Post-Game Talk: Leafs beat Tampa + Refs 5-3

[Confucius]

Do what? does what?

Get 100 points per season

 

[Antropovsky]

Get 100 points per season

Ive explained this numerous times. He and Matthews should easily be 120+ point players, not 100. I also showed how Matthews paced 120+ without Marner last year. 100 point seasons is not impressive for two 11+ million dollar players on a line, while others are scoring 140+. Panarin put up 120 while his next best linemate had 77.

Im of the opinion that its crazy that Marners office literally is 50' from the net. Its where he seems to want to be. Is this not unusual?

At the beginning of the year, he looked like he was gonna play more physical and go to the net more but hes back to perimeter Marner.

Nylander too, but at least we are seeing more dedication to backchecking and also Nylander has played a significant chunk of mins without Matthews or Tavares.

 

[Confucius]

Ive explained this numerous times. He and Matthews should easily be 120+ point players, not 100. I also showed how Matthews paced 120+ without Marner last year. 100 point seasons is not impressive for two 11+ million dollar players on a line, while others are scoring 140+. Panarin put up 120 while his next best linemate had 77.

Im of the opinion that its crazy that Marners office literally is 50' from the net. Its where he seems to want to be. Is this not unusual?

At the beginning of the year, he looked like he was gonna play more physical and go to the net more but hes back to perimeter Marner.

Nylander too, but at least we are seeing more dedication to backchecking and also Nylander has played a significant chunk of mins without Matthews or Tavares.

Well if you are correct, we should be in for a great season, Domi in for a huge improvement.

 

[Antropovsky]

Well if you are correct, we should be in for a great season, Domi in for a huge improvement.

Not following

 

[Antropovsky]

People call Tavares washed up, but hes actually moving faster than Marner. If Tavares looks slow and washed up, than you need to be very worried about how Marners skating will age over an 8 year contract. Marners an average skater across the board, while Tavares actually is in the 70s and 80s this year in 18-20 and 20-22 mph bursts.

Marner 2024 and 2025

Tavares 2024 and 2025:

 

[Confucius]

Not following

Hopefully he will be playing with Mathews and racking up those give me assists

 

[Antropovsky]

Hopefully he will be playing with Mathews and racking up those give me assists

You're saying Domi will pick up the gimme points?

 

[Confucius]

You're saying Domi will pick up the gimme points?

No, I’m saying if you are correct in that Mathews plays better with Domi. The 2 of them are going to light it up. That is if they play together.

 

[darrylsittler27]

Why should a city that without the NHL would fold, have to beat the refs? It will cost you come playoffs.

 

[Racer88]

Assists are still worth what they have always been…..1/2 of a goal, that’s why they allow 2 per goal. The math doesn’t lie

 

[Mr_Fun]

Best player on the team through 22. Hes always in the dirty areas or the ice.

Meanwhile Marner picked up two more assists from 50 feet away from the net.

 

[Antropovsky]

literally the same argument thats been said about playoff Marner for years. He is too far from the net.

Thoughts after Toronto's Game 3 loss: Go to the net, Mitch​

Thoughts after Toronto's Game 3 loss: Go to the net, Mitch

After Toronto's Game 3 loss at home to Boston, Justin Bourne shares his takeaways from the game, including how to get Mitch Marner going, why TJ Brodie should draw into the lineup, and more.

www.sportsnet.ca

Snapshots of both his assists are attached. His second assist literally hit Tavares in the chest and Tavares scored after.

Im just curious if this is what posters think is what makes him good, that hes great at creating offense from 50 feet? Like I said, I didnt get past two highlights from the Edmonton game and Mcdavid created two slot shots from probably 10 ' from the net... one was a tap in goal. Havent seen any tap ins created by Marner. Plays from around the net are few and far between too.

Im just blown away how he seems to be on the blueline more than leaf defenders in the offensive zone.

Assist #1:

Assist #2

 

[leafs in five]

Do you think the Tavares goal was a pass? You think his intention was to throw a weak wrister that hit Tavares square in the stomach. That goal is all Tavares, creating something out of nothing. Same with Knies tip. If Knies isnt there, in the dirty area, easy save by todays goalies (though not unrelated to Marner).

Watching the Oilers highlights and in just one play Mcdavid sets up a slot shot that doesnt go in, he gets the rebound, holds off a defender with one arm while skating around the net and passes the puck to his teammate standing in the blue paint for a tap in goal. The entire play, Mcdavid operates in territory Marner never goes.

Even the Broadcast team made note of how often Marner is standing on the blueline in the offensive zone.

Im just perplexed, Marner is on the blueline more than our defenders.

no I think he put the puck toward the net and it resulted in a goal. I'm truly sorry you had to witness it

literally the same argument thats been said about playoff Marner for years. He is too far from the net.

yes it is the same argument you make after every multi-point game, with reference to this same article

 

[leafs in five]

Assist #1:
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in this still every forward is within a couple feet of each other. why is every forward that far from the net? what are they even thinking? you can't score from there, or even make plays that result in goals

 

[lipstickjunkie]

Well if you are correct, we should be in for a great season, Domi in for a huge improvement.

You keep referencing Matthews pacing 120 points without Marner last year. Marner also paced 137 points (and 64 goals) with Matthews out of the lineup this year. Marner must have one hell of a shot to pace 64 goals from "playing 50 feet from the net".

 

[Confucius]

You keep referencing Matthews pacing 120 points without Marner last year. Marner also paced 137 points (and 64 goals) with Matthews out of the lineup this year. Marner must have one hell of a shot to pace 64 goals from "playing 50 feet from the net".

‘I keep referencing” show me once..

 

[ACC1224]

This thread sure finished strong. Kudos to those replying to the nonsense.

In the history of the game has a player ever had more points that shouldn't count?

 

[Hellcat]

100% now it’s the Chiefs turn.
I miss hating the Pats, Chiefs have replaced them. So easy to dislike.

I'm sure there was a playoff game vs the Steelers in Foxborough in the snow where the Pats benefitted from one of those "suspect" calls. it's been so long now I could be misremembering.

 

[lipstickjunkie]

‘I keep referencing” show me once..

Sorry that was directed at Antropovsky

 

[ACC1224]

I'm sure there was a playoff game vs the Steelers in Foxborough in the snow where the Pats benefitted from one of those "suspect" calls. it's been so long now I could be misremembering.

I don't recall either, just remember Brady getting all the calls.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Berube effect!

Treliving getting his head out of his rear effect. There's a reason that every defensive comparison is to 2023-2024 specifically.

 

[ACC1224]

Treliving getting his head out of his rear effect. There's a reason that every defensive comparison is to 2023-2024 specifically.

I imagine the prior season would hold the most relevance.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Not the greatest game, but held on. The reffing in this one was certainly.. interesting, but what else is new for Tampa. Can't blame Woll.
Good to see Robertson score. You could see how much it meant to him. Hopefully it opens the floodgates.
Hope McCabe is okay.

 

[Dekes For Days]

I imagine the prior season would hold the most relevance.

It also has the added benefit of being misleading; resulting in a lot of people misattributing the primary cause.

 

[ACC1224]

It also has the added benefit of being misleading; resulting in a lot of people misattributing the cause.

What's misleading? Looks like they've gotten better, I think that's good.