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LD Olli Juolevi - TPS, Liiga (2016, 5th, VAN)

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Anything less than Juolevi developing into Sergachev makes this a disappointing pick altogether. We don't need defensive defenseman. We need scoring. We need offense. We desparately need a guy like Sergachev not to mention Juolevi has been underwhelming.
 
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infinitemile said:
Anything less than Juolevi developing into Sergachev makes this a disappointing pick altogether. We don't need defensive defenseman. We need scoring. We need offense. We desparately need a guy like Sergachev not to mention Juolevi has been underwhelming.
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Don't you need everything at this point? There will be room for solid defensive D-men too.
 
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infinitemile said:
Anything less than Juolevi developing into Sergachev makes this a disappointing pick altogether. We don't need defensive defenseman. We need scoring. We need offense. We desparately need a guy like Sergachev not to mention Juolevi has been underwhelming.
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Eh, it's a bit pointless to judge players in hindsight like that. If you want to see whether you got good value for your pick, compare him to the whole pool of players picked around his draft position from the last few years or something. Besides, it's quite early to judge where Juolevi or even Sergachev end up as players.
 
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Nice to see him having some offensive success, though that was a muffin of a shot that would never get past an NHL goaltender. In any case, perhaps this will give him a boost of confidence for the future.
 
infinitemile said:
Anything less than Juolevi developing into Sergachev makes this a disappointing pick altogether. We don't need defensive defenseman. We need scoring. We need offense. We desparately need a guy like Sergachev not to mention Juolevi has been underwhelming.
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False. Anything short of Karlsson is a dissappointment. You guys need everything and Karlsson is everything.
 
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False. Anything short of Karlsson is a dissappointment. You guys need everything and Karlsson is everything.
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Guys, as much as the point of @infinitemile is extreme, he's not wrong.

Juolevi was taken because we had not a single prospect projected to be the future of our D.
He was taken with the 5th overall and he was chosen over prospect like Tkachuk and Keller because the front office considered him a huge young two way dman able to be effective also as a PP qb.

So, I think is licit to set a high bar on him.
I hope he will be a future key piece of the Canucks and I hope to see an effective player on both side of the ice as a 5th overall should do.

And I'm extremely happy with his last two games.
 
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It really seems pointless to stat watch and talk about Juolevi's ppg. That's not really his game and will never be. He's a defense first guy that will put up a decent amount of points and wow with the occasional filthy pass or snipe but he plays such a safe risk free game that he'll never be a big point contributor.

I'd rather hear about how his play has been on the defensive side, is he engaged? Has he been getting beaten wide? Is he winning puck battles? These are the things Juolevi needs to improve and show he can do at a professional level against men.
 
Sheik Yerbouti said:
It really seems pointless to stat watch and talk about Juolevi's ppg. That's not really his game and will never be. He's a defense first guy that will put up a decent amount of points and wow with the occasional filthy pass or snipe but he plays such a safe risk free game that he'll never be a big point contributor.

I'd rather hear about how his play has been on the defensive side, is he engaged? Has he been getting beaten wide? Is he winning puck battles? These are the things Juolevi needs to improve and show he can do at a professional level against men.
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Truth, I can see Juolevi having a Mattias Ekholm, Hampus Lindholm like career, not dominate offensively but will play a solid all-round game - that will play top pairing minutes.
 
Juolevi is 19y, way too early to put very low ceiling projections on him.

He has lots of good things going for him, a strong ceiling if he can fix few of his issues. The biggest thing with him this year is to see how he developes during the season and looks on the final game of the season. The 1st few games while trying to adapt to new league mean very little in the end.
 
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It really seems pointless to stat watch and talk about Juolevi's ppg. That's not really his game and will never be. He's a defense first guy that will put up a decent amount of points and wow with the occasional filthy pass or snipe but he plays such a safe risk free game that he'll never be a big point contributor.

I'd rather hear about how his play has been on the defensive side, is he engaged? Has he been getting beaten wide? Is he winning puck battles? These are the things Juolevi needs to improve and show he can do at a professional level against men.
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He really isn't. This rhetoric of Juolevi being a shutdown defenseman has been very prevalent but it simply is not the case. He is far more offensive than defensive, and he struggles defensively. His offensive game was a resounding "meh" last season. I am glad that he is increasing his productivity in Finland because that will be his bread and butter.
 
Sheik Yerbouti said:
It really seems pointless to stat watch and talk about Juolevi's ppg. That's not really his game and will never be. He's a defense first guy that will put up a decent amount of points and wow with the occasional filthy pass or snipe but he plays such a safe risk free game that he'll never be a big point contributor.

I'd rather hear about how his play has been on the defensive side, is he engaged? Has he been getting beaten wide? Is he winning puck battles? These are the things Juolevi needs to improve and show he can do at a professional level against men.
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This. I honestly don't care about his offense at all. I don't need him to be a Sergachev. I care about how he's playing defensively. The Canucks will need him to be a rock on the blueline. That's why they drafted him.
 
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lawrence said:
So liljegren turns things around, you and praise him. (Which is fine) juolevi turns things around with 4 points in 4 games nothing from you. No comment,nothing positive. Fake Canucks fans at their finest.
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Beat it Lawrence not sure what your problem is with me I hated the pick all last year and he started off bad again this year. Now hes piling up the points GREAT. Still would rather have Tkachuck Keller Mcavoy. Hopefully that changes but atm not sure youll find anyone with any commen sense who would take him over those three guys.

Go read my post in the Canucks section on Juolevi from like a hour and a half ago bub :shakehead

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threa...land-tps-turku.2387795/page-32#post-137252189
 
I've read stuff like this online but does anyone else not like how he skates/shoots? There's something about him that just looks like he doesn't give a shit. He doesn't really follow through on shots etc.
 
infinitemile said:
I've read stuff like this online but does anyone else not like how he skates/shoots? There's something about him that just looks like he doesn't give a ****. He doesn't really follow through on shots etc.
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Yeah. Its Henrik like. Its just Ollis personality. He plays all the time like he doesnt give a f***. Never seen him show any kind of emotion. Shot, skating, hitting, everything.
 
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