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LD Olli Juolevi - TPS, Liiga (2016, 5th, VAN)

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Olli always shows up for the big games, last WJC not withstanding. 2 OHL playoff runs and memorial cup run he was excellent, along with 2 WJCs especially against tough opponents with an aggressive forecheck. Even last year he wasn't having a great year but still elevated his game in the OHL playoffs where he was rock solid, made life tough for guys like Strome and DeBrincat and made clutch plays offensively. I still think he has a rather unique skill set should it translate over to the NHL as an elite passer, both on the breakout and the PP. Getting his skating back up to speed has helped him a lot this year, all of last year he was slowed down by extra weight.
 
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IComeInPeace said:
I don’t know that a thread on Olli Juolevi is a good one to discuss your viewpoint the Canucks are rushing their prospects.
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Funny enough, the Canucks aren't really known for rushing their prospects. McCaan and Virtanen are the exception but both earned their way on to the roster, when they made it. Outside of that year, the Canucks usually take a pretty conservative approach to development.
 
docbenton said:
Olli always shows up for the big games, last WJC not withstanding. 2 OHL playoff runs and memorial cup run he was excellent, along with 2 WJCs especially against tough opponents with an aggressive forecheck. Even last year he wasn't having a great year but still elevated his game in the OHL playoffs where he was rock solid, made life tough for guys like Strome and DeBrincat and made clutch plays offensively. I still think he has a rather unique skill set should it translate over to the NHL as an elite passer, both on the breakout and the PP. Getting his skating back up to speed has helped him a lot this year, all of last year he was slowed down by extra weight.
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aside from his 1st 4 games of his regular season, he's been putting up points at a historical pace as a under 20 player in that leauge. He's been playing very well since. People seem to want cherry pick his 2017 season and called it a regression, when he actually maintined the exact number of points while London losing so many stars from previous years.
 
lawrence said:
Not sure whats up with him. Ever since the Virtanen draft, he's loved a bunch of Canuck prospects. Not sure if he's for real or just sucking up to us.
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Watch that shift by shift package.

Juolevi controlled all 3 zones. Could have had at least 5 pts if Fins had more ...well, Finish
 
lawrence said:
Not sure whats up with him. Ever since the Virtanen draft, he's loved a bunch of Canuck prospects. Not sure if he's for real or just sucking up to us.
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He had Boeser ranked highly before the Canucks picked him and had Virtanen ranked in the second round before the Canucks picked him. It's nothing to do with the Canucks.
 
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Hockeyisl1fe said:
What's with your hatred towards Juolevi?
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you know he's not a Canuck fan right? dead giveaway as he continues to praise Leafs players, and took shots at Elias Pettersson after a game where he had 0 points in his last game.

disgrace.
 
Someone give me the objective low down on this guy. Defence have gone to nhl in his draft but not him. Why?
 
Dzonna said:
Someone give me the objective low down on this guy. Defence have gone to nhl in his draft but not him. Why?
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Needs to develop more, he's doing well in Finland and the Canucks suck, no reason to make him play in the NHL now when he's doing well with Salo overseas.
 
Basically this. OJ was always more of a project but he’s progressing really well, especially this year, despite what the narrative has been.
archer cartridge said:
Needs to develop more, he's doing well in Finland and the Canucks suck, no reason to make him play in the NHL now when he's doing well with Salo overseas.
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Dzonna said:
Someone give me the objective low down on this guy. Defence have gone to nhl in his draft but not him. Why?
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Strenght had been an issue with him, he probably bulked up too much in the offseason and it showed in his steps.
Had a weak camp, now has developed very well.
 
Dzonna said:
Someone give me the objective low down on this guy. Defence have gone to nhl in his draft but not him. Why?
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He was too skinny/weak when drafted, and even at the time, was considered at least 2 seasons away, maybe 3.

His last season in the OHL, after London lost key players, was either not as good, or at the very least didn’t improve significantly. Mete either became the teams #1 d-man, or co #1. His game stepped up significantly in the playoffs though.

He did not look good in Canucks camp 2 seasons ago. For a guy that’s supposed to be a really smart player, he’d make some significant defensive mistakes.

This past camp (his 2nd), he showed up having put on a very significant amount of weight over a short period of time (in an attempt to address a major concern before he could be considered NHL ready).

He was significantly slower/ less mobile. Still made the occasional defensive gaffe.

Started off slowly in Finland over the first handful of games (said to be at least in part due to the weight gain), but has been playing great hockey for the most part after his first couple of weeks there.

The biggest criticism/concern with him at this point (leaving size/strength out of it, as that will work itself out with a bit more time) is that for a guy who is said to be a very cerebral player (at least that’s how he was advertised at the time of the draft), he has brainfarts in the defensive end of the ice.

I think he’s actually going to be more of an offensively capable d-man than we were led to believe, and perhaps a guy that isn’t really conservative in his own end of the ice.

Sami Salo (assistant coach in Finland) recently said he’s coming a long nicely, and should be a good one if he keeps progressing the way he is.
 
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I can't understand the argument of him being a bust 'cos he hasn't "already" made it. He is 5 months older than Makar, but you don't see people claiming him to be a bust do you? Defensemen usually take a bit longer to develop and on top of that he was physically raw when he was drafted. He shouldn't have been drafted that early probably, but give him some time.
 
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lawrence said:
you know he's not a Canuck fan right? dead giveaway as he continues to praise Leafs players, and took shots at Elias Pettersson after a game where he had 0 points in his last game.

disgrace.
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I've seen you do the very thing you are constantly complaining about in several Leaf and other prospects threads.
 
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