LAK 3 - EDM 3 - Kings win!

[Captain Mittens*]

Rolled into the office this beautiful Monday morning like

 

[Buddy The Elf]

That doesn't make it impossible. Not even that hard. Are there any decent engineers on this board? Put three detectors in the ice under the goal that can determine the distance between the detector and the center of the puck. Triangulate the location of the puck in space and compare it to the goal plane. Geometry.

All I'm saying is that it's a solvable problem. I'm not an engineer, but I'm sure there are decent engineers that could solve this problem without that much effort. It's 2015. We landed men on the moon 45 years ago. This should be totally doable.

 

[tsanuri]

That doesn't make it impossible. Not even that hard. Are there any decent engineers on this board? Put three detectors in the ice under the goal that can determine the distance between the detector and the center of the puck. Triangulate the location of the puck in space and compare it to the goal plane. Geometry.

All I'm saying is that it's a solvable problem. I'm not an engineer, but I'm sure there are decent engineers that could solve this problem without that much effort. It's 2015. We landed men on the moon 45 years ago. This should be totally doable.

You don't think the league has or is trying many different things?
But what about what happens with the ice. It both expands and contracts. That can move the sensors and create even more problems in the end. And that is just one small but easily listed variable.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Don't forget the solution should be practical and easy to repair. aka, not cost the league much money. These issues don't occur often enough to justify the cost. It's the truth people keep dancing around.

Look at the NFL, the richest sport in America and they still have controversial/bad calls every season and the stakes are higher in every game for that league.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

THis is such a mountain out of a molehill situation. If this would have happened to anyone but McDavid and to a team like Dallas it would just get laughed off like "suck it up" rather than "fix everything, your tech sucks NHL."

I'm going to bookmark this **** for when the Oilers get the benefit of the doubt later this season.

 

[Little Psycho]

Gotta admit the Kings are always in situations like this. Wont ever forget the Detroit game or Columbus "coulombs" game lol

 

[Reclamation Project]

"How dare the Kings and NHL rob a budding superstar like McDavid a goal!"

Give me a ****ing break.

This is probably the most newsworthy thing the Oilers will be involved in until the lottery, though.

 

[onlyalad]

League doesn't want to put chips in the pucks. It would raise the cost per puck. The league likes the pucks cheap because of the goodwill generated when players toss a puck to a kid. If the pucks were too expensive they would need to control that.

 

[tsanuri]

THis is such a mountain out of a molehill situation. If this would have happened to anyone but McDavid and to a team like Dallas it would just get laughed off like "suck it up" rather than "fix everything, your tech sucks NHL."

I'm going to bookmark this **** for when the Oilers get the benefit of the doubt later this season.

Here's how often anything like this even happens.
http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/864607?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Murphy explained that the NHL has roughly 10 cases each season where a replay deemed inconclusive falls back on the initial ruling from the referee.

So 10 times in 1230 regular season games or .081% of the games have an issue with something being inconclusive.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Here's how often anything like this even happens.
http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/864607?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

So 10 times in 1230 regular season games or .081% of the games have an issue with something being inconclusive.

That's not enough to invest a ton of money into a solution. It's well within the "margin of error" I'm sure the NHL has for officiating.

 

[tsanuri]

That's not enough to invest a ton of money into a solution. It's well within the "margin of error" I'm sure the NHL has for officiating.

I said on the main board that is getting it right more than just most of the time. Any system they came up with would likely have at least that amount of error. Since nothing is perfect.

 

[kingsholygrail]

I said on the main board that is getting it right more than just most of the time. Any system they came up with would likely have at least that amount of error. Since nothing is perfect.

Pretty much. I do personally love that Quick is involved in yet another controversial play. It's like it follows him around.

 

[ru4reals]

Oilers already have McJesus, they should be freakin happy they lost cuz they're getting Matthews this year too. Hope Oilers suck forever.

 

[YP44]

Oilers already have McJesus, they should be freakin happy they lost cuz they're getting Matthews this year too. Hope Oilers suck forever.

If I were an Oiler fan I would be as giddy as a pig in ****. The chemistry between Yakapov and McDavid will allow Eberle Hall and RNH to stay together. Once Nurse and some of their other young D develop more this team will be scary.
I hope they never get a goalie....seems like it maybe the last spot they need to solidify (assuming Talbot doesn't work out as it is too soon to tell)

 

[scryan]

Yes you're right. I forgot that Pythagoras is a dick. If the center of the puck is 1.59 inches past the goal line, then the entire puck must be past the goal line. All the same, totally doable.

