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LD Olli Juolevi - TPS, Liiga (2016, 5th, VAN)

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Liiga would be a good next step for him. I'm disappointed to hear about his alleged attitude problems, but his tools are still great. When he matures a bit, he will be a good one.
 
I'm sure as heck no panicking. The last time he actually played in anything meaningful he was the best skater. ( London Knights)

Looked ok during exhibition. Nuck fans still complaining over passing up on Tkachuk.

Canucks fans = Writing off 19 year old prospects since the beginning of time. Of course Canuck haters will feed off this negative and use it to slam their high picks as much as they can. Any negative, spawns multiple responses. Any positives seem to spawn a different type of reaction of Canuck haters.
 
lawrence said:
I'm sure as heck no panicking. The last time he actually played in anything meaningful he was the best skater. ( London Knights)

Looked ok during exhibition. Nuck fans still complaining over passing up on Tkachuk.

Canucks fans = Writing off 19 year old prospects since the beginning of time. Of course Canuck haters will feed off this negative and use it to slam their high picks as much as they can. Any negative, spawns multiple responses. Any positives seem to spawn a different type of reaction of Canuck haters.
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Yea, because everyone was writing off Boeser and Horvat when they were 19. Virtanen and Juolevi get slammed because they disappointed in their post draft years, while the players that most of the fans wanted impressed in the NHL.
 
lawrence said:
I'm sure as heck no panicking. The last time he actually played in anything meaningful he was the best skater. ( London Knights)

Looked ok during exhibition. Nuck fans still complaining over passing up on Tkachuk.

Canucks fans = Writing off 19 year old prospects since the beginning of time. Of course Canuck haters will feed off this negative and use it to slam their high picks as much as they can. Any negative, spawns multiple responses. Any positives seem to spawn a different type of reaction of Canuck haters.
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https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Persecution_complex
 
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Has any 1st rounder gone from CHL to Europe to NHL and been successful? I know everyone thinks playing against men is ideal, but so far the only three I can think of are Goldobin, Yakupov and now Juolevi. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
 
93LEAFS said:
Has any 1st rounder gone from CHL to Europe to NHL and been successful? I know everyone thinks playing against men is ideal, but so far the only three I can think of are Goldobin, Yakupov and now Juolevi. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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Yeah, i think Juolevi is done for. Rip career.
 
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Yeah, i think Juolevi is done for. Rip career.
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Yes, because that's exactly what I said........... Stop being an over-reactionary to comments you disagree with. All I pointed out was that it will be interesting to see how it plays out. People constantly pump this, better off playing against men narrative, and it simply hasn't held true in the small sample size we have.
 
93LEAFS said:
Yes, because that's exactly what I said........... Stop being an over-reactionary to comments you disagree with. All I pointed out was that it will be interesting to see how it plays out. People constantly pump this, better off playing against men narrative, and it simply hasn't held true in the small sample size we have.
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Because it's such a pointless thought in the first place. Everyone is their own person and has their own individual path, no matter how the players who've taken a similar route in the past have fared. I don't think Juolevi has much to learn with the Knights, and maybe someone here can light a fire under his lazy ass.
 
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Because it's such a pointless thought in the first place. Everyone is their own person and has their own individual path, no matter how the players who've taken a similar route in the past have fared. I don't think Juolevi has much to learn with the Knights, and maybe someone here can light a fire under his lazy ass.
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Excepts trends exist, and it would be stupid to ignore them. The whole, everyone is their own individual allows people to throw out any historical argument they don't like.
 
That's why you don't go for the safe pick, calling it now. This guy won't be anything more than an average #4. you heard it here first.
 
ottawa said:
That's why you don't go for the safe pick, calling it now. This guy won't be anything more than an average #4. you heard it here first.
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Bud you're not saying anything that a good chunk of Vancouver's own fanbase hasn't been saying since the day he was drafted. You are not special unfortunately.
 
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lawrence said:
I'm sure as heck no panicking. The last time he actually played in anything meaningful he was the best skater. ( London Knights)

Looked ok during exhibition. Nuck fans still complaining over passing up on Tkachuk.

Canucks fans = Writing off 19 year old prospects since the beginning of time. Of course Canuck haters will feed off this negative and use it to slam their high picks as much as they can. Any negative, spawns multiple responses. Any positives seem to spawn a different type of reaction of Canuck haters.
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Victor Mete was better than him last year.
 
Yasuo said:
Victor Mete was better than him last year.
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Not in the playoffs. Juolevi got all the important matchups, top PP and PK minutes, and was a big reason why London beat Windsor and took Erie to 7 games, along with Thomas, Kuokkannen, and of course Parsons. Mete was just a role player when the games got tough and wasn't able to handle the tough matchups nor generate offense. He's a brilliant skater and that helps him in all areas of the game and also makes him look better than he really is.
 
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Was there any rumours of any other team looking at him or do you guys think he would drop to mid round if the Canucks didn't pick him?
 
93LEAFS said:
Yes, because that's exactly what I said........... Stop being an over-reactionary to comments you disagree with. All I pointed out was that it will be interesting to see how it plays out. People constantly pump this, better off playing against men narrative, and it simply hasn't held true in the small sample size we have.
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I think there's a lot at play when considering which league is the best match for a developing player.

I also think it's not very controversial to state that the AHL would be the ideal spot for a player like him. NA ice, franchise controls coaching and development, playing against adults, less speed than the NHL.

That said, I agree about being hesitant about the career path of CHL - Europe - NHL.
 
Crede777 said:
I think there's a lot at play when considering which league is the best match for a developing player.

I also think it's not very controversial to state that the AHL would be the ideal spot for a player like him. NA ice, franchise controls coaching and development, playing against adults, less speed than the NHL.

That said, I agree about being hesitant about the career path of CHL - Europe - NHL.
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Meh, most Finnish dmen take the all-Europe route. He's still so young that going to play in Liiga isn't really that alarming.
 
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Anyone know the situation in TPS? Any chance Juolevi can get top line minutes? Is he closer to getting an offensive role or will he be required to be more of the defensive type? I know he is going to work on his shot with Salo, but if paired with more of an offensive partner, it might take the opportunity or role away from him.

That said. I wonder how much weight played a role in him showing up the way he did in camp this year. He definitely has the determination to turn stuff around this year though.
 
Brobidus said:
Anyone know the situation in TPS? Any chance Juolevi can get top line minutes? Is he closer to getting an offensive role or will he be required to be more of the defensive type? I know he is going to work on his shot with Salo, but if paired with more of an offensive partner, it might take the opportunity or role away from him.

That said. I wonder how much weight played a role in him showing up the way he did in camp this year. He definitely has the determination to turn stuff around this year though.
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There's a chance he will get top line minutes and get paired with a former NHLer Henrik Tallinder. That, or on a 2nd pair with Heikkinen. I don't know know what his exact role will be, but I believe it's to be more offensive than defensive. I would trust our coaching staff on this.
 
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93LEAFS said:
Has any 1st rounder gone from CHL to Europe to NHL and been successful? I know everyone thinks playing against men is ideal, but so far the only three I can think of are Goldobin, Yakupov and now Juolevi. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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Yakupov was only because there was a lockout.
 
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