Leafs at the Olympics

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With how WTA is stepping up, I really think other Organizations and Countries might just follow.
The IOC is trying to get it going but the fact that they believe everything is nice and all is a huge concern.
 
I'm disappointed that not one NHL player has stated they have no interest in going to these Olympics. I won't be watching.

You probably have different reasons for that sentiment but I agree. And I think it's overrated hockey.

I don't get how the no borders crowd seem to embrace the Olympics in general. If the athletes competed without flags, then I might understand their support for the Olympics. As I've posted many times before, why should I care about Bobby and Betty from Somewhere, Saskatchewan and Somewhereelse, Ontario who I've never heard of before performing in some niche sport no one in my family would have had the financial resources or opportunity to participate in?

Pure bread and circuses.
 
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You probably have different reasons for that sentiment but I agree. And I think it's overrated hockey.

I don't get how the no borders crowd seem to embrace the Olympics in general. If the athletes competed without flags, then I might understand their support for the Olympics. As I've posted many times before, why should I care about Bobby and Betty from Somewhere, Saskatchewan and Somewhereelse, Ontario who I've never heard of before performing in some niche sport no one in my family would have had the financial resources or opportunity to participate in?

Pure bread and circuses.
Have never heard or read this phrase before, its an interesting one.

Also don't forget the massive levels of corruption in the IOC! Like millions and millions (probably billions) in shady contracts, bribes, hell I think it's safe to say people are murdered on a fairly regular basis over the Olympics.
 
Can't wait for this. It's gonna be so much fun.

It'll also be interesting to see which players come out of the Olympics hot, and propel their team on a run once play resumes. Case can also be made about injuries too.

I know the players are excited too, Olympics is big boy time. They will lay it all out and some players might even learn how to further enhance their game playing in this kind of tournament.
That's what happened with Marchand when he met Crosby at I believe the 2012? Olympics. Mackinnon has also stated his game took on another level once he worked with Crosby and Duclair recently said he trained all summer with McDavid and Matthews and it's why he has had the improvement he's had. Playing with great players and training with them rubs off on you.
 
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How many NHL players are going? Seems like a very small percentage get any benefit for a condensed schedule. Selfish on their part.
It's not selfish at all.

Olympics comes every 4 years and allows for the best of the best to participate. Who wouldn't want to do that? It's an amazing tradition that I wish I could be a part of. The NHL and it's owners choose to condense the schedule, not the players.

The players aren't owned by anyone, they have every right to go. It's crazy the NHL prevented that last time.
 
It's not selfish at all.

Olympics comes every 4 years and allows for the best of the best to participate. Who wouldn't want to do that? It's an amazing tradition that I wish I could be a part of. The NHL and it's owners choose to condense the schedule, not the players.

The players aren't owned by anyone, they have every right to go. It's crazy the NHL prevented that last time.
The 'best of the best' play every night in the NHL. The Olympics isn't best on best.
 
The 'best of the best' play every night in the NHL. The Olympics isn't best on best.
Yes, it is. When you have multiple countries having all-start level teams that you don't even have in the NHL, it definitely is the best of the best. Just cause it doesn't include 500 other players doesn't take away from what it is.

The countries take the best players from around the world and form teams to compete in the tournament. Just cause Canada's 15th best forward isn't there doesn't the "best of the best" doesn't apply.
 
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Yes, it is. When you have multiple countries having all-start level teams that you don't even have in the NHL, it definitely is the best of the best. Just cause it doesn't include 500 other players doesn't take away from what it is.

The countries take the best players from around the world and form teams to compete in the tournament. Just cause Canada's 15th best forward isn't there doesn't the "best of the best" doesn't apply.
When that 15th best forward who is missing would be the best forward on a number of countries that isn't best on best. There will be many players participating that can't crack the NHL.
 
When that 15th best forward who is missing would be the best forward on a number of countries that isn't best on best. There will be many players participating that can't crack the NHL.
Doesn't matter. It's best of the best for each country. I guess you feel the same way for other sports in the Olympics then? Cause really, it's a stupid argument. Olympics is about the best athletes from each country participating.
 
Doesn't matter. It's best of the best for each country. I guess you feel the same way for other sports in the Olympics then? Cause really, it's a stupid argument. Olympics is about the best athletes from each country participating.
If you don't have the capacity and an open mind to understand a different view point that's on you.
Enjoy the Olympics.
 
When did I indicate that I never understood your argument? I understood it.

I also have an open mind but I strongly disagree with what you're saying. The Olympics is about the best athletes from each country competing for the gold medal. It doesn't matter if Canada has athletes better than the other as that is not the premise of the current Olympics.

It's why I said your argument doesn't hold any water. It has nothing to do with being close minded or not understanding. Considering I have a growth mindset and am always changing viewpoints based on new information, I am nowhere near close minded.
 
It's pretty obvious the Olympics with NHL participation are best on best, even if there are some lower tier teams in the preliminary round. Nobody could seriously argue against that.
 
