Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose 5 -1

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ToneDog

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Marner played last night!!!?? We need to overpay him and give him a NMC then go out and vote for Trudeau again.
If he only had the balls on the ice he does off, in his post game interview and contract negotiations. Dump him or you will regret it like you are starting to regret the Nylander deal. FFS has anybody in this organization learned anything already?
 

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Nothing skewed at all. Beyond some mistakes and questionable goaltending, on balance, the leafs outplayed the Bruins. Need to shore up positions at fault next game.
Yep. Bruins xGA 7.208 vs Leafs 3.04. This game came down to goaltending and it's right there in a nutshell.

Boston had quite a few posts so in that way, they had more bad luck than us
So did we.
 
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Most see the core as a problem, but isolating what is happening seems alot more useful and engaging that crying about it not happening.

Last night JT had PP chances, not much else. Matthews was our best player but seemed to be carrying too much on the line. Marner struggled to create 5on5 and Willy didn't play
Saying that the guys with some of the highest cap hits in the NHL can't convert their chances IS isolating the problem. Not sure the word useful here makes sense though, I mean it's not like anything anyone posts here has an impact on anything.

If he only had the balls on the ice he does off, in his post game interview and contract negotiations. Dump him or you will regret it like you are starting to regret the Nylander deal. FFS has anybody in this organization learned anything already?
I watched his post game interview this morning and was thinking he isn't saying anything dumb for a change, that's interesting. Then he said something about how they came out strong in the 3rd ...

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Yep. Bruins xGA 7.208 vs Leafs 3.04. This game came down to goaltending and it's right there in a nutshell.


So did we.
If it comes down to goaltending, how can you win when you invest you money elsewhere. Yes our goalies suck but as they say, you get what you pay for. A shame the same cannot be said about the core.
 
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Saying that the guys with some of the highest cap hits in the NHL can't convert their chances IS isolating the problem. Not sure the word useful here makes sense though, I mean it's not like anything anyone posts here has an impact on anything.
I mean this post in itself shows the isolation isn't even happening. 1 of the core 4 didn't play, the other didn't create offense for himself which is an ongoing problem. Conversion was only a problem for Tavares, debatable Matthews.

For my own education and time, it's alot more useful to read insights than tears
 

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Leafs play run and gun pond hockey and win more than they lose in the regular season, but that shit don’t work in the playoffs, just a reminder that this team is a show horse not a work horse……..
We outshot and outchanced them. On top of that, our expected goals were significantly higher than theirs. The difference? Swayman stood on his head. He made key save after key save. Sammy made maybe one or two great saves and no exceptional saves. At this time of year your goaltender needs to make almost every great save and a few exceptional ones in order for you to go anywhere in the playoffs.
 

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You guys need to stop thinking like these x numbers mean anything. I mean Boston scored 5 goals and hit the post about 4 times, doesn't that make you question this 3.04 number even a little bit?
We are the better team everywhere except the scoreboard. It starts with culture. They have it, we do not. Lou was building it. Kyle tore it down and here we are.
 

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You guys need to stop thinking like these x numbers mean anything. I mean Boston scored 5 goals and hit the post about 4 times, doesn't that make you question this 3.04 number even a little bit?
We hit the the post three times AND we had the stats on our side. Our goaltending is not up to snuff. I'm not sure why this is so difficult to understand.
 
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I mean this post in itself shows the isolation isn't even happening. 1 of the core 4 didn't play, the other didn't create offense for himself which is an ongoing problem. Conversion was only a problem for Tavares, debatable Matthews.
Conversion has always been a problem for the team as a whole, not just Tavares. Remember that 4 year stretch when the playoffs came down to one deciding game and we managed to score only 3 goals in those 4 games?

Agree that missing Nylander didn't help but still ...
 

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If it comes down to goaltending, how can you win when you invest you money elsewhere. Yes our goalies suck but as they say, you get what you pay for. A shame the same cannot be said about the core.
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Was building a raised garden bed for half the game as I thought Leafs would poop the bed and didn't want to waste limited resources (time) watching a second rate team go through the motions.

This is really a soft, leaderless team.

not investing in this vehicle until the show they more than a regular season junior league team pretending to be NHL men.

No shows.

In the light of day, this was harsh after a couple (few) Flor de Cana's.

Perhaps the huge difference is one team has a goaltender or two they feel comfortable with?
 

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To be fair, in the end opportunity and “good things” are irrelevant, we have to execute, they did, we didn’t. Noobdy is going to be happy with “well we had our chances”, my only point last night, we were very competitive, Boston is beatable.
 

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I was proud of the team the way they attempted to and got engaged physically going hit for hit with the Bruins. That is how you play or expect to play PLAYOFF hockey, :hit:

However it appeared to the Bruins as coming natural as that is the way they play ever game and finish their checks, while for the Leafs it felt forced and much different style then their free skating approach in most games.

Treliving likes his defense Big, Mean and preferably mobile and we saw that through his additions Simon Benoit, Joel Edmundson & Ilya Lyubushkin. However 2 of those 3 were late season additions so we're not seeing the full year impact on style of play regularly yet.

The end result of the game however was not unexpected as Boston strong goaltending showed up and Leafs weak goaltending was also on full display sadly. Samsonov letting in the 1st shot he face in the 1st and also the 2nd periods were completely team deflating and essentially game deciding already.
 

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If he only had the balls on the ice he does off, in his post game interview and contract negotiations. Dump him or you will regret it like you are starting to regret the Nylander deal. FFS has anybody in this organization learned anything already?
Marner is going to ask for near Matthews money again which is laughable. It was sad the first time but at least back then Matthews was paid based on potential. And now that the Leafs are all but admitting that Matthews and Marner doesn't work together, how on Earth would they justify paying $12 million to a small soft winger? So he can setup Tavares? Yeah, I don't think so.
 

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Conversion has always been a problem for the team as a whole, not just Tavares. Remember that 4 year stretch when the playoffs came down to one deciding game and we managed to score only 3 goals in those 4 games?

Agree that missing Nylander didn't help but still ...
So why aren't they converting. That's the question.
 

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For resigning Nylander too early in the process? I doubt thT was Tre’s call, and if it was he made a huge mistake imo…….


Who honestly thinks Tre willingly did this deal? It’s got Shanahan’s stink all over it imo…….
If Tre is Shannys puppet. All the more reason to let him go too.
 
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Right now, our D is big and slow with little puck movement, so they're throwing everything up the wall. Our wingers aren't strong there, Bert, Domi Mitch, Robby, Reaves all have issues getting to those pucks and/more making a constructive play from it.

Offensively, we need more sustained pressure and to find the soft spots in the high slot but that's difficult with our wingers being light (especially down Willy and McMann) and the D lacking offensive awareness.
Yes it is a major problem in roster construction for playoff hockey .. regular season hockey it works ok but not in playoff hockey which is 10 percebt faster .. d need to go higher and harder off glass and out .. keep it simple stupid especially when your opponent is faster than you .. we have to play a slower game with a ton of icings .. win draws .. if we try to swing with bruins in a fast uptempo rush game we are dead to rights .. we dont have lines 2 and 3 to play that way
 

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If you think that's meaningful there's not much else to say here.
So let me get this straight. You're saying that if you're the Boston Bruins and continue to play like this, you're going to win the Stanley cup? They're not even going to get past the Leafs let alone FLA or TBAY if they continue with these numbers.
 
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