Player Discussion Lane Hutson Part 2

[jaffy27]

I was thinking that his numbers might be the eye-opener and tilt the balance toward a top 10 in a weak draft.

Also, you’d think some teams might have learned something from having overlooked Caufield.

Thank god they haven’t lol

Any smallish players with insane talent that may get overlooked in June because they not 6’3??

 

[Wateredgarden]

What if I told you it was a very large trophy?

We need pictures of past players holding it.

 

[Frank Drebin]

We need pictures of past players holding it.

We need to see a picture of the trophy beside a standard sized object, like a watermelon

 

[Belial]

We need pictures of past players holding it.

Wrong forum brahhh

 

[DinosaurBones]

Can we get a list of all time best seasons by habs prospects?
(while habs property)

D- Lane Hutson - D1 season - GP: 36, G: 14, A: 33, PTS: 47
F- Cole Caufield - D2 season - GP: 31, G: 30, A: 22, PTS: 52
F- Sean Farrell - D2 season - GP: 33, G: 20, A: 32, PTS: 52
G- Cayden Primeau - D2 season - .933sv%, 2.09 GAA, 25-10-1
G- Jakub Dobes - D2 season - .934sv%, 2.26GAA, 21-12-2
F- Jake Evans - D4 season - GP: 40, G: 13, A: 33, PTS: 46
F- Danny Kristo - D5 season - GP: 40, G: 26, A: 26, PTS: 52
F- Max Pacioretty - D1 season - GP: 37, G: 15, A: 24, PTS: 39

The boys recently that come to mind ^

 

[Galchenyuk15]

Wow! This kid is simply unreal! He doesn't stop to pull his magic and even put a extra gear on the last moment of the season! This guy is all over the ice when he has the puck on his stick and a eternal chaos for the opponent; he look like "Jaws" waiting for his next target with his mobility and his effectiveness with the puck. I can't describe how valuable he can be when you trail on the score or you need a goal.

Creative for a defenseman like we rarely see, Hughes is the last who came to my mind. He play the game a la McDavid or a la Kaprizov but for a defenseman. I don't know how he doesn't play forward and who put him at defense at first but this guy who has made that decision is a genius and deserve the next 3 Prix Nobel! lol

A fairy tales year with all the achievements you can name it or close for Hutson; only the WJC where he doesn't shine but wait for next year when he will have the big spot! AMAZING! If we didn't have this guy who would be ready to kill to have it, try to appreciate it! We didn't pick the good guy often but we can enjoy when we do it and it's seem the case for Hutson!

PS : The guy who talk about Hutson at the draft table need to be promote ASAP!

#Lane4Hobey

 

[DailyKaizen]

Wrong forum brahhh

 

[JianYang]

Can we get a list of all time best seasons by habs prospects?
(while habs property)

D- Lane Hutson - D1 season - GP: 36, G: 14, A: 33, PTS: 47
F- Cole Caufield - D2 season - GP: 31, G: 30, A: 22, PTS: 52
F- Sean Farrell - D2 season - GP: 33, G: 20, A: 32, PTS: 52
G- Cayden Primeau - D2 season - .933sv%, 2.09 GAA, 25-10-1
G- Jakub Dobes - D2 season - .934sv%, 2.26GAA, 21-12-2
F- Jake Evans - D4 season - GP: 40, G: 13, A: 33, PTS: 46
F- Danny Kristo - D5 season - GP: 40, G: 26, A: 26, PTS: 52
F- Max Pacioretty - D1 season - GP: 37, G: 15, A: 24, PTS: 39

The boys recently that come to mind ^

Looks like we are limiting to NCAA..... I'm gonna go way back

John leclair had 116 points in his 92 game college career.... He only played 10 games in d3 but tallied 16 points.

Craig Conroy 65 points in 34 games in d4..... 164 points in 140 career college games.

 

[Galchenyuk15]

Hutson may not have the strongest shot, but, not unlike his playmaking ability, he is able to fond lanes to get the puck on net and that is often much better because it creates bounces and rebound opportunities rather than kill offensive plays if the snapshot rifles past the net, ricochets off the boards and hightails it back to your own end...

