Proposal: Leafs - Canucks , leafs - Bluejackets

[Leaf Fans]

One day Leafs proposals won’t include Kerfoot… one day

There are a lot already. He is a pending UFA so perhaps he will be in another team's proposals next year.

 

[TS Quint]

That doesnt matter if barron and liljegren was similar at same age

Jason and nick robertson had similar number at 20, does it mean than nick is comparable to Jason? No jason is an etablished elite player and nick a player who still fighting to play in NHL. Jason value at 20 and 23 + nick doesn't have the same value than jason and is not even close . It an extreme comparaison to show you of what you telling doesn't make any sense at all...

Liljegren is an etablish top 4 dmen who already playing a huge top 4 role at high level...liljegren level at 23 and 21is not the same, its not even close. He was progressing really fast.

Tell me the last time a team trade an ETABLISH 23 Y/O TOP 4 DMEN for en rental? Never

Established top 4? 9th in shot share on the team, 5th in average TOI. Doesn't look established to me. One day he might get to be but it's not today.

 

[thusk]

Established top 4? 9th in shot share on the team, 5th in average TOI. Doesn't look established to me. One day he might get to be but it's not today.

First 8 game : only 2 game over 18 min
Last 18 games only 2 game under 18 ( and 1 of 2 he was injured during game and missed half of the game)

Last 16 game hes averaging 20 minutes/ game... look like ice time of a top 4 dman

 

[TS Quint]

First 8 game : only 2 game over 18 min
Last 18 games only 2 game under 18 ( and 1 of 2 he was injured during game and missed half of the game)

Last 16 game hes averaging 20 minutes/ game... look like ice time of a top 4 dman

Playing a couple games isn't established and he isn't doing well with the time he is getting. He's a bottom pair.

 

[thusk]

Playing a couple games isn't established and he isn't doing well with the time he is getting. He's a bottom pair.

Bottom pair of one of best defensive team in NHL and top 4 of majority of NHL team and thats easily include vancouver

 

[TS Quint]

Bottom pair of one of best defensive team in NHL and top 4 of majority of NHL team and thats easily include vancouver

Nope. A bottom pair Dman. Good for him that he's has your belief he can play top 4 on bottom feeders.

Your cherry picked timeline doesn't even help what you are trying to say.

 

[The Podium]

Playing a couple games isn't established and he isn't doing well with the time he is getting. He's a bottom pair.

He’s doing very well in top 4 minutes

 

[TS Quint]

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He’s doing very well in top 4 minute

He rarely gets top 4 minutes, its putting the cart before the horse to call him established as a top 4 defenseman. Relative to his teammates he does poorly in shot share.

Once he starts to look as good as superstars like Holl or Gio maybe start to talk about being a top 4 defenseman.

 

[The Podium]

He rarely gets top 4 minutes, its putting the cart before the horse to call him established as a top 4 defenseman. Relative to his teammates he does poorly in shot share.

Once he starts to look as good as superstars like Holl or Gio maybe start to talk about being a top 4 defenseman.

He’s played over 18 minutes (#4 minutes on the Leafs) in 17 of his last 19 games, one of those where he didn’t he left the game injured.

I wouldn’t call that rarely top 4 minutes….

 

[TS Quint]

He’s played over 18 minutes (#4 minutes on the Leafs) in 17 of his last 19 games, one of those where he didn’t he left the game injured.

I wouldn’t call that rarely top 4 minutes….

If you think 17 games is meaningful you have no idea what what the word established means or what sample size means when it comes to the stats you post.

It's pretty bad when you need to have him get his TOI handed to him because of injuries to call him establish instead of earning it. Reilly will be back and Timmy will still fall behind Brodie and Holl on the right side to his regular 3rd pair role he has earned.

If he earns his way in to the top 4 this year and holds it next year come back and talk about how established he is. Right now he is a fill in.

 

[The Podium]

If you think 17 games is meaningful you have no idea what what the word established means or what sample size means when it comes to the stats you post.

It's pretty bad when you need to have him get his TOI handed to him because of injuries to call him establish instead of earning it. Reilly will be back and Timmy will still fall behind Brodie and Holl on the right side to his regular 3rd pair role he has earned.

If he earns his way in to the top 4 this year and holds it next year come back and talk about how established he is. Right now he is a fill in.

He’s 23 years old in his 2nd season…. 17 games is 15% of his career