Player Discussion Lane Hutson Part 2

[salbutera]

Can you f***ing imagine Caufield and Hutson at 3on3?
My god lol

Now what about 5-on-5 playoff hockey?

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Now what about 5-on-5 playoff hockey?

Are they both getting traded or what?

 

[Redux91]

Now what about 5-on-5 playoff hockey?

Already know Caufield can handle it.
See game 5 OT vs Toronto
See game 4 OT vs Winnipeg
For fun See Game 6 vs Vegas

Obviously the jury will be out for Hutson
He also won't be playing 30 mins backstopping the team.
Odds are Guhle, Reinbacher , vet, we'll see.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Me neither....at least not right now.

Let him season and develop for 1-2 more years and then we see. I'm open to trade after he gets a little better. If we sell him before that I feel we won't be getting back even close to fair value

This is D+2; you have to be right if you trade Lane Hutson and I don't think they'll do it.

He has something we've been missing since Markov and with Guhle-Reinbacher-Xhekaj already looking long term fixtures for the group, with everything else we have including Matheson right now.. Hutson can be deployed very smartly should his defense/skating remain an issue when he's a NHLer.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Can you f***ing imagine Caufield and Hutson at 3on3?
My god lol

 

[Redux91]

Who's talent did we steal??

 

[SlafySZN]

Lane is back in the lineup tonight! Glad to see his injury wasn’t so bad.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Can you f***ing imagine Caufield and Hutson at 3on3?
My god lol

Some say that you win 3 on 3 through better defensive posture.

I would play Caufield and Hutson and add any mobile defenseman. In 3 on 3 play, the line between forwards and defense is blurred.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

I don't think I overly gush on Lane Hutson.. but I definitely don't see the desire to trade him. If we are looking at elevating the way we produce offense, Lane Hutson is the best bet to do that in the current prospect pool, followed by Joshua Roy.

What Lane Hutson does has a star quality to it, and he won't be perfect, but who cares, the rest of the defense and forward core that we have developed/developing will be more than adequate to hide his deficiencies.

Yeah I don’t think he has bad trade value by any means but his question marks would still make him far more valuable to keep than trade.

I’m quite confident in him myself but I’m sure enough GMs wouldn’t value him as highly as I do.

 

[HabzSauce]

This is D+2; you have to be right if you trade Lane Hutson and I don't think they'll do it.

He has something we've been missing since Markov and with Guhle-Reinbacher-Xhekaj already looking long term fixtures for the group, with everything else we have including Matheson right now.. Hutson can be deployed very smartly should his defense/skating remain an issue when he's a NHLer.

Not sure I like the sounds of that if you're implying a PP specialist that needs to be sheltered/something similar?

We also have to consider Playoffs get even tougher for players his size, especially on D. Stopping cycles/board play/puck battles/clearing the crease etc are all big weaknesses that he will need to learn to overcome with his smarts and skating mostly.

I guess it boils down to preference if that's how it all plays out. Having him on our 3rd D pairing being sheltered all game would really bother me, even with all his talent. I'd rather a steady stay at home defender like Struble if that's how we intend to deploy him. And then trade Huston for more firepower up front

 

[schwang26]

Would have been nice if Gainey had said that about McDonagh.

Or MB about Sergachev.

 

[dcyhabs]

Some say that you win 3 on 3 through better defensive posture.

I would play Caufield and Hutson and add any mobile defenseman. In 3 on 3 play, the line between forwards and defense is blurred.

I could see 3 on 3 going like lacrosse, change when you get the puck. Tough to do when you lose it, though.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Not sure I like the sounds of that if you're implying a PP specialist that needs to be sheltered/something similar?

We also have to consider Playoffs get even tougher for players his size, especially on D. Stopping cycles/board play/puck battles/clearing the crease etc are all big weaknesses that he will need to learn to overcome with his smarts and skating mostly.

I guess it boils down to preference if that's how it all plays out. Having him on our 3rd D pairing being sheltered all game would really bother me, even with all his talent. I'd rather a steady stay at home defender like Struble if that's how we intend to deploy him. And then trade Huston for more firepower up front

No, I'm just saying that you would want to deploy Hutson on o-zone starts and try not to have him out there against the heavier lines.

Adam Fox maintains a high level in the play-offs regardless of similar short comings and Hutson can do the same. What matters is that he's gonna get a lot of minutes when we are trying to produce offense and when we are trying to lock it down late in a game, he's not going to be out there. That's fine, we aren't gonna put Caufield out there with a minute left to try to secure a play-off win and that doesn't diminish anything about Caufield as a player.

He's probably going to be on the 2nd pair and will have someone like Reinbacher next to him and you can make adjustments to that as the game and landscape changes.

Firepower up front is dictated by the defense for the most part, we know what Markov has done for the team in the past. You don't trade Hutson for a forward and then have a lack of puck movement, QB and imagination from the back end as that severely limits what the forwards can do.

 

[26Mats]

Or MB about Sergachev.

I think we knew what we were giving up when we traded Sergachev. MB was just dead wrong about what we were getting in return.

 

[Scriptor]

Some say that you win 3 on 3 through better defensive posture.

I would play Caufield and Hutson and add any mobile defenseman. In 3 on 3 play, the line between forwards and defense is blurred.

I would play Dach, Caufield and Hutson.

 

[Scriptor]

No, I'm just saying that you would want to deploy Hutson on o-zone starts and try not to have him out there against the heavier lines.

