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LAK 5 : EDM 2 - King me!

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Am I the only one that thinks fabric letters are way overrated? Justin Williams was regarded as one of the biggest leaders on the ice and he never wore an A or C.

Doughty is absolutely one of the top leaders on this team. He elevates his game consistently, is the leader of the defense, is constantly vocal on the ice, and also happens to be the best player on the team.
 
Reclamation Project said:
Am I the only one that thinks fabric letters are way overrated? Justin Williams was regarded as one of the biggest leaders on the ice and he never wore an A or C.

Doughty is absolutely one of the top leaders on this team. He elevates his game consistently, is the leader of the defense, is constantly vocal on the ice, and also happens to be the best player on the team.
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Totally with you. Mitchell, Regehr, Scuderi, Richards (vintage 2012), Williams, Stoll were all key players who never wore letters but were regarded as leaders… The fact Mitchell is C in Florida says a lot about the culture in the Kings room.
 
I remember hearing someone, maybe it was Doughty (now that I think about it, it may have been Jack Johnson because he was the only younger guy on the roster that lasted a few years after the Scuderi signing), talk about how instrumental Scuderi was from day one in catalyzing the defense.
 
Absolutely, anyone can be a leader, with or without the letter. I just thought it was kind of cool, like acknowledgment by the brass that he's taking the next step to being a leader.
 
Probably should throw a shout out to Dwight King, loving him back as the left wing on the 3rd line in the bottom six!
 
Ollie Weeks said:
Probably should throw a shout out to Dwight King, loving him back as the left wing on the 3rd line in the bottom six!
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What are you talking about, he was on a scoring line yesterday with Dustin Brown (3G, 8A) and Trevor Lewis (3G, 3A), why are you commenting about him being a 3rd line player?

He was on a scoring line playing one of the worst teams in the league, I actually think only 2 points was very disappointing, plus he didn't fight, hit or give anyone a solid face wash.
 
Never thought I'd utter the phrase, "Thank god Dwight King is back."

Awesome win for the Kings. When was the last time the Kings didn't just scrape by in the regular season?
 
Uh oh. Someone says we are giving Dwight King too much love. Should I change my avatar? Is it too late to get a refund on this:

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Herby said:
What are you talking about, he was on a scoring line yesterday with Dustin Brown (3G, 8A) and Trevor Lewis (3G, 3A), why are you commenting about him being a 3rd line player?

He was on a scoring line playing one of the worst teams in the league, I actually think only 2 points was very disappointing, plus he didn't fight, hit or give anyone a solid face wash.
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Not impressed. King should have 20 goals by now.
 
Herby said:
4 of the Top 6 are guys hated on the Kings board.

To bad we don't have any bad blood with Dallas yet.
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4? I thought we hated them all? Oh wait Kinger... I mean 5 of 6...

No bad blood with Dallas? Why don't you hate Dallas? :help:

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Reclamation Project said:
Am I the only one that thinks fabric letters are way overrated? Justin Williams was regarded as one of the biggest leaders on the ice and he never wore an A or C.

Doughty is absolutely one of the top leaders on this team. He elevates his game consistently, is the leader of the defense, is constantly vocal on the ice, and also happens to be the best player on the team.
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I agree that leaders come in all forms. I just think it's meaningful because management recognizes a player enough to give him a letter.

You also have to have a letter to have a higher degree of interaction with the officials. Given Doughty's tantrums in the past, it is meaningful to be afforded that opportunity.

Now, I definitely agree that a letter doesn't make you a leader, nor does lacking a letter mean you lack leadership.
 
King'sPawn said:
I agree that leaders come in all forms. I just think it's meaningful because management recognizes a player enough to give him a letter.

You also have to have a letter to have a higher degree of interaction with the officials. Given Doughty's tantrums in the past, it is meaningful to be afforded that opportunity.

Now, I definitely agree that a letter doesn't make you a leader, nor does lacking a letter mean you lack leadership.
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Brad Doty said:
You don't suppose it was anything to do with it being a back-to-back? Fresh legs and all. Plus the Brown-Lewis-King night was unstoppable, it would have been stupid to NOT play them more minutes no matter who the opponent was. You play well, you get rewarded.

No one is saying King is our saviour, just happy to get a guy back who clicks and has chemistry with the roster. His presence last night was obviously great. Nothing wrong with being happy for a guy who played a great game.



It stems from one poster in particular who believes, due to ice time in small sample sizes, King is a top-sixer on this team and we suck because of that. And it's not an opinion worth arguing against because despite about 100 posts of facts the mind was not being changed.
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First off to all I'm happy to see the reaction and hate from all my fellow king fans. What a over reaction to my comments. I funny i didn't think it was possible to unit so many king fans in one opinion. So i applauded that. Now i want to dispell this rumour i hate King I don't i just don't want to see him play to many mins I think King is best served with between 12-13 mins.

