Confirmed with Link: Leafs go 4-4-1 in expansion, Dermott, Kerfoot, McCann, exposed

[Ryan52]

I found it interesting that Vegas is excluded from the ED. So in a nutshell every other team loses a player and is slightly weakened. Keep doing what you do Gary.

This was agreed on long before we knew what they would become. The other owners agreed as well

 

[rumman]

look at it as we traded Hallander + 7th for Kerfoot in that case

In this scenario the Kadri trade looks even worse.

 

[Ryan52]

Cap. We can replace Kerfoot and McCann at a similar number. We can't get a top 4 D for under twice the cost of Holl

Then why pick up McCann?

 

[SprDaVE]

With the leaks about Kerfoot and Seattle, seems like this is all pointing towards that.

I still don't understand the amount of hate Justin Holl gets. People want size, people want defensive defenseman and they want affordable players... Holl is that. No he's not amazing, but he's not paid like he's amazing either. People act like he's being paid 6M+ here, even if he's not super great top 4 quality, he's at the very least a capable defenseman to play those minutes.

 

[Buds17]

There will obviously be surprises among the forwards not on the protected list. The same might hold true for a blueliner. Think Kerfoot will be the one ultimately ending up with Seattle.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Sounds stupid. We must be the only team that trades for a player so we can expose him.

 

[Jozay]

With the leaks about Kerfoot and Seattle, seems like this is all pointing towards that.

I still don't understand the amount of hate Justin Holl gets. People want size, people want defensive defenseman and they want affordable players... Holl is that. No he's not amazing, but he's not paid like he's amazing either.

Maybe because he's not good?

That probably has something to do with it.

They're about to lose a better player just so they could protect Holl lol.

 

[The Iceman]

Sounds stupid. We must be the only team that trades for a player so we can expose him.

Brilliant piece of work to make sure we have either Kerfoot or McCann I would say.
Don't see this roster constructed with them both on the team.

QUESTION
Do we have enough forwards to go 7-3-1 in the expansion draft?
Need to leave 2 exposed correct??

 

[SprDaVE]

Maybe because he's not good?

That probably has something to do with it.

He's not that bad either? He's paid 2M here... Or did I miss the news about his 5M contract?

I forgot this market just destroys any defenseman and their lack of quality. It's pretty insane.

 

[Schenn]

I found it interesting that Vegas is excluded from the ED. So in a nutshell every other team loses a player and is slightly weakened. Keep doing what you do Gary.

Vegas also doesn't get a cheque worth $40 million like the other 30 teams.

 

[Jozay]

He's not that bad either? He's paid 2M here... Or did I miss the news about his 5M contract?

Who do you think is easier to replace, Kerfoot/McCann or Holl?

 

[Leaf Fans]

Sounds stupid. We must be the only team that trades for a player so we can expose him.

I know. Hedging our bets. We get to keep him or Kerfoot or both.

 

[SprDaVE]

Who do you think is easier to replace, Kerfoot/McCann or Holl?

None of those players are easy to replace. I think trying to replace your 2M defenseman that is signed for a couple more years who has shown plenty of good moments and plays a pretty good defensive role is fine to value highly. You're going to have a tough time trying to find a skating right handed 2M 6'5" defenseman on a 2 year deal.

 

[123offtheglass]

Anyone recall any side deals that didn't favor Vegas at the last expansion draft?

 

[Legion34]

None of those players are easy to replace. I think trying to replace your 2M defenseman that is signed for a couple more years who has shown plenty of good moments and plays a pretty good defensive roll is pretty good to keep.

I would easily have let him go to try to sign a savard. Larson. Oleksiak. Etc for 3.5-4 million.

 

[Guided by Veseys]

That is so.. disappointing.
Pumped on McCann for under 24 hours
Can’t help but feel this choice is locker room driven, keeping all the bros together.

 

[Gallagbi]

After about 15 games into last season its pretty clear Holl is not a top-4 D.

Honestly I view him as a fringe top 4 guy, but I think you're paying a premium to replace that role and the team clearly has a lot more confidence than I do in him with his usage.

At the end of the day, he's typically playing 20+ safe minutes and doesn't need to be sheltered. Only thing he can't do is play on the PP

 

[capfit9]

Galaxy Brain from Boy Genius

 

[Jozay]

None of those players are easy to replace. I think trying to replace your 2M defenseman that is signed for a couple more years who has shown plenty of good moments and plays a pretty good defensive roll is pretty good to keep.

I disagree. I dont think it would be very hard to find a dman to give you what Holl gives you at all.

At the end of the day, the Leafs are willing to lose a middle six forward for a bottom pair dman. That just doesnt make sense.

 

[smitty10]

This would make no sense. Holl is not worth protecting. Wtf?

 

[Leaf Fans]

That is so.. disappointing.
Pumped on McCann for under 24 hours

We might still have him. Seattle can only choose one of our players.

 

[Morgs]

Honestly I view him as a fringe top 4 guy, but I think you're paying a premium to replace that role and the team clearly has a lot more confidence than I do in him with his usage.

I'm more upset it is sounding like another year of Liljegren not being "good enough" or "blocked" by trash like Holl.

 

[Gallagbi]

Then why pick up McCann?

So essentially lose Hallinder and a 7th in the expansion.

If someone proposed that a month ago everyone jumps

 

[SprDaVE]

I disagree. I dont think it would be very hard to find a dman to give you what Holl gives you at all.

At the end of the day, the Leafs are willing to lose a middle six forward for a bottom pair dman. That just doesnt make sense.

I think the difference here is that Holl isn't seen as a bottom pairing defenseman and he didn't play bottom pairing minutes. I'm not sure you're going to get better than Holl at 2M for his quality and I think you're being incredibly generous if you think so.

I like Kerfoot and he's a good player but... I think he's a lot easier to replace at 3.5M. Some one that can pot ~30 points and play a secondary role.

 

[DarkKnight]

I could have cared less if we lost Kerfoot during the regular season, but he was a standout in the playoffs, under less than ideal circumstances, moving into the 2 hole.