbi

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Same story every year. You guys keep pointing to all these chances we generate and blame the goalies and it never seems to dawn on you that maybe, just maybe our highly paid forwards who are eating up all the cap yet can't seem to convert their chances might be the problem.

We are masters at making opposing goalies look like superstars.
Most see the core as a problem, but isolating what is happening seems alot more useful and engaging that crying about it not happening.

Last night JT had PP chances, not much else. Matthews was our best player but seemed to be carrying too much on the line. Marner struggled to create 5on5 and Willy didn't play
 
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