Proposal: Leafs - Canucks , leafs - Bluejackets

Judas Tavares

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Leafs shouldn't give this package for someone who doesn't come with an extension. Would be an absolute error. CBJ deal doesn't work from either side for reasons already mentioned.
 

McJedi

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Leafs - 1st 2023 3rd 2023, Liligren , Engvall
Canucks- Horvat 50% retained , Schenn

Leafs - . 1st 2024 , Niemela, Hirvonen ,
BlueJackets - Boone Jenner

Trade Kerfoot for a 2nd or 3rd

Playoff team

Bunting - Matthews- Marner
Horvat - Tavares- Nylander
Jenner- Kempf- Jarnkrok
Hunt- Holmberg - Reese

Rielly- Brodie
Sandin - Holl
Gio - Schenn
Benn - Timmins
That’s underwhelming for Vancouver. I’d ask for more as their GM. Probably Knies.
 
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jonlin

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I think the Finnish Manager wants a change and give Laine the C ,, Manger likes his Finnish players
No chance in hell Kekäläinen would give Laine a C. Never. BTW, he really doesnt trade for or draft Finnish players usually.
 

turkulad

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Liljegren is 23. I'd say go for it as a VAN fan. Would move Engvall immediately to another team as a rental to get another future asset.
 

Dion TheFluff

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Leafs - 1st 2023 3rd 2023, Liligren , Engvall































































Canucks- Horvat 50% retained , Schenn































































































































Leafs - . 1st 2024 , Niemela, Hirvonen ,































































BlueJackets - Boone Jenner































































































































Trade Kerfoot for a 2nd or 3rd































































































































Playoff team































































































































Bunting - Matthews- Marner































































Horvat - Tavares- Nylander































































Jenner- Kempf- Jarnkrok































































Hunt- Holmberg - Reee































































































































Rielly- Brodie































































Sandin - Holl































































Gio - Schenn































































Benn - Timmins































































not a chance I move Liljegren plus a a 1st for 2 eentals



Leafs - 1st 2023 3rd 2023, Liligren , Engvall

Canucks- Horvat 50% retained , Schenn



Leafs - . 1st 2024 , Niemela, Hirvonen ,

BlueJackets - Boone Jenner



Trade Kerfoot for a 2nd or 3rd



Playoff team



Bunting - Matthews- Marner

Horvat - Tavares- Nylander

Jenner- Kempf- Jarnkrok

Hunt- Holmberg - Reese



Rielly- Brodie

Sandin - Holl

Gio - Schenn

Benn - Timmins
 

ToDavid

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I think the Finnish Manager wants a change and give Laine the C ,, Manger likes his Finnish players


Why pass on #1 ? Horvat will help put the leafs over the top ,, the leafs are in a now win mode,, Timmins will take Liligren spot moving forward .

Timmins is looking like a decent reclamation project a handful of games in but hold your horses lol.

Pass on both.
 
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vancityluongo

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i'd take liljegren + 1st coming back for horvat at the deadline, and schenn for engvall is in our favor

not sure what the rest of y'all are on. we should be pretty happy with that package. retaining 50% for two months doesn't mean much.
 
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TheDoldrums

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People do not understand who Timothy Liljegren is and how valuable he is to the Leafs. He's one of the best defenders on a really good defensive team. He's 23, signed super cheap for the next couple of seasons and will still be a RFA after that. The Leafs are not moving him, full stop.

Outside of Matthews/Marner/Nylander he's as untouchable as anyone else on the team imo.
 

thusk

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Vancouver passes, Not enough for both Horvat and Schenn retained.

And once again the Blue Jackets aren't trading their Captain Boone jenner

Mmm let me thing about getting a 23 y/o top 4 dman for at least 4 year, a 1st and and B prospect

For a #2 NHL C for 20 game+ 1 playoff run and a 6th D

Mmm im not sure... liljegren alone right now how he actually play probably having more value than the entire deal leafs get...And the funiest thing, you think nuck will reject a top 4 etablish dman for a rental...
 
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Number1RedWingsFan52

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Mmm let me thing about getting a 23 y/o top 4 dman for at least 4 year, a 1st and and B prospect

For a #2 NHL C for 20 game+ 1 playoff run and a 6th D

Mmm im not sure... liljegren alone right now how he actually play probably having more value than the entire deal leafs get...And the funiest thing, you think nuck will reject a top 4 etablish dman for a rental...
You just said it yourself, Horvat is a pure rental for the Leafs, So Dubas isn't trading Lilly for a rental and there's no way Dubas is paying Horvat between $8,500,000 to $9,000,000 per to play 3C in Toronto either.
 

thusk

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You just said it yourself, Horvat is a pure rental for the Leafs, So Dubas isn't trading Lilly for a rental and there's no way Dubas is paying Horvat between $8,500,000 to $9,000,000 per to play 3C in Toronto either.

Hes a rental player for every team...like every player with one year remaining, a player team need to trade because they will lost him for nothing for around 20 game+ playoff and maybe find an agreement to extend before he reach the market.. thats exactly what a rental player is.. you cant expect price of horvat sith a 5- 6 years contract, he dont have it

So nUck will get value for a one year remaining horvat
 
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I think the Finnish Manager wants a change and give Laine the C ,, Manger likes his Finnish players











Why pass on #1 ? Horvat will help put the leafs over the top ,, the leafs are in a now win mode,, Timmins will take Liligren spot moving forwarNod .



I think the Finnish Manager wants a change and give Laine the C ,, Manger likes his Finnish players





Why pass on #1 ? Horvat will help put the leafs over the top ,, the leafs are in a now win mode,, Timmins will take Liligren spot moving forward .



Won't trade Liljegren for a rental. Timmins has been injured far more than he's been healthy, can't count on him yet.
 

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This is the type of trade leafs management in the early 2000's would've made. The type of trade which looks bad the following season once Liljegren cements himself as a top pairing D and the leafs have nothing to show for it because Horvat would inevitably walk as a UFA.
 
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