Confirmed with Link: Leafs go 4-4-1 in expansion, Dermott, Kerfoot, McCann, exposed

[francis246]

thats the justification? thats not good enough IMO. They should be exposed to the same kind of rules the other teams are facing. its a load of crap that VGK is excused from the expansion draft. its a load of crap IMO

They don’t make any money from Seattle coming in. Just because other organizations were stupid and basically gave them really good players doesn’t mean the rules should be changed. The GM’s panicked and make horrible deals

 

[Mike1]

Holl plays well with Muzzin & is on a decent contract. It would cost more to replace him & he is serviceable. The McCann deal insures they move forward with someone who could conceivably play 3C.

There is no side deal in my opinion. If Seattle takes Dermott then one of McCann or Kerfoot plays wing. If they take McCann or Kerfoot than the other plays 3C. Dubas put himself in a no lose situation for a much lower cost than Seattle would demand.

 

[Gallagbi]

if Mcann is taken Dubas should be fired on the spot.

For essentially losing a prospect over mid-line roster players in the expansion draft?

 

[Metroid]

We all know it doesn't matter who the leafs lose because that player will end up going on a tear and everyone will want Dubas' head (he deserves it for other things)

It's how it works in leaf land.

 

[Mess]

McCann then be flipped for picks to another team too at a lower cap hit. Seattle would be smart too do that given dead cap

TSN Insiders are suggesting they take Kerfoot because he has more term left, so Seattle can flip him in the future at the TD and get a better return as it wouldn't be a pure rental.

 

[fahad203]

I hope when McCann comes back to Scotiabank they have video a tribute for him

 

[PromisedLand]

dubas is a dummy

OMG that moron protected holl over dermott?

Dubas just keeps pissing me off

 

[PromisedLand]

TSN Insiders are suggesting they take Kerfoot because he has more term left, so Seattle can flip him in the future at the TD and get a better return as it wouldn't be a pure rental.

wouldn't rfa vs ufa play a role? other teams can potentially re-up McCann at a lower cap hit and end up having more term than kerfoot.

 

[Oscar Peterson]

Ugh Justin Holl is probably my least favourite player on the team, definitely not stoked with this decision but oh well

 

[francis246]

wouldn't rfa vs ufa play a role? other teams can potentially re-up McCann at a lower cap hit and end up having more term than kerfoot.

i think McCann has arbitration rights next year and he’d likely win because his numbers have been good. So that’s another factor

 

[TheGreatOne11]

TSN Insiders are suggesting they take Kerfoot because he has more term left, so Seattle can flip him in the future at the TD and get a better return as it wouldn't be a pure rental.

Yeah, I'm pretty confident they know Kerfoot is being picked up here. I would have protected Dermott over Holl personally because i do not believe he is a legit top 4 D, where as Dermott given the chance I think could be.

 

[Apex Predator]

For essentially losing a prospect over mid-line roster players in the expansion draft?

yes why trade for McCann to lose him in the expansion draft m. If they wanted to protect someone else so bad trade the prospect to Seattle as part of an an agreement.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

I assume there’s a side deal or an agreement between the leafs and Seattle.

if Mcann is taken Dubas should be fired on the spot.

Why? A month, week, day ago would you not pay a middle tier prospect and a 7th to not lose anyone off the active roster?

 

[Metroid]

Looking forward to seeing Keefoot vs McCann battles between this fan base next season /s

 

[OtherThingsILike]

Worse case scenario:

Hallander is our protection deal in that we keep 3 of McCann Kerfoot Dermott and Holl.

No need for another protection deal, we already paid with Hallander and got a 7th back.

It's a minor point, but the Penguins got the 7th; it was Hallander and a 7th for McCann.

 

[Mess]

wouldn't rfa vs ufa play a role? other teams can potentially re-up McCann at a lower cap hit and end up having more term than kerfoot.

McCann will be an RFA, but his base salary next year is $3,380,000, which is also the qualifying amount and he has arbitration rights .. With Kerfoot at $3.5 mil there is more cost certainty as both players contracts $$ wise would be similar at that point..

I think McCann is the better player so I would take him regardless, but then I would keep him and opposed to taking Kerfoot simply to flip him and get future assets.

 

[rumman]

Leafs acquire McCann-great player smart move by Dubas
Cracken select McCann in entry draft-no problem, he wasn’t going to be a significant player for us, smart move by Dubas.

 

[Apex Predator]

Why? A month, week, day ago would you not pay a middle tier prospect and a 7th to not lose anyone off the active roster?

Are we really hurting if we lose someone? Before the trade kerfott would hurt the most but on the bright side we gain cap space. There is no need for the leafs trade any assets to save someone from
The team. Their important guys are already protected regardless if they went 4-4 or 7-3.

that’s just my opinion.

 

[The Podium]

yes why trade for McCann to lose him in the expansion draft m. If they wanted to protect someone else so bad trade the prospect to Seattle as part of an an agreement.

Seattle seems to have been asking for a lot for side deals.

Worst case the Leafs lost a mid tier prospect and a 7th to keep their team untouched. I, however, hope that Seattles plan is to take Kerfoot.

 

[93gilmour93]

No surprise on the keeper list and I wouldn't worry at all about losing McCann. Dubas would've waited till after the expansion draft to make the trade if he didn't know McCann is safe. It's Kerfoot that goes.

 

[Mitch nylander]

Not happy with this at all. I'm a big Dubas fan, but this baffles me.

Why protect Holl, he has struggled without Muzzin. Easily replaceable. I even prefer Dermott over him.

I would have went 7-3-1, and protect Mccann, Kerfoot and Brooks rather than the dman.

I think we lose Kerfoot, which I don't think is the biggest blow in the world, but I think he is a better player and more of a need than a guy like Holl. Especially when in a 7-3-1 scenario they likely take Dermott, who's younger and better.

I'd rather roll the dice with Sandin starting the lineup than having to find a UFA 3c and a few other UFA forwards.

 

[The Podium]

Are we really hurting if we lose someone? Before the trade kerfott would hurt the most but on the bright side we gain cap space. There is no need for the leafs trade any assets to save someone from
The team. Their important guys are already protected regardless if they went 4-4 or 7-3.

that’s just my opinion.

Might be that they were afraid to lose Dermott and needed to acquire someone more attractive?

There is so many different layers of uncertainty here.

 

[The Iceman]

I disagree. I dont think it would be very hard to find a dman to give you what Holl gives you at all.

At the end of the day, the Leafs are willing to lose a middle six forward for a bottom pair dman. That just doesnt make sense.

Except the bottom pair Dman is a top 4 Dman on this roster. All comes down to asset management and how can the team put its best group on the ice.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I really am not the biggest Dermott fan and the amount of hate Holl gets confuses me so I am fine with this but I am sure a bunch of people will freak out now.

 

[Apex Predator]

Might be that they were afraid to lose Dermott and needed to acquire someone more attractive?

There is so many different layers of uncertainty here.

yeah maybe you’re right. To be a bug in the room.