Mr Doty if you read all my post you would have seen me state in one of them I said it was probably a good idea to rest Pearson and gaborik a little with that line playing well. I also have said Mr King played well in several of my posts and i will restate it again He had a good game. My issues comes from people saying he sparked the 3rd line when said line didn't play 3rd line mins. The way Sutter distributed mins can have so called 2nd line players getting 3rd line mins aka Pearson This happens a lot more then people think. This extra mins makes it a lot more likely your offensive stats will go up.

Next to you no one is calling him a saviour I have seen several people openingly suggest he is the answer to our bottom six scoring woes. If hes playing top 6 mins how is he doing that? Its simply not true. It makes him seem better then he is. I have no issues with people being happy hes back. I have issues with people saying hes playing in the bottom 6 when hes not. I also think people are overstating it. It was against edmonton one of the worse nhl teams in the league. He does something like this against a playoff fine sing his praises Hell I'll beat you to it however im not holding my breath.


now the other comment that was obviously about me. Now if your going to talk about me use my name I can defend my opinion as well as anyone in here. Due to small sample sizes what are you talking about fact dwight king play 81 games last year and 51 one of them were him playing over 14 mins and another 3 over 13.30 mins. This leaves 27 games of his 81 games or 33.3 percent of his games playing bottom 6 mins. That is not a small sample size at all. Also i never once said we suck because of King again you over state things to paint me in a negative light Next this 100s of posts line is again overstating things Go back to that thread less then 70 with half mine and half others. People like to call dwight king bottom 6 but last year and so far this year hes plays top 6 mins Facts are facts.
 
Reclamation Project said:
Am I the only one that thinks fabric letters are way overrated? Justin Williams was regarded as one of the biggest leaders on the ice and he never wore an A or C.

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No. I have always been amazed at the time that some will spend on discussing who wears the A or the C.

I think this may be the first time I've posted about it. - yawn -
 
KingCanadain1976 said:
I also have said Mr King played well in several of my posts and i will restate it again He had a good game. My issues comes from people saying he sparked the 3rd line when said line didn't play 3rd line mins. The way Sutter distributed mins can have so called 2nd line players getting 3rd line mins aka Pearson This happens a lot more then people think. This extra mins makes it a lot more likely your offensive stats will go up.
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I dont see what the problem with this is. everyone on that line got a goal, whats the sense in complaining if they got 2nd or 3rd line minutes? it was the 2nd game of a back to back, Id wait a few games before you critique Sutter for giving him "2nd line minutes". he was obviously resting some of the players that logged heavy minuted the night before and King was literally playing his first game of this season
 
KingCanadain1976 said:
First off to all I'm happy to see the reaction and hate from all my fellow king fans. What a over reaction to my comments. I funny i didn't think it was possible to unit so many king fans in one opinion. So i applauded that. Now i want to dispell this rumour i hate King I don't i just don't want to see him play to many mins I think King is best served with between 12-13 mins.

Mr Doty if you read all my post you would have seen me state in one of them I said it was probably a good idea to rest Pearson and gaborik a little with that line playing well. I also have said Mr King played well in several of my posts and i will restate it again He had a good game. My issues comes from people saying he sparked the 3rd line when said line didn't play 3rd line mins. The way Sutter distributed mins can have so called 2nd line players getting 3rd line mins aka Pearson This happens a lot more then people think. This extra mins makes it a lot more likely your offensive stats will go up.

Next to you no one is calling him a saviour I have seen several people openingly suggest he is the answer to our bottom six scoring woes. If hes playing top 6 mins how is he doing that? Its simply not true. It makes him seem better then he is. I have no issues with people being happy hes back. I have issues with people saying hes playing in the bottom 6 when hes not. I also think people are overstating it. It was against edmonton one of the worse nhl teams in the league. He does something like this against a playoff fine sing his praises Hell I'll beat you to it however im not holding my breath.


now the other comment that was obviously about me. Now if your going to talk about me use my name I can defend my opinion as well as anyone in here. Due to small sample sizes what are you talking about fact dwight king play 81 games last year and 51 one of them were him playing over 14 mins and another 3 over 13.30 mins. This leaves 27 games of his 81 games or 33.3 percent of his games playing bottom 6 mins. That is not a small sample size at all. Also i never once said we suck because of King again you over state things to paint me in a negative light Next this 100s of posts line is again overstating things Go back to that thread less then 70 with half mine and half others. People like to call dwight king bottom 6 but last year and so far this year hes plays top 6 mins Facts are facts.
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Seems you forgot Lucic wasn't on the kings yet and Pearson was out a very long time. What other option did they have last year than to give King more minutes? Please don't say Clifford....

How's that for your facts.
 
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