Subban, for example, IMO, was more efficient during the Spring of Halak, playing alongside Hal Gill and using wrist shots to get the puck on net, as he was when he won his Norris trophy, more efficient than when he became the howitzer, telegraphed wind-up, Subbanator!

Like some offensive dman we have before like Brisebois or Markov, he will always put the puck on the net for a reason without always trying to score but looking for a rebound, a deflection or to create something; he never "burn" the puck! I thought the same about Subban, heavier doesn't mean better and it's more effective and least predictable when you pick your moment instead to always try to broke the net with a howitzer!

 

[JianYang]

Like some offensive dman we have before like Brisebois or Markov, he will always put the puck on the net for a reason without always trying to score but looking for a rebound, a deflection or to create something; he never "burn" the puck! I thought the same about Subban, heavier doesn't mean better and it's more effective and least predictable when you pick your moment instead to always try to broke the net with a howitzer!

It's the new age of dman. They are not looking for the huge clapper. They are looking for lanes to get the puck at the net, and they will move laterally at the blueline to look for it.

My top 5 clappers from the Blueline in a habs uniform over the last 20 years.

1. Souray
2. Weber
3. Streit
4. Subban
5. Bergeron

It's quite a list now that I look at it.

 

[Galchenyuk15]

It's the new age of dman. They are not looking for the huge clapper. They are looking for lanes to get the puck at the net, and they will move laterally at the blueline to look for it.

My top 5 clappers from the Blueline in a habs uniform over the last 20 years.

1. Souray
2. Weber
3. Streit
4. Subban
5. Bergeron

It's quite a list now that I look at it.

HM : Mathieu Schneider

 

[Galchenyuk15]

We are not alone on the bandwagon of Hutson ...

 

[JianYang]

HM : Mathieu Schneider

He crossed my mind, and he revitalized the PP for the brief time he was here. I just couldn't put him on because of the small sample size.

Wisniewski was another one who is on my HM.

 

[Galchenyuk15]

He crossed my mind, and he revitalized the PP for the brief time he was here. I just couldn't put him on because of the small sample size.

Wisniewski was another one who is on my HM.

I missed the part you talk about 20 years ... I got a better impression from his first stint in Montréal, close to 30 years ago, than is second one, more recently.

It's sad for "Wizz" because of a couple of injury he never really be able to make a name for himself here; he would be a fan favourite with the way he play the game if he has stay healthy and/or much longer!

 

[DinosaurBones]

Looks like we are limiting to NCAA..... I'm gonna go way back

John leclair had 116 points in his 92 game college career.... He only played 10 games in d3 but tallied 16 points.

Craig Conroy 65 points in 34 games in d4..... 164 points in 140 career college games.

Yes was going for NCAA guess I didnt specify. Leclair is a good one. D4 was nasty. All 4 years PPG too.
Conroy's D4 also silly.

Major point was, what Hutson is doing - as a D - is next level. And you have to go back pretty far to find some nice seasons aside from Caufield, and what Farrell is doing this year. Exciting times, and good to see some NCAA draft picks getting us excited.
With Caufield and Harris looking good early out of their College runs, Hutson, Farrell on the way. Even Pitlick's shown some skill as of late (not just that one goal), and I've liked what Dobes has done aswell.
Wouldnt be surprised to see another college coming in with one of our top 2 picks this year either.

As un-fun it is to be a Habs fan right now, its actually pretty fun thinking about what will be/watching these young studs we have

It's the new age of dman. They are not looking for the huge clapper. They are looking for lanes to get the puck at the net, and they will move laterally at the blueline to look for it.

My top 5 clappers from the Blueline in a habs uniform over the last 20 years.

1. Souray
2. Weber
3. Streit
4. Subban
5. Bergeron

It's quite a list now that I look at it.

Plus they have a huge clapper in Mailloux. No need

 

[MadMslm]

Still looks like 5’9

 

[JianYang]

I missed the part you talk about 20 years ... I got a better impression from his first stint in Montréal, close to 30 years ago, than is second one, more recently.

It's sad for "Wizz" because of a couple of injury he never really be able to make a name for himself here; he would be a fan favourite with the way he play the game if he has stay healthy and/or much longer!

