What was the draw of the KHL for Jagr?

[ManofSteel55]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[benfranklin]

I believe Ovechkin would've played in 04-05, as well.

Shit youre right. Re-calculating

 

[Leafshater67]

He was making 10 million USD tax free. Back then the KHL salaries were big.

 

[The Nuge]

Money for sure as people have said, but he’s also talked about the less demanding schedule. That’s got to be appealing at 36

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Pretty sad overall for NHL fans. Dude put up 123, 96, then 71 in healthy seasons before leaving.

Assuming he stayed for those three seasons and averaged 25 goals (which is a very safe bet. 30+ was more likely) and assuming no lockouts, here are my pace/guesses for him in goals:

94-95 - 22 goals (pace)
04-05 - 30 goals(guessing)
08-09 - 25 goals (guessing)
09-10 - 25 goals (guessing)
10-11 - 25 goals (guessing)
12-13 - 14 goals (pace)

Jagr would have finished with 907 goals

Wayne would have had +9 based on 94-95 pace.
Ovy would have +22 from 12-13 lockout and assuming he played in 04-05 as his rookie year, ill toss out 30 goals which we all will likely agree is low.

So today, we would be sitting at

Ovy 935
Jagr 907
Wayne 903

That’s a great fantasy!

Dude chased the money…..clearly he valued that more than his legacy in the NHL.

 

[CokenoPepsi]

Pretty sad overall for NHL fans. Dude put up 123, 96, then 71 in healthy seasons before leaving.

Assuming he stayed for those three seasons and averaged 25 goals (which is a very safe bet. 30+ was more likely) and assuming no lockouts, here are my pace/guesses for him in goals:

94-95 - 22 goals (pace)
04-05 - 30 goals(guessing)
08-09 - 25 goals (guessing)
09-10 - 25 goals (guessing)
10-11 - 25 goals (guessing)
12-13 - 14 goals (pace)

Jagr would have finished with 907 goals

Wayne would have had +9 based on 94-95 pace.
Ovy would have +22 from 12-13 lockout and assuming he played in 04-05 as his rookie year, ill toss out 30 goals which we all will likely agree is low.

So today, we would be sitting at

Ovy 935
Jagr 907
Wayne 903

Jagr was not beating the goal record, he was a bit broken by his last season in New York and he even said himself had he stayed he'd retire long before he actually did.

 

[benfranklin]

Jagr was not beating the goal record, he was a bit broken by his last season in New York and he even said himself had he stayed he'd retire long before he actually did.

And then went to the KHL for 3 seasons only to come back and put up another 120 goals before he finally couldnt do it in the NHL anymore.

Obviously it was likely not going to happen, but injuries were never a problem for him so take away the lockouts and KHL seasons and he would have been very close, if not beating it.

 

[CokenoPepsi]

And then went to the KHL for 3 seasons only to come back and put up another 120 goals before he finally couldnt do it in the NHL anymore.

Obviously it was likely not going to happen, but injuries were never a problem for him so take away the lockouts and KHL seasons and he would have been very close, if not beating it.

He said it was more mental than physical

 

[Yozhik v tumane]

Jagr is still playing pro hockey, but at limited effectiveness in a league that’s below the AHL, maybe is at ECHL, level. I don’t watch any of the games, but part of me suspects (without justification) that his opponents take it somewhat easy on him

It’s possible, kind of how I couldn’t imagine seizing an opportunity to catch bucketless 52 year old Gordie Howe off guard with a fully charged open ice hit… but based on his Czech league stats, Jagr hasn’t exactly looked like a world beater you need to game plan around. I’ve just seen a few highlights and there’s no reason to think he’s allowed to just come on and “do his thing” for a bit and opponents will indulge him, if that was the point. I’d say he’s a super slow, big guy with some hockey sense. You don’t want your team caught on a counterattack with him on the ice, but he can protect the puck for a second, set up teammates and get close to the net. A 13th fwd set piece specialist perhaps?

@Czechboy, am I close?

 

[Zine]

IIRC correctly, he was mentally worn down, wasn't getting the NHL offers he wanted, and didn't particularly care for living in North America.

Playing in Omsk allowed him to make a boatload of money, play a lighter schedule and be closer to home.

It gave him time to re-charge his batteries as they say.

 

[Czechboy]

It’s possible, kind of how I couldn’t imagine seizing an opportunity to catch bucketless 52 year old Gordie Howe off guard with a fully charged open ice hit… but based on his Czech league stats, Jagr hasn’t exactly looked like a world beater you need to game plan around. I’ve just seen a few highlights and there’s no reason to think he’s allowed to just come on and “do his thing” for a bit and opponents will indulge him, if that was the point. I’d say he’s a super slow, big guy with some hockey sense. You don’t want your team caught on a counterattack with him on the ice, but he can protect the puck for a second, set up teammates and get close to the net. A 13th fwd set piece specialist perhaps?

@Czechboy, am I close?

Pretty much. It's not a glowing review of the Extraliga (which has gotten much stronger at the top for Extraliga standards) but he's still effective on a weaker Extraliga team. He is the Tyson Barrie of the Extraliga.lol Still effective in a specific role. FTR... if he sold the team and became a free agent, he'd still be in the Extraliga if he wanted to.