LAK 3 - EDM 3 - Kings win!

[KingsFan7824]

Gary "I am a real Hollywood American" Bettman. That's why Kings fans don't boo him.

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1585577&highlight=kings+wings+puck+netting

It happens. People then get upset. Maybe you win a Cup. Then time passes. Nobody will ever forget though. Where were you when a goal was stolen from McDavid?

If Andreoff can't win a faceoff, especially his 16.7% in the defensive zone, then he just can't be a center. You don't ask your 4th line center to do much, but one thing he needs to do is that.

Is it me or do too many games against the Oilers in Edmonton come down to the last few seconds in the game around Quick? Speaking of Quick, I thought he had one of those games where he was a little all over the place. Too much movement. He's always on that edge between athlete and goalie.

 

[lumbergh]

Its not really that easy. What kind of "transmitter" would you prefer, and where would you locate it to not change the way a puck handles but get a fair read on the pucks angle, exactly position, ect..? What tolerance on your readings is acceptable?

If you can't answer, you have little room to criticize.

A regulation puck is 3 inches in diameter. You can embed a small chip in the center of the puck so that it doesn't affect the motion of the puck. All you want to know is if the center of the puck goes 1.51 inches beyond the goal line, as it would be impossible for the entire puck to not have crossed the line. You don't have to know the orientation, the velocity or anything like that. All this would tell you is that it definitely crossed the line.

For cases like this where the puck is not visible from the officials' or cameras' angles, this is a simple fix.

Sorry if I didn't stay up until 2AM Eastern time to answer your question.

 

[lumbergh]

Pretty much. The entire surface area of the puck would have to be a transmitter. Varying puck angles would make it very difficult for a single chip in the center of the puck to definitely transmit that the entire puck was over the line. Tennis balls and soccer balls... are balls... which are spheres. Pucks are not spheres.

In tennis they can track the flight of a 100 mph object and calculate its trajectory to determine if it nicked a line. They're doing the same in baseball to help umpires get better at calling balls and strikes.

I'm not saying that hockey is the same as tennis or baseball, but I am saying that there's technology out there that would help. It's 2015. The design of the hockey puck has not been changed in about a century. Hell there are probably ways to embed an accelerometer inside the puck. It's not like it takes up a bunch of room in your smartphone.

 

[onlyalad]

This goes so far beyond hockey. It's blatant prejudice. The NHL hates Canada.

Now that half the players are not Canadian, the league can get away with cheating them out of wins (err ties)

Now the main board is claiming that the whole angle of viewing the puck over the line is irrelevant because the puck was slidinding flat along the ice when it crossed the line.
Kings are going to win the cup. The fix is in

 

[lumbergh]

The boys need to make a ritual of boarding Kopi pre-game. There's a Jeykll/Hyde story here that's just waiting to unfold.

Hulkitar?

I kinda liked watching Kopitar go out of his way to hit Hall on that late penalty kill. Imagine the destruction he would leave on the ice if he did that all game.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

This goes so far beyond hockey. It's blatant prejudice. The NHL hates Canada.

The NHL hates Canada? No, the NHL hates hockey.

 

[cali101]

In tennis they can track the flight of a 100 mph object and calculate its trajectory to determine if it nicked a line. They're doing the same in baseball to help umpires get better at calling balls and strikes.

yep that's true. hawkeye in tennis works well. players can challenge the umps too. something like that could work well for dicey offside calls and of course goals. i wonder if the ice could be an issue though. in tennis they don't have hawkeye for clay i don't think.

Andreoff 1 for 9 on the draw. I don't know if he's really meant to play center.

think he was 2 for 11 last game.

 

[Ron*]

Gary "I am a real Hollywood American" Bettman. That's why Kings fans don't boo him.

Kings fans don't boo Bettman because the only two times he's addressed the Staples crowd he handed the Cup to Brown each time. Home crowds don't boo the commissioner when they are getting the Cup from him. Moronic fans of other teams can't grasp this...the last time that had happened was in Anaheim (five and seven years previously), and Anaheim fans didn't boo him either. And yes, Chicago fans didn't boo him either this past June.