Adam Fox maintains a high level in the play-offs regardless of similar short comings and Hutson can do the same. What matters is that he's gonna get a lot of minutes when we are trying to produce offense and when we are trying to lock it down late in a game, he's not going to be out there. That's fine, we aren't gonna put Caufield out there with a minute left to try to secure a play-off win and that doesn't diminish anything about Caufield as a player.

He's probably going to be on the 2nd pair and will have someone like Reinbacher next to him and you can make adjustments to that as the game and landscape changes.

Firepower up front is dictated by the defense for the most part, we know what Markov has done for the team in the past. You don't trade Hutson for a forward and then have a lack of puck movement, QB and imagination from the back end as that severely limits what the forwards can do.

Not that I necessarily agree, but I think the implication when it comes to trading Hutson is that there will be enough Ds left over in Guhle, Reinbacher, Mailloux, Engstrom, etc. to cover for the bolded part and that the value for HUTSON would allow us to get a high end forward in return.

Which ones are Hutson and Caufield? The looney toons' regulars?

 

[themilosh]

This is D+2; you have to be right if you trade Lane Hutson and I don't think they'll do it.

He has something we've been missing since Markov and with Guhle-Reinbacher-Xhekaj already looking long term fixtures for the group, with everything else we have including Matheson right now.. Hutson can be deployed very smartly should his defense/skating remain an issue when he's a NHLer.

Lane Hutson could fetch us that 1C prospect (top 15) from another team, or a soon to be UFA 1C which wont resign with club which we will pay for ~12M. That is where our needs are. He'll thrive on a team that already has big strong Centre depth.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I would play Dach, Caufield and Hutson.

That is a one way full offensive posture as the three players are not defensive stalwarts: Dach, limited skating; and both Caufield and Hutson small and not known for their defensive acumen.

For me, it would be Caufield, Hutson and Matheson as the first rotation. Depending on the level of development of our other young defensemen, the next rotation would be Suzuki, Newhook and Harris.

 

[Redux91]

He misses 2 games
And everybody wants to trade him now.

Man I hate HF why do I do this to myself

 

[Scriptor]

That is a one way full offensive posture as the three players are not defensive stalwarts: Dach, limited skating; and both Caufield and Hutson small and not known for their defensive acumen.

For me, it would be Caufield, Hutson and Matheson as the first rotation.

Like the option with Matheson, but I don't think that, one, Dach is as bad a skater as you make him out to be, nor is he as bad, defensively, as you imply.

He's also a puck possession beast that would help keep control of the puck with all the added open ice on the PP. He could also engage in a challenge for the puck along the boards in the O-zone, dominate the opponent and spring a soaring line mate in alone against the opposing G.

I don't think either is a bad choice and I give more credit than most for Matheson's defensive play.

 

[SlafySZN]

That is a one way full offensive posture as the three players are not defensive stalwarts: Dach, limited skating; and both Caufield and Hutson small and not known for their defensive acumen.

For me, it would be Caufield, Hutson and Matheson as the first rotation.

Since when does Dach has limited skating or isn’t good defensively? lol

 

[HabzSauce]

No, I'm just saying that you would want to deploy Hutson on o-zone starts and try not to have him out there against the heavier lines.

Adam Fox maintains a high level in the play-offs regardless of similar short comings and Hutson can do the same. What matters is that he's gonna get a lot of minutes when we are trying to produce offense and when we are trying to lock it down late in a game, he's not going to be out there. That's fine, we aren't gonna put Caufield out there with a minute left to try to secure a play-off win and that doesn't diminish anything about Caufield as a player.

He's probably going to be on the 2nd pair and will have someone like Reinbacher next to him and you can make adjustments to that as the game and landscape changes.

Firepower up front is dictated by the defense for the most part, we know what Markov has done for the team in the past. You don't trade Hutson for a forward and then have a lack of puck movement, QB and imagination from the back end as that severely limits what the forwards can do.

If he's on our 2nd pairing, it's inevitable he'll have to play against heavy lines against deeper teams. Teams will exploit that especially on the road when we don't have first change.


I agree that offence comes from the back end but it's not like we're screwed there. We still have guys on the back end that can hopefully help our offence like Guhle, Mailloux, Reinbacher and matheson (if we keep him). All of them can bring offence in their own unique ways. We're trading from a position of strength if we move Hutson (or any D for that matter).

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Like the option with Matheson, but I don't think that, one, Dach is as bad a skater as you make him out to be, nor is he as bad, defensively, as you imply.

He's also a puck possession beast that would help keep control of the puck with all the added open ice on the PP. He could also engage in a challenge for the puck along the boards in the O-zone, dominate the opponent and spring a soaring line mate in alone against the opposing G.

I don't think either is a bad choice and I give more credit than most for Matheson's defensive play.

As I said earlier, 3 on 3 is won or lost on a team’s ability to play defensively. While Dach would be strong offensively, if the opposition ever gains possession of the puck , Dach’s style of skating will be a liability in his efforts to contain an opponent. Just think of the time Makar, two years ago, was able to turn Dach inside out in overtime and score the winning goal.

 

[HabzSauce]

He misses 2 games
And everybody wants to trade him now.

Man I hate HF why do I do this to myself

Lmao these conversations are healthy at least unlike the Slaf thread....

 

[Redux91]

Lmao these conversations are healthy at least unlike the Slaf thread....

Lol I suppose so