Player Discussion Lane Hutson Part 2

[bcv]

Oh he got injured?

Time to release his rights, or something.

I thought smaller players learned early on to protect themselves and that because of that they didn’t get hurt? Something Dach never learned and that’s what makes him injury prone.

 

[jfm133]

OK you know better that Hockey db and Elite Prospects. Elite has him at 198 lbs, so he gained almost 40 pounds after entering the league??? I guess you were there in 1984 the weigh him. What can I say...

When svoboda first came up he was 165 pounds soaking wet - I don't think he was ever 190 pounds not when he was playing

 

[jfm133]

You are right on that and that has been a big weakness of this team for a long time and MSL did not change any of it. It's like they don't teach players how to behave on the ice to protect themselves while remaining efficacious.

The main problem with little players, especially on defence, is that they cannot compete physically for the puck and for positioning. The main reason Jayden Struble is so good defensively right now in Laval is that he is thick and strong. Not the tallest, but very strong in puck battles and positioning.

I thought smaller players learned early on to protect themselves and that because of that they didn’t get hurt? Something Dach never learned and that’s what makes him injury prone.

 

[larek]

OK you know better that Hockey db and Elite Prospects. Elite has him at 198 lbs, so he gained almost 40 pounds after entering the league??? I guess you were there in 1984 the weigh him. What can I say...

Yes I do because I watched the 1st game he played as Hab and all of his Hab career
Big talk then was his weight and if he could handle NHL game at his size- maybe at the end of his career he was
But certainly wasn't when he was a hab

 

[sandviper]

Bergevin did some real dark occult sh*t to get that cup run. That's the only explanation.

Except instead of the Grim Reaper, it‘s the Injury Reaper.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Thats not my issue with Hutson, offensively he looks like a young PK Subban, highly dynamic, imprevisible and tremendously talented, while I agree that he tries to do much at times, he still generates alot of chaos and scoring chances. The real issue right now is his defensive game, he gets lost positionally, poor gap control, 0 physiucality, its simple, he just doesnt compete in his own zone at all. He clearly needs to come back at the basics of the position, better defending will lead to better transition, less time stuck in your own zone, less scoring chances against and more possession time. He doesnt need to be perfect, just put as much energy, focuss and pride as you do offensively.

I wonder if he will be a winger at the next level. I don t see how he gets a D spot given how he defends.

 

[1909]

I wonder if he will be a winger at the next level. I don t see how he gets a D spot given how he defends.

He will have a hard time playing at NHL level. Especially if they keep him on D.

 

[Goldenhands]

I wonder if he will be a winger at the next level. I don t see how he gets a D spot given how he defends.

He is still very young and has time to improve his defensive game. Its going to be a process, but the offensive side of his game is just too good and electrifying to give up too quickly. Im not a believer in swapping position from D to F or the reserve at that stage of their development and something that rarely works out. Kandré Miller made the transition at 15 yrs old and it worked for him, but 19? Seems too late IMO.

With Lane, the defensive side of his game will likely always be a process through his carreer, but like I said, if he can improve enough to become at least potent at defending, then at worst you have there a 3rd pairing guy who can quarterback your top PP unit. Not bad for a late 2nd.

 

[RationalExpectations]

He is still very young and has time to improve his defensive game. Its going to be a process, but the offensive side of his game is just too good and electrifying to give up too quickly. Im not a believer in swapping position from D to F or the reserve at that stage of their development and something that rarely works out. Kandré Miller made the transition at 15 yrs old and it worked for him, but 19? Seems too late IMO.

With Lane, the defensive side of his game will likely always be a process through his carreer, but like I said, if he can improve enough to become at least potent at defending, then at worst you have there a 3rd pairing guy who can quarterback your top PP unit. Not bad for a late 2nd.

Definitely agree. I just wondered if making that switch would allow to keep the good part of his game without the bad

 

[calder candidate]

double…

 

[calder candidate]

He is still very young and has time to improve his defensive game. Its going to be a process, but the offensive side of his game is just too good and electrifying to give up too quickly. Im not a believer in swapping position from D to F or the reserve at that stage of their development and something that rarely works out. Kandré Miller made the transition at 15 yrs old and it worked for him, but 19? Seems too late IMO.

With Lane, the defensive side of his game will likely always be a process through his carreer, but like I said, if he can improve enough to become at least potent at defending, then at worst you have there a 3rd pairing guy who can quarterback your top PP unit. Not bad for a late 2nd.

I never understood why there wasn’t more player switching position in hockey, you see it in Baseball and football all the time and those position are a lot more specific and different… It clear that some hockey player have very specific skill set or weakness, in jr they can play any position it won’t matter but at the pro level they should play positions where the can exploit the strength and hide there weaknesses. Going from D to W should be the easiest transition. Any player that switch likely won’t be a all star but they could have a NHL career. If Hutson can’t cut it on D he is smart enough player that he should be able to play wing… I think a guy like Beaulieu could of had a better career on the wing than he did on D, great skater going forward good shoot and willing to play physical but limit position awareness and not great pivoting or skating backward not reason he couldn’t have made it as a bottom 6… You see good offensive player become defensive specialist or grinder to make it in the NHL can’t see why someone couldn’t transition from D to Fw.

