Player Discussion Lane Hutson Part 2

[calder candidate]

Football and baseball are static sports.

I fail to see how that changes anything. Those position are even more specific and specialized so it should be a lot hard to switch and beat out other players playing and training for years and it happen every year. All the player on the ice are continually moving, switching, covering each other moving so changing position. should not be impossible.

 

[LesCanadiens]

This site likely has a more accurate weight for Svoboda on draft day.

1984 NHL Entry Draft -- Petr Svoboda

 

[cphabs]

I fail to see how that changes anything. Those position are even more specific and specialized so it should be a lot hard to switch and beat out other players playing and training for years and it happen every year. All the player on the ice are continually moving, switching, covering each other moving so changing position. should not be impossible.

Good points

 

[viceroy]

I watched him being brought in from the back when the Canadiens drafted him. I remember thinking that's a lot of hoopla for a skinny, skinny kid. I don't believe he ever got up to 198, I don't think he was close to that. He was thin, really thin.

Yeah players don't just lie about their heights but also their weights. I remember meeting Louis Leblanc back in the day and some people were saying that he was weighing now in the 190's up from like 180 and I was like nope. The guy was skinny, real skinny. I mean like 6' and maybe not even 170lbs.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

 

[Player 61]

TypeI like the Lane Hutson if Tory Krug type? Nice trade bait when Montreal can make deals for a Timo Meier? I like the development of Harris and Barron on Defense! You can't spend 6 Million a year per 6 defenseman! .. anyway? Wifi will cost at at least what Saverd is making. If were Lucky?

 

[Scriptor]

TypeI like the Lane Hutson if Tory Krug type? Nice trade bait when Montreal can make deals for a Timo Meier? I like the development of Harris and Barron on Defense! You can't spend 6 Million a year per 6 defenseman! .. anyway? Wifi will cost at at least what Saverd is making. If were Lucky?

Xhekaj is getting lots of minutes since last season because of injuries and getting to establish himself in the NHL much faster than he might have had without the injuries.

Don't think Xhekaj is ever going to play in the AHL, barring a conditioning stint because of an injury in the future.

However, Savard money sounds good for this player and I would try to sign him long term early to keep that Cap hit down. The Habs drafted his brother and that should make the family happy. Offer up 8 years at 3.75M, what a good 3rd line D will be worth soon as the Cap ceiling continues to rise.

I'd argue that a Kovacevic is a perfect, cheaper complement for a 3rd pairing D.

I would not trade Hutson offhandedly because he brings a skill level the Habs have not had on D in forever, if ever.

We'll likely start by trading Matheson in a few years as Hutson steps into the NHL on a team-friendly ELC.

Maybe Barron grows into a top-four RHD and Mailloux becomes a PP specialist who gets the 3rd pairing RHD role? Maybe it is the opposite?

Harris, I'm still the least impressed... We've seen what Harris is and, while that's not bad, we have better options, both on the left and the right, heading forward.

 

[SlafySZN]

TypeI like the Lane Hutson if Tory Krug type? Nice trade bait when Montreal can make deals for a Timo Meier? I like the development of Harris and Barron on Defense! You can't spend 6 Million a year per 6 defenseman! .. anyway? Wifi will cost at at least what Saverd is making. If were Lucky?

Hutson is absolutely not a trade bait.

They are not trading their best prospect. No other dman in the system in the AHL/NHL comes close to his elite talent level.

 

[Pickles]

Hutson is absolutely not a trade bait.

They are not trading their best prospect. No other dman in the system in the AHL/NHL comes close to his elite talent level.

Yeah he's a franchise player that kid. We have so much depth on D right now I wouldn't be surprised if one of these young defenseman is dealt for an elite caliber winger.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Hutson is absolutely not a trade bait.

They are not trading their best prospect. No other dman in the system in the AHL/NHL comes close to his elite talent level.

First of all he is not their best prospect and secondly he could very well be traded and I am teetering towards that being the correct decision if we can get a high end young forward prospect for him.

There is not a single GM who would take Hutson over Reinbacher or Guhle and I am not even convinced that most GM's would take him over Xhekaj tbh. If we can find a GM who loves him HuGo would be remiss to not seriously explore that option.