My guess is:

Canada - Marner, Tavares, Rielly
Sweden - Nylander
USA - Matthews, maybe Campbell
Czech Republic - Kase, Kampf, Mrazek
Latvia - Rubins
Germany - maybe Michaelis
 
I'm surprised Tavares doesn't get more love based on his resume. Meanwhile, Zach Hyman was on the TSN predictions.
Ya I saw that as well.

I love Zach Hyman. I really do, and I have absolutely no problem with him being in the conversation for the team. I really do think he deserves a look. But there is absolutely no f***ing way he should be on that team over JT. JT does everything that Hyman does just way better.
 
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Ya I saw that as well.

I love Zach Hyman. I really do, and I have absolutely no problem with him being in the conversation for the team. I really do think he deserves a look. But there is absolutely no f***ing way he should be on that team over JT. JT does everything that Hyman does just way better.
i keep hearing that it is because of the "chemistry" with mcdavid, but any player could play with mcdavid. its not like mcdavid is hard to play with...
Put mackinnion and stone with mcdavid and watch them dominate.
 
Ya I saw that as well.

I love Zach Hyman. I really do, and I have absolutely no problem with him being in the conversation for the team. I really do think he deserves a look. But there is absolutely no f***ing way he should be on that team over JT. JT does everything that Hyman does just way better.
Exactly, mentioned the same thing in the games thread. To be clear the "tsn list" was actually Craig Button's list, and, well, Craig button.
 
My guess is:

Canada - Marner, Tavares, Rielly
Sweden - Nylander
USA - Matthews, maybe Campbell
Czech Republic - Kase, Kampf, Mrazek
Latvia - Rubins
Germany - maybe Michaelis

Pretty kewl we could be well represented and have multiple teams with our guys... can't remember the last time we had so many in the mix.

Wonder how many our munchkin rival frenchmen have going... outside of their goalie forgot his name....
 
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Have never heard or read this phrase before, its an interesting one.

Also don't forget the massive levels of corruption in the IOC! Like millions and millions (probably billions) in shady contracts, bribes, hell I think it's safe to say people are murdered on a fairly regular basis over the Olympics.
The phrase is almost 1900 years old, originating in Rome. "Panem et circenses" was a derogatory term for the way of appeasing the ignorant masses by giving them cheap food (bread) and distractions (circuses).

Today's equivalent in the USA would be McDonald's and reality TV.
 
Just bumping this because I am curious about our guys of course. Marner in particular... some here saying he should be a lock but others on the bubble. He doesn`t bang but his PK is very good, wonder if that will help his cause? Article today...

Team Canada general manager Doug Armstrong is looking to build a complete team that can play "an NHL-style game" for the 2022 Winter Olympics.
Speaking to TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun in The Athletic on Thursday, Armstrong said being a top offensive player may not guarantee a spot on the roster.
“The white noise can’t overtake what we’re doing,’’ Armstrong said. “You’re doing everything you can do with the Hockey Canada/Team Canada hat on. And personal relationships and personal biases have to go out the window for everyone involved. Also, you have to continually reinforce that you’re building a team that can compete in an NHL-style game, not a team that can compete in an All-Star Game.
“There’s going to be bodychecking, there’s going to be tight, defensive play. There’s going to be things that you want to make sure you have players that can close games out, that can kill penalties, that can do all the things that make you successful.
“So, it’s not just taking the top eight scoring defencemen, the top eight scoring forwards, and saying okay, ‘They’ll figure it out.’ You need a team. I think that’s what (2010 and 2014 general manger) Steve (Yzerman) and Hockey Canada have done for a number of events, is to make sure you try to check off all the boxes that make you a good team.’’
Armstrong and Canada's management team is currently working to zone in on their roster from the 50 players and six goaltenders named to a long list last month. While the list won't be made public, Calgary Flames winger Andrew Mangiapane confirmed his place on it earlier this month and Sidney Crosby, Connor McDavid, and Alex Pietrangelo were named to the team in October after the NHL and NHLPA requested three provisional NHL players be named by each country taking part.
LeBrun reported last month Canada was given an exemption to name six goaltenders to their long list due to uncertainty surrounding Carey Price's status. As a result, Darcy Kuemper, Carter Hart, Marc-Andre Fleury, Mackenzie Blackwood and Jordan Binnington were put on the list, in addition to Price.
Armstrong admitted Thursday that the goaltending position remains a question mark for Canada.
“I would say it’s fluid,’’ Armstrong said. “All the guys on the list have played some spectacular games and also played, you know, some games that were more normal. I think Hockey Canada has had one or two goalies that were in the top five in the league year in and year out for a couple of decades or longer.
“Right now, yeah, it’s a situation where we’re certainly not as concrete in my opinion as Russia would be, for example. There are certain countries that are very concrete in their goaltending, and we’re not one of them.’’
 

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