Where are the sensors placed, what kind of sensor, and what sensitivity/accuracy can be expected from them?

Placed at the goal line... How is height determined? The sensors will only really be reading distance, so when your 1.59 inches away.... How do we determine what height the puck was at, and if it was 1.59 inches directly above vs on the ice 1.59inches back...

If you use sensors in the posts... You have nearly 2 feet to the puck in the middle of the goal, meaning the distance you read looses accuracy REAL quick. 2 feet over and 1.59 inches back gives a sensor reading of 24.05 inches back, meaning you need to read within 50 thousandths of an inch to do this, about the thickness of 12 human hairs.

Don't just say "its totally doable"
Explain how you would do it... Because the guys that do do it, don't seem to think its that doable, given that it isn't being done.

That doesn't make it impossible. Not even that hard. Are there any decent engineers on this board? Put three detectors in the ice under the goal that can determine the distance between the detector and the center of the puck. Triangulate the location of the puck in space and compare it to the goal plane. Geometry.

All I'm saying is that it's a solvable problem. I'm not an engineer, but I'm sure there are decent engineers that could solve this problem without that much effort. It's 2015. We landed men on the moon 45 years ago. This should be totally doable.

I have an engineering degree... I guess the "decent" part could be argued...

 

[ru4reals]

If I were an Oiler fan I would be as giddy as a pig in ****. The chemistry between Yakapov and McDavid will allow Eberle Hall and RNH to stay together. Once Nurse and some of their other young D develop more this team will be scary.
I hope they never get a goalie....seems like it maybe the last spot they need to solidify (assuming Talbot doesn't work out as it is too soon to tell)

Took the words right out of my mouth! Exactly! And they're complaining about one freakin goal when the freakin League already gift wrapped McJesus for them. GTFOH!

 

[Winger23]

Where are the sensors placed, what kind of sensor, and what sensitivity/accuracy can be expected from them?

Placed at the goal line... How is height determined? The sensors will only really be reading distance, so when your 1.59 inches away.... How do we determine what height the puck was at, and if it was 1.59 inches directly above vs on the ice 1.59inches back...

If you use sensors in the posts... You have nearly 2 feet to the puck in the middle of the goal, meaning the distance you read looses accuracy REAL quick. 2 feet over and 1.59 inches back gives a sensor reading of 24.05 inches back, meaning you need to read within 50 thousandths of an inch to do this, about the thickness of 12 human hairs.

Don't just say "its totally doable"
Explain how you would do it... Because the guys that do do it, don't seem to think its that doable, given that it isn't being done.

Even if doable, the main boards would still explode cause it's the kings so it would be the one case where the sensor malfunctioned bringing out all the conspiracy theories all over again.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Even if doable, the main boards would still explode cause it's the kings so it would be the one case where the sensor malfunctioned bringing out all the conspiracy theories all over again.

Still waiting for the league to do something about clocks.

 

[TheSentinel]

Even if doable, the main boards would still explode cause it's the kings so it would be the one case where the sensor malfunctioned bringing out all the conspiracy theories all over again.

sensor not sensing, battery not charged. the balance of the sensor making the puck hop over McVonderKinde

 

[scryan]

Even if doable, the main boards would still explode cause it's the kings so it would be the one case where the sensor malfunctioned bringing out all the conspiracy theories all over again.

The kings HAVE been talking a lot about power outages lately... getting their excuses ready when the sensor randomly shuts off?

 

[SLang]

We're as hated now as Vancouver used to be, with the difference being our team's won Cups. Life is good.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Kinda crazy to think--as per insider article today--that McBain flew straight into the lineup very last minute and played w/Ehrhoff without even practicing with him. They've performed very well considering.

 

[kingsfan28]

Kinda crazy to think--as per insider article today--that McBain flew straight into the lineup very last minute and played w/Ehrhoff without even practicing with him. They've performed very well considering.

They had a private plane waiting for him, just hopped on, got to SJ, then laced them up. Love having the AHL so close.

 

[tsanuri]

They had a private plane waiting for him, just hopped on, got to SJ, then laced them up. Love having the AHL so close.

Actually they had a ticket already paid for on a commercial jet by what was said.

 

[kingsfan28]

LOL that was great. It's hilarious that they're just trying to find any way to get on Doughty for that. Yeah, Drew. Win something before celebrating like that. Kid never has accomplished anything /s. The best part is they'll be worshipping the ground he walks on when he dons the Team Canada colors in the next Olympics.

What short memories they have. Who was it that skated to center ice and slid on their knees after scoring a tying goal in game 53 like they won the cup...an Oiler!