Post-Game Talk: Leafs Eliminated.

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What pains me is if we had players like Perry, Bennett or Gudas we’d be wearing their jerseys for their antics. But we have Kerfoot, Holl and the most useless talented $11M players in Leafs history.
 
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I mean everything I've ever said, ever.
Auston Matthews has never once left it all out on the ice, he never once rose to the occasion and perhaps if he had he'd be sporting a couple of shiny rings.

Dave Keon

Tim Horton

Teeder Kennedy

Syl Apps

George Armstrong

Bob Baun

Borje Salming

Johnny Bower

Turk Broda

And to a lesser extent

Darryl Sittler

Doug Gilmour

Wendel Clark

Mats Sundin

60 goals and a Hart sure are pretty, but Matthews doesn't belong anywhere alongside of those men I mentioned.

Sorry, can you explain this? Are you saying Matthews and Marner can be moved on draft day before their clauses kick in? It's so, I'm f***ing cleaning house completely and starting insert 3 with a bucket still of picks and prospects.
Yep the trade market is open and the NTCs aren't yet activated
 
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Nice hockey play by Gudas there. :biglaugh:

The game is getting hard to watch. Even though I only watch the Leafs.

Ticky tacky offside reviews, goaltender interference reviews, missed calls, game management, makeup calls, phantom calls, icing calls that aren't icing and vice versa, fake parity, I could go on and on. It's just a joke at this point.

Watching the highlights from the CAR/NJ series and I see that the Canes won in OT on their PP and I just shake my head and laugh. Not saying the Canes didn't deserve to win or wouldn't have won the series but the officials decide far too many games in this league. It has really taken the fun out of it after all these years.

Shit, the announcers were blatantly talking about this the other night during play. "Leafs better capitalize now on their PP because you know the makeup calls are coming!" Ya, nice product NHL. Stellar job Gary.
 
Grew up in a leaf house, my dad a die hard born in 53

I went the way of blue for forever.. took the ribbing that goes with it

A couple years ago i found myself orgabically more neutral during leaf games... and less affected by losses

The series against washington i was excited.. i was excited with the mix of players.. i was excited watching kadri hit and komarov and martin patrol and matthews introduce himself

Over the next couple years this organically began to change.. i started not liking players. There are always players you dont care for or are frustrates by (dave ellett).. but this was different - not liking players because they arent likeable. This team's core group aroumd the last couple years is unlikeable.. everything about them in game to prep to production is aloof and high school pompous

Seriously this team has become painfully bland, disinteresting and unlikeable.. like it feels different when you watch a leaf game.. there is no emotion to it. I can watch leaf games and if you remove the 'blips - reilly beating crnak'..etc.. it is bland emotionless 9 to 5 routine crap

I dont want to hear about how pumped certain players get after goals and celebrations and awards.. watch the product and it is uninspiring bland crap

The core players are part of it, the coaching is definitely part of it, the management is part of it.. it is listless. If they arent listening to all options right now and look at anything and all being on the table right now they dont care.

Remember looking at players and saying.. we couldnt let him go no way.. or we cant trade him thats insane - i dont feel that attachment to any of them. Every single option needs to be on the table and discussed, not one player can be untouchable in this.. there needs to be better depth and emotion in our coaching and system.. and it appears there needs to be better depth and ideas from our management

It is sad.. because whoever said they lost this series when marner tried that stupid pass to matthews at the blueline i think in game 2 was right - that was the moment for me.. no word of a lie when i inside went f***.. they are doing it again.. no way. It is absolute garbage.. it is sad because i cheer for them actively with primary reasoning for my dad.. but sadly i bet on florida last night how pathetic is that

The people that are going to be here for next season and make the decisions really need to take a step back from the names on the jerseys, ALL the noise and alanlytic bullshit, ALL the reasons they talk about losing.. all the stats and leaders and 40 goals this and blocked shots that.. all of it and really try and figure out why these guys arent wanting to win for each other.. their play for years is what i said.. bland emotionless bullshit.. they play the same as they do in november - yes i understand a system and good team plays the same way all year but they turn it the f*** up come april - this team does not

Nobody can objectively look at the past few playoffs and see that next gear.. not at all - this team doea not dictate anythimg, they do not take moments they dont own games they dont make the other teams react.. none of it

That is what they need to figure out.. whoever that they is going to be, that is why this group is so unlikeable and that is why any sane person has to accept everything is on the table and needs to be discussed.
 