It happens. People then get upset. Maybe you win a Cup. Then time passes. Nobody will ever forget though. Where were you when a goal was stolen from McDavid?

No one gives a flying **** about game 9 of an 82-game season.

 

[Ron*]

Now that half the players are not Canadian, the league can get away with cheating them out of wins (err ties)

Now the main board is claiming that the whole angle of viewing the puck over the line is irrelevant because the puck was slidinding flat along the ice when it crossed the line.
Kings are going to win the cup. The fix is in

Just don't tell them you love the taste of their salty, jealous tears. Cost me 5 points and a thread ban.

 

[TonySCV]

The Oilers need a lesson in parallax angles. Fortunately John Shannon is here to teach everyone.

 

[KopitarFAN]

No one gives a flying **** about game 9 of an 82-game season.

You can bet Oiler fans will remember this if they somehow miss the the playoffs by 1 point. I think they are better, but won't come that close.

 

[YP44]

The Oilers need a lesson in parallax angles. Fortunately John Shannon is here to teach everyone.

This..There is no clear angle that the puck was in.

I do believe that it is likely the puck crossed while in Quick's glove..however there it needs to be seen on video evidence. If the situation was reversed I would be pissed, but would get.
Bottom line there was no way the ref or the league could have made that a goal.

 

[YP44]

Is it just me or does it seem like Drew goes out of his way to hit Hall every time they meet?

 

[Ron*]

You can bet Oiler fans will remember this if they somehow miss the the playoffs by 1 point. I think they are better, but won't come that close.

Exactly. Instead of missing the playoffs by 25 points, they will miss by 26.

Next.

 

[bouncesonly]

A regulation puck is 3 inches in diameter. You can embed a small chip in the center of the puck so that it doesn't affect the motion of the puck. All you want to know is if the center of the puck goes 1.51 inches beyond the goal line, as it would be impossible for the entire puck to not have crossed the line. You don't have to know the orientation, the velocity or anything like that. All this would tell you is that it definitely crossed the line.

For cases like this where the puck is not visible from the officials' or cameras' angles, this is a simple fix.

Sorry if I didn't stay up until 2AM Eastern time to answer your question.

Seems fine if pucks only crossed the line on the same plane as the surface of the ice, ie not tumbling.

 

[Captain Mittens*]

Seems fine if pucks only crossed the line on the same plane as the surface of the ice, ie not tumbling.

 

[YP44]

Exactly. Instead of missing the playoffs by 25 points, they will miss by 26.

Next.

it's funny fans of a team that has won 4 draft lotteries recently claiming another team is getting league favoritism.

hmmmm...maybe the league is helping Edmonton. This will increase their draft odds as they will now has less points.

 

[robitaillefan]

I was at the game. Boring crowd. Doughty was chirping the fans when the goal was under review. It was priceless, he was confident the call would stand and when it did he grabbed his nuts with his glove while taunting the fans. Pretty funny.

 

[Captain Mittens*]

 

[Ron*]

I was at the game. Boring crowd. Doughty was chirping the fans when the goal was under review. It was priceless, he was confident the call would stand and when it did he grabbed his nuts with his glove while taunting the fans. Pretty funny.

Damn but a video of that would be awesome lol

 

[Evilsports]

I was at the game. Boring crowd. Doughty was chirping the fans when the goal was under review. It was priceless, he was confident the call would stand and when it did he grabbed his nuts with his glove while taunting the fans. Pretty funny.

I hate that he doesn't play for the team that I cheer for!

 

[Scottkmlps]

Lol. 32 pages? Really, 32 pages on an inconclusive goal?

 

[Quattro]

Lol. 32 pages? Really, 32 pages on an inconclusive goal?

Because Canada

 

[YP44]

Because Canada

you realize it was Canadian you were responding to right?

 

[lumbergh]

Seems fine if pucks only crossed the line on the same plane as the surface of the ice, ie not tumbling.

Yes you're right. I forgot that Pythagoras is a dick. If the center of the puck is 1.59 inches past the goal line, then the entire puck must be past the goal line. All the same, totally doable.