Yeah true. I'm also old enough to remember Schneider the first time around. He's always had good offensive instincts and a pretty good slapshot from the point.

Also agreed on Wisniewski. He had offense to his game, and he had an underrated edge to his game. He certainly had some fan favourite aspects.

But wiz knew that he was only here because Markov got hurt. On that point, wiz helped revitalize the PP after they lost their QB in Markov, and helped the team establish the 7th best PP in the league.

I remember him going in and out of the dressing room in game 7 against Boston that year. Story of his career, I suppose.

 

[Andy]

question: are there any cases where a prospect had an exceptional season like Hutson and completely busted at the nhl level? Just trying to gauge the odds of success.

 

[Habs Halifax]

question: are there any cases where a prospect had an exceptional season like Hutson and completely busted at the nhl level? Just trying to gauge the odds of success.

Borgstrom comes to mind. 1.23 pts/game over 77 NCAA games.

However, I'm comfortable saying Hutson can be something in the middle of Ghost and Fox. I would say Ghostisbehere or DeAngelo is his base.

 

[hardcorehabs]

If size does limit him, could he try to convert to a winger? He’s got the talent that’s no doubt

 

[morhilane]

question: are there any cases where a prospect had an exceptional season like Hutson and completely busted at the nhl level? Just trying to gauge the odds of success.

Few dmen manage to even do PPG in the NCAA, even less in their freshman years. There are very few cases of them busting. But it doesn't mean the ones who aren't busting end-up top pair dmen either.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

question: are there any cases where a prospect had an exceptional season like Hutson and completely busted at the nhl level? Just trying to gauge the odds of success.

Only two other D won best freshman in the NCAA the last 16 years.

Joey Laleggia - had 38 points in 43 games and never played in the NHL.
Scott Perunovich - had 36 points in 42 games, showed potential in the AHL, however injuries have impacted him.

However, Hutson demolished their seasons so I don't think they are great comparisons.

 

[Tyson]

Only two other D won best freshman in the NCAA the last 16 years.

Joey Laleggia - had 38 points in 43 games and never played in the NHL.
Scott Perunovich - had 36 points in 42 games, showed potential in the AHL, however injuries have impacted him.

However, Hutson demolished their seasons so I don't think they are great comparisons.

It puts everything in the right context though. He isn't assured of stardom just yet. Had he been 6'0 tall during the draft I am convinced he would have gone top 5 or higher.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

It's the new age of dman. They are not looking for the huge clapper. They are looking for lanes to get the puck at the net, and they will move laterally at the blueline to look for it.

My top 5 clappers from the Blueline in a habs uniform over the last 20 years.

1. Souray
2. Weber
3. Streit
4. Subban
5. Bergeron

It's quite a list now that I look at it.

Going back even further there was Richer who played the point on the PP, Malakhov, Schneider, Chelios, Robinson, Lapointe, Savard and the unforgettable, the terrifying for teammates and opposing goalies alike.........Gaston Gingras!

 

[Galchenyuk15]

Borgstrom comes to mind. 1.23 pts/game over 77 NCAA games.

However, I'm comfortable saying Hutson can be something in the middle of Ghost and Fox. I would say Ghostisbehere or DeAngelo is his base.

Sometimes it's hard to know what players benefit from the other one and who is the one make people around him better. At this level, a good player has often the capacity to make his linemates look good, productive, put him in a good mental condition and it's hard to know who is really the motor.

In the case of Borgstrom, without being more productive than Borgstrom or Dylan Gambrell, Troy Terry seem to be that guy who make the magic work and without him they are not the same kind of offensive players.

I think like your for the Hutson floor in the worst case something like Ghost, Barrie, DeAngelo, Shattenkirk in his first years and I'm ready to bet my house on that.

For his ceiling, I don't know how good he can be but in quite some time he will stop to be compare to other one because he will make a name for himself with the way he plays the game only Quinn Hughes plays a similar kind of game! Maybe the next Paul Coffey or the next Phil Housley of his generation; an offensive threat you can only hope to slow down because you can't stop it!