Those players would have been suspended.....Spezza got 3 games and he's Spezza lol
What pains me is if we had players like Perry, Bennett or Gudas we’d be wearing their jerseys for their antics. But we have Kerfoot, Holl and the most useless talented $11M players in Leafs history.
 
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I just watched some other teams post series interviews after a bad series loss. Tampa 2019 was a good one.

The players looked angry. They took full accountability. Acknowledgments that THEY themselves weren't good enough. That THEY needed to be better. That THEY don't find their performance acceptable.

The leaf players were still all "We had our chances." and "Puck didn't go our way" type of responses.

I hate these guys. I mean that. I actually hate them.
I feel your pain.
I used to watch every game. Not so much anymore until some guys are gone.
 
Nice hockey play by Gudas there. :biglaugh:

The game is getting hard to watch. Even though I only watch the Leafs.

Ticky tacky offside reviews, goaltender interference reviews, missed calls, game management, makeup calls, phantom calls, icing calls that aren't icing and vice versa, fake parity, I could go on and on. It's just a joke at this point.

Watching the highlights from the CAR/NJ series and I see that the Canes won in OT on their PP and I just shake my head and laugh. Not saying the Canes didn't deserve to win or wouldn't have won the series but the officials decide far too many games in this league. It has really taken the fun out of it after all these years.

Shit, the announcers were blatantly talking about this the other night during play. "Leafs better capitalize now on their PP because you know the makeup calls are coming!" Ya, nice product NHL. Stellar job Gary.
Add no honest fighting to your list, and the nhl has become zero entertainment value. **** their woke a***s. No money, no attention, no time from me.
 
Auston Matthews has never once left it all out on the ice, he never once rose to the occasion and perhaps if he had he'd be sporting a couple of shiny rings.

Dave Keon

Tim Horton

Teeder Kennedy

Syl Apps

George Armstrong

Bob Baun

Borje Salming

Johnny Bower

Turk Broda

And to a lesser extent

Darryl Sittler

Doug Gilmour

Wendel Clark

Mats Sundin

60 goals and a Hart sure are pretty, but Matthews doesn't belong anywhere alongside of those men I mentioned.


Yep the trade market is open and the NTCs aren't yet activated

Why are you listing a cupless playoff dud like Clark on there? Is a 60 point pace in the playoffs stepping up as long as you hit someone?
 
Well it would be nice but he won't accept a pay cut, that Hart and some of the media that continually pumped his tires made him think he's the best player in the league.

Call me crazy but there are are at least 10 players I'd take over him!
McDavid, MacKinnon, *Draisaitl, Makar, *Tkachuk x 2, *Stutzle, Bedard, *Jack Hughes, Dahlin, Power,

* due to much lower cap hit.

How many Toronto fans were saying the same when it was Tavares?
We were right about Tavares.
 


What's done is done but can't help but lol.

I can't believe anyone will actually bet money on these games


Not sure if I should laugh or what, but back to back years the series clinching goal that eliminated us was off of the exact same play :laugh: opposing teams player grabbing the defenders stick, leading to the goal. Last year Tampa grabbed Muzzins stick out of his hand as Paul skated in and scored, this year it was Gudas.

We still didn't play anywhere near good enough to win the series, so I can live with it in this series.
 
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Nice hockey play by Gudas there. :biglaugh:

The game is getting hard to watch. Even though I only watch the Leafs.

Ticky tacky offside reviews, goaltender interference reviews, missed calls, game management, makeup calls, phantom calls, icing calls that aren't icing and vice versa, fake parity, I could go on and on. It's just a joke at this point.

Watching the highlights from the CAR/NJ series and I see that the Canes won in OT on their PP and I just shake my head and laugh. Not saying the Canes didn't deserve to win or wouldn't have won the series but the officials decide far too many games in this league. It has really taken the fun out of it after all these years.

Shit, the announcers were blatantly talking about this the other night during play. "Leafs better capitalize now on their PP because you know the makeup calls are coming!" Ya, nice product NHL. Stellar job Gary.
I agree the league has issues. You did say all I needed to know. Since many of you only watch the Leafs have no idea what supposed team leaders do in the playoffs. Look around the league for once and you will see what actual top players do in the playoffs. Just go back to last year with Draisaitl on one leg leaving it all out there.
 

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