Post-Game Talk: Leafs embarrass Berube again

[PROUD PAPA]

We need some net front presence to get the pp going. Right now all 4 pkers are free to clog lanes and cover/close on anyone in a high danger area as soon as they receive a pass. You have to keep a couple of them pre-occupied with physical battles and make the other two try and close down the rest of the zone.
If they’re not going to do that and insist on sticking to the perimeter then at least get mobile and try and open up lanes. What we’re doing now is hopeless.

 

[Stephen]

The difference between Woll and Stolarz is the shitty goal that costs you games. That third goal should never go in. I can’t recall a soft goal allowed by Stolarz. I’m not pinning the loss on Woll, but he has a huge weakness that he needs to address. He allows point shots to go in too many times.

Woll has been dealing with so many injury issues and yet 2/3 of his starts have been against his sentimental favorite Blues. It just annoys me personally that a guy who is so unavailable due to this and that still manages to get all the plum starts. Go back to Stolarz and let this guy fight for time.

 

[wingman75]

I've said time and again that I wouldn't bring Tavares back, but guessing leafs management thinks otherwise.

I thought he was good tonight.

I think he's coming back. But for how much?

 

[Antropovsky]

The difference between Woll and Stolarz is the shitty goal that costs you games. That third goal should never go in. I can’t recall a soft goal allowed by Stolarz. I’m not pinning the loss on Woll, but he has a huge weakness that he needs to address. He allows point shots to go in too many times.

So does 9.5 million Vasy.

 

[3blizzard4]

Past few years we have been saying its the playoffs that matter.

Those years we were high tempo fun regular season games and winning most them.

This year, regular season games are a slog. Hopefully when playoffs come we make the playoffs and do some damage.

But I definitely miss the new coach bump.

 

[Squiffy]

Tavares is hit and miss and largely mediocre, but I think we have an Auston Matthews level problem this season. Highest paid player in the game basically giving you low end 1st line center minutes, unreliable two way play and just double clutching on special teams.

He'll get going on a heater, least of our concerns. AM is clutching a bit, you're right.

 

[Leafs98]

When does the thread about what to do with 20mil in cap next year begin? There is no hero Keefe at the 20 game mark this year. Ride it out. There will be pain.

 

[stats1]

Matthews needs to start acting like a captain, omfg sure he shows out but day to day he sucks!!

 

[Stephen]

He'll get going on a heater, least of our concerns. AM is clutching a bit, you're right.

Feels like 2023 when he had a significant down year.

 

[Stephen]

Matthews needs to start acting like a captain, omfg sure he shows out but day to day he sucks!!

The best thing he did tonight was drill Ryan Suter and take that penalty in defense of Mitch but the offense needs to be more automatic and that team energy level needs to be way more consistent. But Matthews needs to be consistent with his own engagement.

 

[CabanaBoy5]

So does 9.5 million Vasy.

We comparing Vasy to Woll? Your argument has lost all credibility.

 

[Squiffy]

Nah, no injury liggering concerns

Feels like 2023 when he had a significant down year.

Nah, no injury lingering concerns, just figuring out a new coach, new coach figuring out him. I think he's dialled in on defensive effort a bit right now. He'll get 50 and then how many more.

 

[thewave]

Break up Marner and Matthews. AM needs a new winger to adapt to that changes his play style. They have no jam the fires gone. The producing is half hearted.

Marner out. Anyone else in.

 

[Stephen]

Nah, no injury liggering concerns

Nah, no injury lingering concerns, just figuring out a new coach, new coach figuring out him. I think he's dialled in on defensive effort a bit right now. He'll get 50 and then how many more.

50 will be a miracle the way things are going. Not a matter of a heater either.

 

[Squiffy]

50 will be a miracle the way things are going. Not a matter of a heater either.

He's on pace for 35 and been stone cold.

 

[MilkofthePoppy]

He can have a down year if, by some miracle, he explodes in the playoffs.

 

[ZEBROA]

2 shots from Matthews 6 from Marner = lost game. Not a knock att Marner but at Matthews. Great that Marner shoots more , not so great that Matthews shoot less then Marner.

Onto next. Overall i got a feeling the play better with Stoolie.

 

[ANDI P IS CUTE]

put reeves in front on pp ffs.

 

[sampollock]

The best thing he did tonight was drill Ryan Suter and take that penalty in defense of Mitch but the offense needs to be more automatic and that team energy level needs to be way more consistent. But Matthews needs to be consistent with his own engagement.

From behind
But at least he did something

 

[thewave]

2 shots from Matthews 6 from Marner = lost game. Not a knock att Marner but at Matthews. Great that Marner shoots more , not so great that Matthews shoot less then Marner.