I would even be down to trade him for a high end forward prospect and then draft his brother Cole who is a better skater and looks to be a little stronger on his skates. This is of course provided that Cole has a great season this year leading up to the draft.

 

[Ligue]

First of all he is not their best prospect and secondly he could very well be traded and I am teetering towards that being the correct decision if we can get a high end young forward prospect for him.

There is not a single GM who would take Hutson over Reinbacher or Guhle and I am not even convinced that most GM's would take him over Xhekaj tbh. If we can find a GM who loves him HuGo would be remiss to not seriously explore that option.

I would even be down to trade him for a high end forward prospect and then draft his brother Cole who is a better skater and looks to be a little stronger on his skates. This is of course provided that Cole has a great season this year leading up to the draft.

Unless we’re talking trading him for a forward prospect that has a decent chance of becoming a 1st liner (core core player) which I doubt those are being offered, then I’d rather roll the dice on Hutson.

I would absolutely not trade him for a prospect who is kind of a lock to become a 2nd liner/good supporting cast kind of player. Habs need elite skills, getting good supporting players early in a rebuild would be their demise.

 

[Wateredgarden]

Hutson has a long road ahead of him before he proves he can play in the NHL. He might end up playing the same role as Mark Streit. He has super elite hands and IQ, but regular skating (mediocre backward) and the body of a child.

So i'm pretty sure a load of GM wouldn't offer much for him, you need to find the one that looks at Hutson like WTK does.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

First of all he is not their best prospect and secondly he could very well be traded and I am teetering towards that being the correct decision if we can get a high end young forward prospect for him.

There is not a single GM who would take Hutson over Reinbacher or Guhle and I am not even convinced that most GM's would take him over Xhekaj tbh. If we can find a GM who loves him HuGo would be remiss to not seriously explore that option.

I would even be down to trade him for a high end forward prospect and then draft his brother Cole who is a better skater and looks to be a little stronger on his skates. This is of course provided that Cole has a great season this year leading up to the draft.

Cole Hutson is nothing compared to Lane.

Unless we’re talking trading him for a forward prospect that has a decent chance of becoming a 1st liner (core core player) which I doubt those are being offered, then I’d rather roll the dice on Hutson.

I would absolutely not trade him for a prospect who is kind of a lock to become a 2nd liner/good supporting cast kind of player. Habs need elite skills, getting good supporting players early in a rebuild would be their demise.

Forget prospect. it would have to be a proven 1st line forward.

 

[Habricot]

Hutson is absolutely not a trade bait.

They are not trading their best prospect. No other dman in the system in the AHL/NHL comes close to his elite talent level.

None of these guys have fully developed.. It might be a completely different storry in 3 years and Maybe a guy like Ghule or Hutson become trade baits for a star winger. Not saying it will happen but saying noone has a christal ball at this point.

 

[Scriptor]

Unless we’re talking trading him for a forward prospect that has a decent chance of becoming a 1st liner (core core player) which I doubt those are being offered, then I’d rather roll the dice on Hutson.

I would absolutely not trade him for a prospect who is kind of a lock to become a 2nd liner/good supporting cast kind of player. Habs need elite skills, getting good supporting players early in a rebuild would be their demise.

The upside is too good to trade him for a supporting top-6 player, even if he is a lock to play that role.

It might look like poor asset management if Hutson flops, in the end, but, if you always play it safe and refuse to cultivate what could end upping elite talent, even if it's just talent that enables your PP to consistently be 20% and over for the next ten years, you'll always be on the outside looking in when it comes to competing for a Cup.

None of these guys have fully developed.. It might be a completely different storry in 3 years and Maybe a guy like Ghule or Hutson become trade baits for a star winger. Not saying it will happen but saying noone has a christal ball at this point.

Nobody is off the table, for sure.It depends how the rest of the Ds developed what player is being dangled in a trade scenario for one four Ds.

 

[Tyson]

I remember when Serge Savard was a relatively new GM he was getting calls for a prospect named Chris Chelios- I will paraphrase- Savard basically said he couldn't trade him until he truly knew what he had in Chelios. I would say this applies to Lane Hutson as well.

