Coaching is a serious problem.

[Lafleurs Guy]

The guy had 60 points last season…. That’s the reason. He is the only D with some NHL experience (Savard is on the downhill side of the mountain).

Personally I’d just trade him.

 

[morhilane]

The guy had 60 points last season…. That’s the reason. He is the only D with some NHL experience (Savard is on the downhill side of the mountain).

No, Matheson was annointed the #1D by management when they acquired him and until he's gone nothing the kids will do with change that.

 

[Hannibal]

He ripped them in the press conference.

« Ripped » is a big words for saying « im not talking about the refs »

That a soft statement.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

« Ripped » is a big words for saying « im not talking about the refs »

That a soft statement.

No it’s not. It’s all he said throughout the entire press conference. It was clearly a dary aimed straight at the refs.

 

[Hannibal]

No it’s not. It’s all he said throughout the entire press conference. It was clearly a dary aimed straight at the refs.

Well i don’t agree. It was soft. Take the fine and say it like it is or instead of chewing your gum during the game, ripped them appart live there. It’s good to defend your players sometimes.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Well i don’t agree. It was soft. Take the fine and say it like it is or instead of chewing your gum during the game, ripped them appart live there. It’s good to defend your players sometimes.

Fair enough

 

[WeThreeKings]

Well i don’t agree. It was soft. Take the fine and say it like it is or instead of chewing your gum during the game, ripped them appart live there. It’s good to defend your players sometimes.

Even that's too soft. I would have gone full Playfair and thrown shit on the ice and got myself ejected.

 

[Hannibal]

Even that's too soft. I would have gone full Playfair and thrown shit on the ice and got myself ejected.

Exactly.

 

[Stive Morgan]

It seems to me like MSL and the front office have hit the panic button and entered a "win-now" mode because they're all desperate to keep their jobs.

They keep saying one thing but then their actions suggest another thing.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

I’m not sure what you’re talking about here.

MSL had really good success developing players coming into this season. There was a really positive vibe and most people thought we’d be better than last year.

Yes, this year’s been a disaster for the most part but the team is slowly improving. I hardly think he should’ve been fired a quarter way into the season.

I mean look at Therrien he was here for years and destroyed the fabric of our club. THAT was nepotism. MSL has earned some slack.

So people expected us to be better this year: we aren't.
Players are progressing: Many took a step back apart from the blue chip talent.
MSL staying on is irrelevant to my point, he should've never been hired.

One guy had Carey Price the other didn’t. Therrien inherited a team that was on the cusp of contending and promptly ran it into the ground. Completely different situations.

MSL has already shown he can help develop players - Therrien was great at destroying prospects. It’s not even in the same ballpark.

I genuinely do not understand the obsession with MT. MSL is a guy with zero coaching experience who got a job as the coach of the most storied hockey team to ever exist because he was friend's with the GM.

I responded to someone bringing up MT as if he had a losing record, but he didn't. Now its he didn't have a losing record because he had price, sure but that doesn't change what I responded to.

That said, who even cares about MT? We can talk about any of our previous coaches and go in circles about who was good and who wasn't but it doesn't change the fact we hired a guy with zero experience because he was buddy buddy with the GM. That is literally nepotism. MSL would not be a HC in any other NHL team without experience prior.

He has not shown anything special to warrant such treatment either. It wasn't like he surprised and everyone said "Holy shit, Hughes was right". The question is more if we gave him enough time to fire him or not these days.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

So people expected us to be better this year: we aren't.
Players are progressing: Many took a step back apart from the blue chip talent.
MSL staying on is irrelevant to my point, he should've never been hired.

I thought so too. Then he turned around Caufield. Did great work with our younger players. Coming into this season almost all our prospects had improved. He did a great job on that front. And then this season started…

I genuinely do not understand the obsession with MT. MSL is a guy with zero coaching experience who got a job as the coach of the most storied hockey team to ever exist because he was friend's with the GM.

I responded to someone bringing up MT as if he had a losing record, but he didn't. Now its he didn't have a losing record because he had price, sure but that doesn't change what I responded to.

MT was the worst coach we’ve had since at least Claude Ruel. And that includes Cunneyworth. It’s beyond debate as far as I’m concerned. Carey Price carried him until he got hurt and then we plummeted to the very bottom of the standings. MT was bad on so many levels and it’s been well documented so I won’t go further than that. God awful coach.

That said, who even cares about MT? We can talk about any of our previous coaches and go in circles about who was good and who wasn't but it doesn't change the fact we hired a guy with zero experience because he was buddy buddy with the GM. That is literally nepotism. MSL would not be a HC in any other NHL team without experience prior.

He has not shown anything special to warrant such treatment either. It wasn't like he surprised and everyone said "Holy shit, Hughes was right". The question is more if we gave him enough time to fire him or not these days.

I don’t know why he was hired. I only know that I was really happy with the results coming into this season. What I thought to be a window dressing move turned out to be a pretty good hire.

This year it all fell apart. Maybe you’re right and he’s in over his head. If we fire him - so be it. I don’t see the urgency to do it as we’ve been improving in our play over the past ten games or so but every coach has a shelf life.

 

[WeThreeKings]

It seems to me like MSL and the front office have hit the panic button and entered a "win-now" mode because they're all desperate to keep their jobs.

They keep saying one thing but then their actions suggest another thing.

I don't see any evidence to support this at all.

They could have fired MSL and hired Montgomery as a panic switch.

They are literally doing 'The Rebuild season 2' for Crave.

Hughes earlier said they are still not compromising the long term vision of the reconstruction to help this iteration of the team and have made no short term band-aid fixes.

There's no suggestion or hint that they are on the hot seat. Molson is supportive of what they are doing as it is long overdue.

 

[teamfirst]

I don't see any evidence to support this at all.

They could have fired MSL and hired Montgomery as a panic switch.

They are literally doing 'The Rebuild season 2' for Crave.

Hughes earlier said they are still not compromising the long term vision of the reconstruction to help this iteration of the team and have made no short term band-aid fixes.

There's no suggestion or hint that they are on the hot seat. Molson is supportive of what they are doing as it is long overdue.

The way things are going they probably gonna pull a ''game of thrones'' with 8 seasons of it.

 

[WeThreeKings]

The way things are going they probably gonna pull a ''game of thrones'' with 8 seasons of it.

Most rebuilds take 5-8 seasons, so they could.

 

[teamfirst]

Most rebuilds take 5-8 seasons, so they could.

 

[rickthegoon]

It seems to me like MSL and the front office have hit the panic button and entered a "win-now" mode because they're all desperate to keep their jobs.

They keep saying one thing but then their actions suggest another thing.

Win now??? What? When did that start ?