Onto next. Overall i got a feeling the play better with Stoolie.

Because Marner must get his super contract at all costs. His play sucks even though he has points at the teams expense. I can't believe that it isn't universally understood that this is happening, especially at a place like HFBoards.

The guy would fire 1000 corsi perimeter shots if he could. Even if his shooting .001%, his team in negotiations will say well, you just didn't have the right people playing in front of the net.

It's hilarious and sickening at the same time

 

[Cypruss]

The leafs. Go woke, go broke version of a sports team.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Reg season is overrated anyways

 

[hockeywiz542]

Maple Leafs' ugly power play sinks to new low in loss to Blues

With a dismal 0-for-4 showing in Saturday's 4-2 loss to the banged-up Blues, the Maple Leafs officially own the worst power play in the league.

www.sportsnet.ca

With a dismal 0-for-4 showing in Saturday's 4-2 loss to the banged-up St. Louis Blues — so much for head coach Craig Berube's revenge or starter Joseph Woll's emotional hometown debut — the Maple Leafs officially own the worst power play in the league.

Following their scoreless four attempts in St. Louis, the Leafs are 3-for-38 on the season for a 32nd-place 7.8 per cent success rate on the season.

Barf.

The falloff of Toronto's PP is as precipitous as Vince McMahon's. After finishing first overall in 2021-22, second in 2022-23, and seventh in 2023-24, the Maple Leafs went 1-for-21 in their first-round playoff loss to the Boston Bruins.

To remedy the issue, head coach Craig Berube hired go-to assistant Marc Savard from Calgary and originally stuck with the Core Five: Auston Matthews, Mitch Marner, William Nylander, John Tavares, and Morgan Rielly.

Berube was banking on years-long chemistry and past success. He was betting that a great power-play player makes a great power-play coach — even if Savard's PP in Calgary scuffled to 17.9 per cent (26th overall) before he and the Flames cut ties over the summer.

Ultimately, we don't blame the coaching staff here. (How many power-play coaches has this core exhausted?)

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"It's about results in the end," Berube told reporters. "I think we got two pretty good units right now, and that's the way we gotta go forward here. Whoever's doing the job will get an opportunity."

"It seems like it's flowing much better with the two units," Matthews agreed. "Good opportunities. I think the puck's getting moved around well. It's just a matter of time. You see one go in and get the confidence back and take it from there."

Zone entries are an issue. So is urgency. And penalties taken while on the power play — the ol' self-kill — don't help either.

Mitch Marner scored a nifty opening goal Saturday in a dominant first period to give Toronto a nice 1-0 lead on the road. He also high-sticked Ryan Suter in the O-zone while the Leafs held a man-advantage late in the second, contributing to the home side's momentum in the second.

 

[ruaware41]

The game ended at least 4 hours ago and seeing the fact that this PGT is only at 8 pages you'd think this was the Dallas Stars board not the Toronto Maple Leafs. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice... Fool me 6 times..

It's interesting and shocking to see that I'm not the only one that finds the Leafs play year over year very routine anymore. Good stretches, never win and rarely show up for important milestone games for a staff/player, never win when the odds are heavily in their favour and get humiliated instead (i.e. the game vs the Providence Bruins with their whole roster injured or the game against the emergency back up), make it evident from their play/character they won't make it past the 1st round yet breeze into the playoffs anyway, and lose in 7 games. Rinse and repeat.

I haven't watched a single complete game this year even though I avidly did in the past and it's clear it's not just me getting older but that there's a very large number of people now who are no longer buying seats on the hype train, Berube or not, new captain or not.

 

[hockeyes]

The leafs. Go woke, go broke version of a sports team.

Csn you elaborate? Because this sounds stupid

The game ended at least 4 hours ago and seeing the fact that this PGT is only at 8 pages you'd think this was the Dallas Stars board not the Toronto Maple Leafs. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice... Fool me 6 times..

It's interesting and shocking to see that I'm not the only one that finds the Leafs play year over year very routine anymore. Good stretches, never win and rarely show up for important milestone games for a staff/player, never win when the odds are heavily in their favour and get humiliated instead (i.e. the game vs the Providence Bruins with their whole roster injured or the game against the emergency back up), make it evident from their play/character they won't make it past the 1st round yet breeze into the playoffs anyway, and lose in 7 games. Rinse and repeat.

I haven't watched a single complete game this year even though I avidly did in the past and it's clear it's not just me getting older but that there's a very large number of people now who are no longer buying seats on the hype train, Berube or not, new captain or not.

I've watched about 7 periods total so far and they look like the same bums as last year.