 

[CHwest]

OK you know better that Hockey db and Elite Prospects. Elite has him at 198 lbs, so he gained almost 40 pounds after entering the league??? I guess you were there in 1984 the weigh him. What can I say...

I watched him being brought in from the back when the Canadiens drafted him. I remember thinking that's a lot of hoopla for a skinny, skinny kid. I don't believe he ever got up to 198, I don't think he was close to that. He was thin, really thin.

 

[SlafySZN]

Lane is day-to-day seems like it isn’t something serious.

 

[Dick Duff]

OK you know better that Hockey db and Elite Prospects. Elite has him at 198 lbs, so he gained almost 40 pounds after entering the league??? I guess you were there in 1984 the weigh him. What can I say...

larek said:
"When svoboda first came up he was 165 pounds soaking wet - I don't think he was ever 190 pounds not when he was playing."

I agree with larek's memory. To me, remembering back, Svoboda at 18 had the upper body of a 12-year-old. I recall how slight he looked when he first suited-up for the Habs, tucking the back of his jersey into his pants made him look even smaller. Then that hunched-over skating style he had. He really stood out from the other players on the ice.

 

[jfm133]

Svoboda was thin, yes, but nowhere as small as Hutson is right now.

 

[CanadienShark]

I thought smaller players learned early on to protect themselves and that because of that they didn’t get hurt? Something Dach never learned and that’s what makes him injury prone.

Dach was small growing up and went through a massive growth spurt around his draft year.

 

[LesCanadiens]

larek said:
"When svoboda first came up he was 165 pounds soaking wet - I don't think he was ever 190 pounds not when he was playing."

I agree with larek's memory. To me, remembering back, Svoboda at 18 had the upper body of a 12-year-old. I recall how slight he looked when he first suited-up for the Habs, tucking the back of his jersey into his pants made him look even smaller. Then that hunched-over skating style he had. He really stood out from the other players on the ice.

100%. I remember that draft and Svoboda's career very well. Robinson was his designated bodyguard, lol. Svoboda was a total waif entering the NHL. His major advantage over Hutson, and what I think is a bigger issue for Hutson, is that he was a beautiful skater in both directions.

Hutson really is a shitshow skating backwards. That, not his size, will be his biggest deficiency IMO. I think he handles himself OK physically. He IS very competitive, it seems. So I have no doubts he's working hard on improving his back-skating. Having said that, I think he'd make a fantastic forward who plays the point on the PP. Since he's tried to adapt his checking abilities skating forward to make up for his poor back skating, he'd likely also be a good back-checker as a forward.

 

[Wateredgarden]

I hope he isn't injured for long, stats watching him was a treat last year. At least we got Roy in the AHL to stats watch.

 

[Habs10Habs]

The macho man would agree

Great, now everytime I read one of @Mrb1p posts. I'm going to hear the Macho Man's voice lol

 

[CHwest]

100%. I remember that draft and Svoboda's career very well. Robinson was his designated bodyguard, lol. Svoboda was a total waif entering the NHL. His major advantage over Hutson, and what I think is a bigger issue for Hutson, is that he was a beautiful skater in both directions.

Hutson really is a shitshow skating backwards. That, not his size, will be his biggest deficiency IMO. I think he handles himself OK physically. He IS very competitive, it seems. So I have no doubts he's working hard on improving his back-skating. Having said that, I think he'd make a fantastic forward who plays the point on the PP. Since he's tried to adapt his checking abilities skating forward to make up for his poor back skating, he'd likely also be a good back-checker as a forward.

IF his skating holds him back, and I did say IF, I think he could slide into a dangerous forward quite easily.

 

[LesCanadiens]

IF his skating holds him back, and I did say IF, I think he could slide into a dangerous forward quite easily.

Denis Savard-Lite

 

[Nedved]

I thought smaller players learned early on to protect themselves and that because of that they didn’t get hurt? Something Dach never learned and that’s what makes him injury prone.

I learned to protect myself by quitting hockey after my 2nd concussion in major bantam.

 

[Mrb1p]

Great, now everytime I read one of @Mrb1p posts. I'm going to hear the Macho Man's voice lol

The Macho Man Mrb1p intercontinental best HF poster for a thousand years.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Already an injury record not looking good folks.

 

[cphabs]

I never understood why there wasn’t more player switching position in hockey, you see it in Baseball and football all the time and those position are a lot more specific and different… It clear that some hockey player have very specific skill set or weakness, in jr they can play any position it won’t matter but at the pro level they should play positions where the can exploit the strength and hide there weaknesses. Going from D to W should be the easiest transition. Any player that switch likely won’t be an all star but they could have a NHL career. If Hutson can’t cut it on D he is smart enough player that he should be able to play wing… I think a guy like Beaulieu could of had a better career on the wing than he did on D, great skater going forward good shoot and willing to play physical but limit position awareness and not great pivoting or skating backward not reason he couldn’t have made it as a bottom 6… You see good offensive player become defensive specialist or grinder to make it in the NHL can’t see why someone couldn’t transition from D to Fw.

Football and baseball are static sports.