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The Zetterberg Era said:
I love the pace and speed of the game. I think the lack of physicality at times is the step down.

But I still think it is the best sport in the world even with an evolution away from the rugged version I probably prefer most.

I also don't necessarily mind that the third and fourth line guys aren't pure knuckle-chuckers that cannot actually keep up.

They are very different eras, but parts of the game are absolutely there that still made me love it like when I was a kid the first time I ever saw it and keeps me coming back.

Super teams have always existed and how these ones are being formed will also pass and we will have an issue with the next iteration that causes them to happen in a way that seems unnatural.

Smart teams and businesses always find their advantage and need a little luck that is life. We need some things to smile on us and we need to be in a position to take advantage of it when it does happen.
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It's maybe my favorite sport to watch on TV, baseball is my favorite for going to in-person.

The game seems more frenetic than in the past, but I don't like how little physical play there is, and less passing/skill. It feels like so much of hockey is chuck and run, and part of the reason I watched the playoffs and didn't come away impressed with most of it.

And for how much people complained about the us, the devils, etc. and our systems back in the day, I think it's only gotten worse. I think guys are so glued into their systems now that it is part of the reason we see less physicality. No one wants to leave their designated spot to throw a hit.

And if there is a big hit people lose their minds over it.

I'd also give away the fourth lines that skate and play D for more knuckle chuckers. On entertainment value, give me the fighters. It might be different if the modern fourth lines would routinely take the body, but they don't.
 
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JoesuffP said:
you have to go for picks here. You aren’t getting good value in roster players for Larkin. We should have been involved in this draft but now I think it’s too late. Might as well hold on to him until next years draft. Top 5 picks were on the board and we missed out
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I get the frustration, but that top 5 pick was for a D, and there is no way Larkin was ever going to accept a trade to Chicago. That trade was never coming our way.
 
DangerMouse said:
View attachment 1258598Dallas getting close?
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Seriously, we'd hear about this from someone far more established, if true.
 
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SirloinUB said:
We had 6 more points, but more importantly, who's trajectory do you like more?
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Pretty tough to answer with the Larkin thing hanging in the air. Is the Byram value indicative of the trade market?

But anyways. We have good young defensemen and no centers.

They have good young centers and no defensemen.

They just lost their 4th leading scorer and their 5th leading scorer is 34. Alex Nedeljkovic was their best goalie last year and otherwise have a hopeful goalie prospect who has struggled so far.

So yeah, as far as we have to go, I'm not going to sit here being envious of a team that was worse than us.
 
JohanFranzenstein said:
Gotta assume it'd be Larkin for Robo.

Could Robo/Raymond/Cat/Kane hide the offensive deficiencies our centermen have?
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I'd do it. Could attract a young center even(maybe not this year) to come play between Raymond/Robertson or... IF a sperate move is made for Pettersson you can argue the top lines maybe got better...
Wings have got to make moves to collect high end talent eventually or you just keep drafting and recycling bottom line players till you luck out with draft picks, and that strategy is a 4-8 year revolving door till you know what's going on... They'll never get anyone to want to come play here if they don't go get guys that are good so players will want to come play with them. They have money and have to hit a cap floor in the future anyways. Pay the guy(Robertson) 8yrs, 100 million plus like he wants. It's not gonna stop Red Wings from resigning anyone they really want anyways. 13.5 for Roberstson... or spread it out between Laughton/Roslovic/and a couple low end veteran signings...?

Roberston - Pettersson - Raymond
DeBrincat - Copp - Kane
Finnie - Compher - Kasper.
 
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If it is Dallas, its...what? Robertson? Bourque? Bichsel? They don't have picks to speak of nor do I think that would be the goal of the Wings... Hemming maybe?
 
Winger98 said:
It's maybe my favorite sport to watch on TV, baseball is my favorite for going to in-person.

The game seems more frenetic than in the past, but I don't like how little physical play there is, and less passing/skill. It feels like so much of hockey is chuck and run, and part of the reason I watched the playoffs and didn't come away impressed with most of it.

And for how much people complained about the us, the devils, etc. and our systems back in the day, I think it's only gotten worse. I think guys are so glued into their systems now that it is part of the reason we see less physicality. No one wants to leave their designated spot to throw a hit.

And if there is a big hit people lose their minds over it.

I'd also give away the fourth lines that skate and play D for more knuckle chuckers. On entertainment value, give me the fighters. It might be different if the modern fourth lines would routinely take the body, but they don't.
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I think the speed of today's game has taken some of the hitting out of the game. Guys just can't recover in time anymore. I recently re watched old Wings and Avs playoff games and guys were throwing hits and falling down all over the place. How many times have we all sighed watching Chiarot go for a big hit, and then take himself out of the play unnecessarily.
I also can not stand watching today's players get all pissy over a big hit.
 
JohanFranzenstein said:
Gotta assume it'd be Larkin for Robo.

Could Robo/Raymond/Cat/Kane hide the offensive deficiencies our centermen have?
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It would just be a waste with the centers we have . I’d rather have Dallas get involved with Anaheim Utah Montreal etc.. and get package with likes of hage McQueen Desnoyers solberg but zharovsky etc…
 
izlez said:
Pretty tough to answer with the Larkin thing hanging in the air. Is the Byram value indicative of the trade market?

But anyways. We have good young defensemen and no centers.

They have good young centers and no defensemen.

They just lost their 4th leading scorer and their 5th leading scorer is 34. Alex Nedeljkovic was their best goalie last year and otherwise have a hopeful goalie prospect who has struggled so far.

So yeah, as far as we have to go, I'm not going to sit here being envious of a team that was worse than us.
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And we're (presumably) about to lose our 3rd and 5th leading scorer while hoping our leading scorer will be interested in extending.
 
dj4aces said:
Or they just need to give us Robertson. We can afford him.

Don't be afraid to aim for the moon. Even if you miss, you still tried.
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This guy gets it. Make your own luck.

This staff needs to stop wandering around like a victim of 'cost' hoping the draft is your salvation because it's 'free' and young players are desperate to get paid.

Can you even imagine how Seiders 2nd contract is going to go based on how his first one went dragging out so long. He'll just hit UFA.
 
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dj4aces said:
Or they just need to give us Robertson. We can afford him.

Don't be afraid to aim for the moon. Even if you miss, you still tried.
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If he asks for 14 , so be it, we just need to sign Ed . One for one will be good for both teams
 
JohanFranzenstein said:
Gotta assume it'd be Larkin for Robo.

Could Robo/Raymond/Cat/Kane hide the offensive deficiencies our centermen have?
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I think the big player in the return will be Harley or something with Bischel and Bourque in it if we are after something with Dallas.

By the way Robertson could be going to Anaheim for big money and we are looking at a massive three team deal that seems kind of EA sports stuff. But you would have Nill, Verbeek, and Yzerman all in on the deal so the comfort level with the GMs in play here is something to really consider. Could Dallas be getting us McTavish to pair with other assets we like more than the surrounding parts in Anaheim and they upgrade to Robertson and keep their younger center plan with McQueen.
 
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wingsfannnn9191 said:
It would just be a waste with the centers we have . I’d rather have Dallas get involved with Anaheim Utah Montreal etc.. and get package with likes of hage McQueen Desnoyers solberg but zharovsky etc…
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Go back to the Minny comparison. Their best center is Ek. Best. They generate offense from the wings and Hughes.

We all want a great center but that deal might just not be there. If we can get a 90 point wing like Robertson, that's a helluva good alternative.
 
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