 

[Scriptor]

I remember when Serge Savard was a relatively new GM he was getting calls for a prospect named Chris Chelios- I will paraphrase- Savard basically said he couldn't trade him until he truly knew what he had in Chelios. I would say this applies to Lane Hutson as well.

For sure, the philosophy applies/carries over, but we're definitely not waiting toes the same typeof player emerge...

 

[26Mats]

I remember when Serge Savard was a relatively new GM he was getting calls for a prospect named Chris Chelios- I will paraphrase- Savard basically said he couldn't trade him until he truly knew what he had in Chelios. I would say this applies to Lane Hutson as well.

Would have been nice if Gainey had said that about McDonagh.

 

[CauZuki]

Would have been nice if Gainey had said that about McDonagh.

Agreed and on that subject the Sergachev trade was fairly bad as well , Drouin was underwhelming and is now signed on a "show me deal" on nearly league minimum salary. While Sergachev is a 60+ Pt D playing on the top 4 of one of the best teams in the league.

 

[larek]

Hutson will be a talented NHL player
No doubt !!

 

[SlafySZN]

First of all he is not their best prospect and secondly he could very well be traded and I am teetering towards that being the correct decision if we can get a high end young forward prospect for him.

There is not a single GM who would take Hutson over Reinbacher or Guhle and I am not even convinced that most GM's would take him over Xhekaj tbh. If we can find a GM who loves him HuGo would be remiss to not seriously explore that option.

I would even be down to trade him for a high end forward prospect and then draft his brother Cole who is a better skater and looks to be a little stronger on his skates. This is of course provided that Cole has a great season this year leading up to the draft.

Yeah because most GMs are stupid. Like the GMs who took guys like turcotte, broberg, podkolzin, soderstrom, before caufield.


Lane’s brother is nowhere near as good as he is.


Yes, their best prospect.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Hutson has a long road ahead of him before he proves he can play in the NHL. He might end up playing the same role as Mark Streit. He has super elite hands and IQ, but regular skating (mediocre backward) and the body of a child.

So i'm pretty sure a load of GM wouldn't offer much for him, you need to find the one that looks at Hutson like WTK does.

I don't think I overly gush on Lane Hutson.. but I definitely don't see the desire to trade him. If we are looking at elevating the way we produce offense, Lane Hutson is the best bet to do that in the current prospect pool, followed by Joshua Roy.

What Lane Hutson does has a star quality to it, and he won't be perfect, but who cares, the rest of the defense and forward core that we have developed/developing will be more than adequate to hide his deficiencies.

 

[HabzSauce]

Hutson is absolutely not a trade bait.

They are not trading their best prospect. No other dman in the system in the AHL/NHL comes close to his elite talent level.

Hutson is elite talent but his D game at the NHL level is worrisome. Not taking shots at him I hope he can do it but it's reality - he's tiny.

He should be fair game to trade if right opportunity presents itself.

 

[Redux91]

I don't think I overly gush on Lane Hutson.. but I definitely don't see the desire to trade him. If we are looking at elevating the way we produce offense, Lane Hutson is the best bet to do that in the current prospect pool, followed by Joshua Roy.

What Lane Hutson does has a star quality to it, and he won't be perfect, but who cares, the rest of the defense and forward core that we have developed/developing will be more than adequate to hide his deficiencies.

Can you f***ing imagine Caufield and Hutson at 3on3?
My god lol

 

[HabzSauce]

I don't think I overly gush on Lane Hutson.. but I definitely don't see the desire to trade him. If we are looking at elevating the way we produce offense, Lane Hutson is the best bet to do that in the current prospect pool, followed by Joshua Roy.

What Lane Hutson does has a star quality to it, and he won't be perfect, but who cares, the rest of the defense and forward core that we have developed/developing will be more than adequate to hide his deficiencies.

Me neither....at least not right now.

Let him season and develop for 1-2 more years and then we see. I'm open to trade after he gets a little better. If we sell him before that I feel we won't be getting back even close to fair value